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Ricardo Lopez in against Gonzalez, Carbajal, Sorjaturong. A fight I always wanted to see was Lopez against Too Sharp.
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John Mugabi v Matt Hilton .
Herol Graham v Chris Eubank.
Chris Eubank v Julian Jackson.
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Bruno v Ali
nice win for Bruno
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John Mugabi v Matt Hilton .
Herol Graham v Chris Eubank.
Chris Eubank v Julian Jackson.
Really like the Julian Jackson vs Eubank match up. Who do you think wins that one? Jackson probably had a little more punching power and was a little more active, in my opinion. That being said, Eubank was very clever, and more importantly, HUGE for 160, where Jackson was really a good sized 154 pounder. I think it would be great for as long as it lasted, but see Eubank scoring the stoppage win eventually.
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Spicoli- AWESOME call on Tapia vs Ham Johnson! Loved both guys, and think both were genuinely great fighters, although often underrated and overlooked due to their size. Tapia had the personality to become more famous, but Johnson was such a solid and great fighter, that it's a shame his lack of charisma held him back on the world stage. As much of a fan as I was/am of Johnny, I think Johnson would've won that one. It would've been extremely close, and a phenomenal fight, but I think Johnson was a great talent that only true fans appreciated (like Finito Lopez).
It's a tough call for sure. Real shame it never came off as seemingly all of the pieces were there and once Johnson moved up, conveniently Tapia moved up for a shot at Ayala. Johnson was brilliant and simply fought top notch opposition from beginning to end. When people speak of best speed and defense he is badly over looked. He wasn't a back foot prevent defensive guy and could sit in the pocket and feint a guy out of his shoes. He'd make you pay dearly. What he did to Arthur Johnson was just brutal!Still lean ever so slightly to Tapia in that one as Johnson did run into a few times where he would opt to bang. Both simply tremendous talents.
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Ricardo Lopez in against Gonzalez, Carbajal, Sorjaturong. A fight I always wanted to see was Lopez against Too Sharp.
I may be mistaken, but didn't Finito knock Sorjaturong out before he (Sorjaturong) moved up to beat Humberto?
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John Mugabi v Matt Hilton .
Herol Graham v Chris Eubank.
Chris Eubank v Julian Jackson.
Really like the Julian Jackson vs Eubank match up. Who do you think wins that one? Jackson probably had a little more punching power and was a little more active, in my opinion. That being said, Eubank was very clever, and more importantly, HUGE for 160, where Jackson was really a good sized 154 pounder. I think it would be great for as long as it lasted, but see Eubank scoring the stoppage win eventually.
Best chin v best puncher have to go with Eubank
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Spicoli- AWESOME call on Tapia vs Ham Johnson! Loved both guys, and think both were genuinely great fighters, although often underrated and overlooked due to their size. Tapia had the personality to become more famous, but Johnson was such a solid and great fighter, that it's a shame his lack of charisma held him back on the world stage. As much of a fan as I was/am of Johnny, I think Johnson would've won that one. It would've been extremely close, and a phenomenal fight, but I think Johnson was a great talent that only true fans appreciated (like Finito Lopez).
It's a tough call for sure. Real shame it never came off as seemingly all of the pieces were there and once Johnson moved up, conveniently Tapia moved up for a shot at Ayala. Johnson was brilliant and simply fought top notch opposition from beginning to end. When people speak of best speed and defense he is badly over looked. He wasn't a back foot prevent defensive guy and could sit in the pocket and feint a guy out of his shoes. He'd make you pay dearly. What he did to Arthur Johnson was just brutal!Still lean ever so slightly to Tapia in that one as Johnson did run into a few times where he would opt to bang. Both simply tremendous talents.
Tapia, in my opinion, was a born fighter. Some great fighters, like Lennox Lewis, are phenomenal and obviously love the sport (technical, competition aspects), but they don't ENJOY fighting. Tapia had serious skills, a RIDICULOUS engine, and absolutely LOVED being in a war. I can't think of another fighter who ever had as big a smile on their face in the middle of an absolute brawl. Wish he could've used that to fight his demons, such a horrible loss...
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Ricardo Lopez in against Gonzalez, Carbajal, Sorjaturong. A fight I always wanted to see was Lopez against Too Sharp.
I may be mistaken, but didn't Finito knock Sorjaturong out before he (Sorjaturong) moved up to beat Humberto?
Yeah he did and it was all over in 2 rounds. I still would have liked to see a rematch at 108.
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Ricardo Lopez in against Gonzalez, Carbajal, Sorjaturong. A fight I always wanted to see was Lopez against Too Sharp.
I may be mistaken, but didn't Finito knock Sorjaturong out before he (Sorjaturong) moved up to beat Humberto?
Yeah he did and it was all over in 2 rounds. I still would have liked to see a rematch at 108.
You wanted a rematch after 2 round result? What happened?
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Ricardo Lopez in against Gonzalez, Carbajal, Sorjaturong. A fight I always wanted to see was Lopez against Too Sharp.
I may be mistaken, but didn't Finito knock Sorjaturong out before he (Sorjaturong) moved up to beat Humberto?
Yeah he did and it was all over in 2 rounds. I still would have liked to see a rematch at 108.
You wanted a rematch after 2 round result? What happened?
Lopez dropped Sorjaturong once in the 1st and twice in the 2nd to end the fight with the WBC minimumweight title on the line. Sorjaturong got caught with a big right at the end of the 1st that put him down on his face. I don't think he really recovered in the minute rest. He was getting hit quite a bit and he may not have ever been able to compete with Lopez but the stoppage was premature in my opinion.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCa1aPEGLUk
Sorjaturong moved up to 108 and stopped Gonzalez in a FOTY bout in 1995 for the WBC & IBF Light Flyweight titles.
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Ricardo Lopez in against Gonzalez, Carbajal, Sorjaturong. A fight I always wanted to see was Lopez against Too Sharp.
I may be mistaken, but didn't Finito knock Sorjaturong out before he (Sorjaturong) moved up to beat Humberto?
Yeah he did and it was all over in 2 rounds. I still would have liked to see a rematch at 108.
You wanted a rematch after 2 round result? What happened?
Lopez dropped Sorjaturong once in the 1st and twice in the 2nd to end the fight with the WBC minimumweight title on the line. Sorjaturong got caught with a big right at the end of the 1st that put him down on his face. I don't think he really recovered in the minute rest. He was getting hit quite a bit and he may not have ever been able to compete with Lopez but the stoppage was premature in my opinion.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCa1aPEGLUk
Sorjaturong moved up to 108 and stopped Gonzalez in a FOTY bout in 1995 for the WBC & IBF Light Flyweight titles.
We have witnessed some wonderful fighters in the 90 's and onwards , Floyd - RJJ -JCC , however its hard to argue that Ricardo FINITO Lopez wasn't the most complete boxer.
He had Floyds counterpunching / Roys speed / he could hit with big power , fight going forward or backwards , he really was that good.
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Ricardo Lopez in against Gonzalez, Carbajal, Sorjaturong. A fight I always wanted to see was Lopez against Too Sharp.
I may be mistaken, but didn't Finito knock Sorjaturong out before he (Sorjaturong) moved up to beat Humberto?
Yeah he did and it was all over in 2 rounds. I still would have liked to see a rematch at 108.
You wanted a rematch after 2 round result? What happened?
Lopez dropped Sorjaturong once in the 1st and twice in the 2nd to end the fight with the WBC minimumweight title on the line. Sorjaturong got caught with a big right at the end of the 1st that put him down on his face. I don't think he really recovered in the minute rest. He was getting hit quite a bit and he may not have ever been able to compete with Lopez but the stoppage was premature in my opinion.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCa1aPEGLUk
Sorjaturong moved up to 108 and stopped Gonzalez in a FOTY bout in 1995 for the WBC & IBF Light Flyweight titles.
We have witnessed some wonderful fighters in the 90 's and onwards , Floyd - RJJ -JCC , however its hard to argue that Ricardo FINITO Lopez wasn't the most complete boxer.
He had Floyds counterpunching / Roys speed / he could hit with big power , fight going forward or backwards , he really was that good.
He was such a phenomenal fighter. I've never seen ANYONE control every aspect of a fight like Finito did. His punch selection was masterful, his balance was perfect, his accuracy was off the charts due to his precise punches, his footwork was flawless, his stamina was limitless, and his combinations were seamless. Everyone says JCC is the greatest Mexican boxer ever, and I understand why they feel that way (record, high profile fights...etc.), but I think that if they were the same size Finito would box circles around him and stop him late (and make it look easy). I was always a HUGE fan of Finito, but I would always wonder what would happen when/if he met his "one" fighter who had his number. Would he be able to gut it out? Reach down deep and fight in the trenches? Would be wilt? He proved his greatness by out-"toughing" his "one" in Rosendo Alvarez. What a great little fighter he was...
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Alvarez took him the the brink. It was towards the end of Lopez' career. If anyone deserves to be claiming they are TBE it should be Lopez!
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But he is too great for all that. He'll leave up to us (the fans) to decide.