Canelo really does not want to fight Benavidez!

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Originally Posted by Primo Carnera

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Originally Posted by TIC

1, i can only give my opinion. dmitry should have taken the offer from canelo for the same terms because it was the only offer (therefore the best offer), it was still good money for dmitry & another high profile fight, it was better than remaining inactive for over a year to end up fighting lyndon arthur

2, addressed the point, david b was not disciplined & lost his belt twice, if not for his own actions he would have still held a belt when canelo officially moved back to super middle. the fight was there if canelo wanted it, maybe canelo didn't want to give a payday to david b, just like he didn't give a payday to david morrell or william scull who were both ahead of david b in the mandatory rotation

unfortunately you & i are not debating, i am giving you questions to ask before making your points. i don't expect anything from you

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Well this whole forum is based on debating ???? And I gave you questions first.

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this forum is based on posting thoughts (mainly about boxing)

i just answered your questions. the usual format of a debate is to first lay out your argument, not ask questions

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Originally Posted by TIC

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Originally Posted by Primo Carnera

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Originally Posted by TIC

1, i can only give my opinion. dmitry should have taken the offer from canelo for the same terms because it was the only offer (therefore the best offer), it was still good money for dmitry & another high profile fight, it was better than remaining inactive for over a year to end up fighting lyndon arthur

2, addressed the point, david b was not disciplined & lost his belt twice, if not for his own actions he would have still held a belt when canelo officially moved back to super middle. the fight was there if canelo wanted it, maybe canelo didn't want to give a payday to david b, just like he didn't give a payday to david morrell or william scull who were both ahead of david b in the mandatory rotation

unfortunately you & i are not debating, i am giving you questions to ask before making your points. i don't expect anything from you

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Well this whole forum is based on debating ???? And I gave you questions first.

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this forum is based on posting thoughts (mainly about boxing)

i just answered your questions. the usual format of a debate is to first lay out your argument, not ask questions

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But that’s the point , you never. And for the record, I “laid out my argument “ although I would say it was more a point of view than argument, which you disputed.
That’s when I asked a question, merely to highlight my point of view.
Btw. Your final sentence was a bit rich considering all you ever do is ask questions. ;D;D;D

you replied to my original question about the dmitry rematch

i have answered your questions

your point was that david b moved up because he was tired of waiting, that maybe true, my point was if david b had of been disciplined he still would have held a belt when canelo officially moved back to super middle

you think canelo never wanted the david b fight for whatever reason, i just think canelo didn't want to give david b a payday after a certain point for whatever reason, not that he is afraid of him

i was explaining the usual format of a debate, since you felt the need to try & explain the fundamentals of debating to me

what's wrong with asking questions?

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Originally Posted by Denilson3.0

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Originally Posted by TIC

was austin trout white enough? what about erislandy lara, what about floyd or james kirkland or jermell?

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These are the ages of the black fighters when Canelo fought them

• Daniel Jones (32 yrs old)
• James Kirkland (32 yrs old)
• Floyd Mayweather (36 yrs old)
• Austin Trout (30 yrs old)
• Erilandy Lara (32 years old)
• Shane Mosley (41 yrs old)
• Lanardo Tyner (34 yrd old)
• Jermall Charlo (33 years old)

Say what you want but Nelo has a lack of good (in their prime) black fighters on his resume.

That's why he and his team will never fight a David Morrell (26 yrs old) or Benavidez (He's not white enough and he's in his prime at 27)

Canelo don't want smoke with prime black fighters. Everyone knows that. But he's ran out of white European fighters to smack down so he might have to grow a pair and fight a prime live top black fighter.

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If you remove the word "black" from most of your post, it actually makes sense. Canelo don't want smoke with prime fighters. Period. Forget the black. They're also included.

Another thing. He ran out of white BRITISH fighters to smack down. "European" would include Golovkin, who got robbed in their first fight, inexplicably gave Canelo too much respect in their 2nd... and was an old 40-year old man dragged up to supermiddle for the first time in his career and was destined to lose.