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Floyd and Ward?Quote:
Originally Posted by imp
For me it would be a tie between Loma, Crawford and Mikey García just by how superior they look against anybody they have faced.
On the other hand though, why is Rigo suddenly off the list just because he lost to a bigger (and better) man?
If it was just down to being outclassed by Loma, rather than age catching up last night, how is he somehow rated below Thurman or Canelo?
Crawford has beaten tons of good fighters. He has dominated too. He has shown that he can do just about everything in the ring. His biggest weakness is probably inside fighting.Quote:
Originally Posted by FensterLoma has beat better than Crawford.Quote:
Originally Posted by powerpuncherLoma hasn’t either. I guarantee that Crawford would absolutely destroy Loma at 140 just like Loma did to Rigo at 130. Crawford has proven over and over that he is the best. I’m not saying that Loma won’t take him over, but at the moment, Crawford is still #1.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
Golovkin is in front of Crawford too. I guarantee that he would absolutely destroy Crawford at 160. He has proven over and over that he is the best.
Anyone rating Crawford no.1 is doing so because they're dazzled by bling. Simple as. I'm interested in substance.
I don’t buy that Loma has beaten better opposition. Crawford has more solid fights in his career than Loma even has fights. And I’m not that impressed by GGG. He is obviously good but not #1 p4p good. If he were better than Crawford, he would have won every round against Canelo.
Winning every round against Canelo would not guarantee anything.
Canelo will never be considered P4P until he at least beats GGG and BJS.
@Fenster, if you don't mind me saying so, in the last couple of weeks , your style of writing has gone very "Street Bro" and "down with the kids".Quote:
Originally Posted by FensterQuote:
Originally Posted by impListen treacle,Quote:
Originally Posted by FensterLook young matey, you need to calm down, if you can't handle Crawford not being no.1 that's maybe down to deeper issues that you need to address, however, it's all good in the hood.Quote:
Originally Posted by imp
Nobody rates Crawford no.1 - The Ring. ESPN. HBO. SKY. Boxing Monthly. Fact.
Stop the fake news.
Why are you so obsessed with Loma being crowned P4P number 1?
I just showed you that Lomo himself has mentioned from his own mouth that Crawford is the top man.
In all honesty, I think it's way too soon to be crowning any of these guys P4P...look how long Ward had to wait for it and then he retired!
It's all hypothetical bullcrap anyway..everyone will always choose their favourites.
Listen bruv, you be obsessed with P4P for your favourites, not me. Lets just pretend Loma doesn't exist. Whatever makes you happy matey.
Golovkin is P4P no.1.
Garcia?
Inoue?
They be undefeated. They have multi titles. They beat better names than Crawford. Stop hatering my matey. Stop hatering.
Before this, your style of writing was very "Dick Van Dyke in Mary Poppins" Style. And you always used to make very brief succinct points.
e.g. New Style - "Listen Bruv, you be obsessed ........ Stop hatering."
Old Style - He took one on the snotter and then on his bonce.
it's almost like someone has hacked your account. (I reckon it's ever since you ditched the Charles Bronson pic.)
Just an observation.;)
Fair enough.Quote:
Originally Posted by FensterFloyd and Ward?Quote:
Originally Posted by imp
Think it is do to not being active anymore and his age not sure he is even going to fight anymore if he comes back wins a fight he will be back up in the ratings i am pretty sure of it.Quote:
Originally Posted by goti71
Guess for pound for pound it would have to be Crawford or Lamo those are the only options you can look at. Maybe might see them in ring i am not sure how much Loma cuts maybe he can make 140 Garcia did it and was ok.
This. How can anyone, even off of last night's performance from Loma, have him ahead of Crawford- AFTER ALL OF WHAT CRAWFORD HAS DONE- is just disrespectful.Quote:
Originally Posted by powerpuncher
Let us not forget Loma lost to Salido. Let us not forget Crawford fights more top tier opponents and opposition. Let us not forget that Crawford unified the belts, the first guy to do so in over 10 years!
it's the auto-correct, helps me fit in.Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo Carnera@Fenster, if you don't mind me saying so, in the last couple of weeks , your style of writing has gone very "Street Bro" and "down with the kids".Quote:
Originally Posted by FensterQuote:
Originally Posted by impListen treacle,Quote:
Originally Posted by FensterLook young matey, you need to calm down, if you can't handle Crawford not being no.1 that's maybe down to deeper issues that you need to address, however, it's all good in the hood.Quote:
Originally Posted by imp
Nobody rates Crawford no.1 - The Ring. ESPN. HBO. SKY. Boxing Monthly. Fact.
Stop the fake news.
Why are you so obsessed with Loma being crowned P4P number 1?
I just showed you that Lomo himself has mentioned from his own mouth that Crawford is the top man.
In all honesty, I think it's way too soon to be crowning any of these guys P4P...look how long Ward had to wait for it and then he retired!
It's all hypothetical bullcrap anyway..everyone will always choose their favourites.
Listen bruv, you be obsessed with P4P for your favourites, not me. Lets just pretend Loma doesn't exist. Whatever makes you happy matey.
Golovkin is P4P no.1.
Garcia?
Inoue?
They be undefeated. They have multi titles. They beat better names than Crawford. Stop hatering my matey. Stop hatering.
Before this, your style of writing was very "Dick Van Dyke in Mary Poppins" Style. And you always used to make very brief succinct points.
e.g. New Style - "Listen Bruv, you be obsessed ........ Stop hatering."
Old Style - He took one on the snotter and then on his bonce.
it's almost like someone has hacked your account. (I reckon it's ever since you ditched the Charles Bronson pic.)
Just an observation.;)
If Golovkin was better than Crawford he would have beat Canelo 12-0? Damn... cool argument, bro, cool argument.Quote:
Originally Posted by powerpuncherCrawford has beaten tons of good fighters. He has dominated too. He has shown that he can do just about everything in the ring. His biggest weakness is probably inside fighting.Quote:
Originally Posted by FensterLoma has beat better than Crawford.Quote:
Originally Posted by powerpuncherLoma hasn’t either. I guarantee that Crawford would absolutely destroy Loma at 140 just like Loma did to Rigo at 130. Crawford has proven over and over that he is the best. I’m not saying that Loma won’t take him over, but at the moment, Crawford is still #1.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
Golovkin is in front of Crawford too. I guarantee that he would absolutely destroy Crawford at 160. He has proven over and over that he is the best.
Anyone rating Crawford no.1 is doing so because they're dazzled by bling. Simple as. I'm interested in substance.
I don’t buy that Loma has beaten better opposition. Crawford has more solid fights in his career than Loma even has fights. And I’m not that impressed by GGG. He is obviously good but not #1 p4p good. If he were better than Crawford, he would have won every round against Canelo.
I'm not selling anything for you to buy, scream Crawford is the best all you like, It wont change the fact Loma is P4P no.1. Fact. Or Golovkin. Fact.
Since when did you guys decide who was the best.
The truth is obvious.
Huh? So my arguments that Crawford has fought better opposition is dumb yet you are allowed to say Loma and GGG are better than Crawford. Fact. I think you are confused with what a fact is. You have literally made no argument and just called my stupid. I think you need to rethink what you wrote. I’ll give you another try to not look ignorant because I know you are better than this.Quote:
Originally Posted by FensterIf Golovkin was better than Crawford he would have beat Canelo 12-0? Damn... cool argument, bro, cool argument.Quote:
Originally Posted by powerpuncherCrawford has beaten tons of good fighters. He has dominated too. He has shown that he can do just about everything in the ring. His biggest weakness is probably inside fighting.Quote:
Originally Posted by FensterLoma has beat better than Crawford.Quote:
Originally Posted by powerpuncherLoma hasn’t either. I guarantee that Crawford would absolutely destroy Loma at 140 just like Loma did to Rigo at 130. Crawford has proven over and over that he is the best. I’m not saying that Loma won’t take him over, but at the moment, Crawford is still #1.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
Golovkin is in front of Crawford too. I guarantee that he would absolutely destroy Crawford at 160. He has proven over and over that he is the best.
Anyone rating Crawford no.1 is doing so because they're dazzled by bling. Simple as. I'm interested in substance.
I don’t buy that Loma has beaten better opposition. Crawford has more solid fights in his career than Loma even has fights. And I’m not that impressed by GGG. He is obviously good but not #1 p4p good. If he were better than Crawford, he would have won every round against Canelo.
I'm not selling anything for you to buy, scream Crawford is the best all you like, It wont change the fact Loma is P4P no.1. Fact. Or Golovkin. Fact.
Since when did you guys decide who was the best.
The truth is obvious.
I think you're confused, bro, I didn't call you anything, I even praised you for your great debate skills.Quote:
Originally Posted by powerpuncherHuh? So my arguments that Crawford has fought better opposition is dumb yet you are allowed to say Loma and GGG are better than Crawford. Fact. I think you are confused with what a fact is. You have literally made no argument and just called my stupid. I think you need to rethink what you wrote. I’ll give you another try to not look ignorant because I know you are better than this.Quote:
Originally Posted by FensterIf Golovkin was better than Crawford he would have beat Canelo 12-0? Damn... cool argument, bro, cool argument.Quote:
Originally Posted by powerpuncherCrawford has beaten tons of good fighters. He has dominated too. He has shown that he can do just about everything in the ring. His biggest weakness is probably inside fighting.Quote:
Originally Posted by FensterLoma has beat better than Crawford.Quote:
Originally Posted by powerpuncherLoma hasn’t either. I guarantee that Crawford would absolutely destroy Loma at 140 just like Loma did to Rigo at 130. Crawford has proven over and over that he is the best. I’m not saying that Loma won’t take him over, but at the moment, Crawford is still #1.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
Golovkin is in front of Crawford too. I guarantee that he would absolutely destroy Crawford at 160. He has proven over and over that he is the best.
Anyone rating Crawford no.1 is doing so because they're dazzled by bling. Simple as. I'm interested in substance.
I don’t buy that Loma has beaten better opposition. Crawford has more solid fights in his career than Loma even has fights. And I’m not that impressed by GGG. He is obviously good but not #1 p4p good. If he were better than Crawford, he would have won every round against Canelo.
I'm not selling anything for you to buy, scream Crawford is the best all you like, It wont change the fact Loma is P4P no.1. Fact. Or Golovkin. Fact.
Since when did you guys decide who was the best.
The truth is obvious.
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Originally Posted by powerpuncher
Okay. So you have no argument. No problem
Your argument that Loma isn't best because I wrong is right. I rethink Golovkin not winning Canelo every round. And never bested all rounds over Jacobs.Quote:
Originally Posted by powerpuncher
Crawford winned Ricky Burns all rounds. And Pistol.
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Originally Posted by powerpuncher