Pacquiao vs Vargas

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Originally Posted by Ron Swanson

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Originally Posted by mikeeod

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Originally Posted by Ron Swanson

I called this on the Crawford thread long ago. Manny built his name on good match ups. Why would he suddenly start taking challenging stylistic fights?

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Youre saying JMM was a hard stylistic match up for Manny??? Neither were Barrera, Morales or Cotto??? Bradley and Hatton were stylistic push overs???? Don't think I could disagree more.

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Which moves with any quickness and looks to counter a lunging fighter? It's fine if you disagree, you're simply wrong. It happens with everyone.

Those are great fighters you list. None do what Crawford does. They might ALL be better than Crawford. But it doesn't change the facts.

Koncz said straight up when asked why they didn't choose Crawford. No hemming, no hawing "the style". The facts, the direct quotes support me. And looking at these is why I could read articles about how Manny was going to fight Crawford and say it wasn't going to happen. I didn't need to wait until things happened because history showed me what would happen.

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JMM gave Manny Hell every time they fought, and manny fought him four times!!! You can say you think Crawford has the style to beat Manny, and you are likely correct. When you say Manny dodged fighters who gave him problems stylistically, you're just plain wrong. JMM had his number and Manny fought him the most.

It was Vargas for either Manny or Crawford and still think Crawford gets winner Manny when Crawford debuts at welter for name and showcase trinket. I think for a guy disputing his own commitment and retirement in a years time this is a dumb fight for Manny where he can only hope to stay warm and not be out hustled and look age in a stinker. I bet that watching Arum gnaw on over cooked ribs is as terrifying as watching him cling onto some fighters last gasp of fame.

Is it true that HBO not only dropped this fight as well as contractual rights to Pacquiao?

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Originally Posted by SlimTrae

Is it true that HBO not only dropped this fight as well as contractual rights to Pacquiao?

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Now that would be funny. :)

Hysterical, but true.... right from the shyster's mouth.
Bob Arum mentions ESPN, Turner and Showtime to possibly carry Pacquiao - Ring TV

Amazing how quick the mighty fall. The fight nobody wants without a home. HBO is in the poor house now. Manny got lucky being handed third Bradley fight on ppv, another few really needed at all. If Manny and Arum went Crawford, seriously doubt HBO would refuse to pick it up.

Man i really thought he was going to fight Crawford was looking forward to that fight i have no idea who Vargas is so i am not really hyped about it. Crawford only wanted the fight at 140 is what some people are saying that he should move up all the big fights are at 147 for him.

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Originally Posted by mikeeod

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Originally Posted by Ron Swanson

I called this on the Crawford thread long ago. Manny built his name on good match ups. Why would he suddenly start taking challenging stylistic fights?

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Youre saying JMM was a hard stylistic match up for Manny??? Neither were Barrera, Morales or Cotto??? Bradley and Hatton were stylistic push overs???? Don't think I could disagree more.

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PAC never faced a fighter with good lateral movemen until he faced Mayweather. Looking for the young undefeated athletic fighter with power and he never appeared on Pac's resume. Avoided Edwin Valero early and now Crawford.

As Floyd fans would say, "This motherfucking yellow chump, avoided Money May for years and wouldn't fight black fighters. Now he's avoiding Crawford another black fighter. Motherfucker better stay out of the fight game. Motherfucker should go back to making sushi rolls and shit."