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Re: Who matches up best with Pac?
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Originally Posted by josef4334
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Originally Posted by yoitsdan
Joan Guzman, slick and iron chinned. He has the best chance IMO.
iron chinned? no disrespect to guzman.. but who was the hardest puncher he ever faced??????
Did you not see the Barrios fight? Everyone knows Barrios is has power, he was overweight and everything for that fight, and he hit Guzman flush on the chin a few times early on and he didn't even flinch, if you live in britain the punch is actually on the Sky Sports boxing intro.
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Re: Who matches up best with Pac?
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Originally Posted by yoitsdan
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Originally Posted by josef4334
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Originally Posted by yoitsdan
Joan Guzman, slick and iron chinned. He has the best chance IMO.
iron chinned? no disrespect to guzman.. but who was the hardest puncher he ever faced??????
Did you not see the Barrios fight? Everyone knows Barrios is has power, he was overweight and everything for that fight, and he hit Guzman flush on the chin a few times early on and he didn't even flinch, if you live in britain the punch is actually on the Sky Sports boxing intro.
really? who has he fought that is worth mentioning??? guzman... and freitas..he lost both those fights.freitas tko'ed him
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Re: Who matches up best with Pac?
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Originally Posted by BoxingGod
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Originally Posted by josef4334
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Originally Posted by yoitsdan
Joan Guzman, slick and iron chinned. He has the best chance IMO.
iron chinned? no disrespect to guzman.. but who was the hardest puncher he ever faced??????
yea iron chinned??? thats an overstatement.
eric morales was iron chinned, people can talk shyt and say eric was past his prime when pac got to him, but past it or not iron chins remains iron chinned theres no prime iron chinned your born with it, and you die with an iron chin.
people are not seeing the great fight morales put on in defeat to pac. he hit pac with huge shots too and he took a lot of huge shots before accepting that pacman was nothing like anyone out there so he accept defeat. its a classic fight, one legend losing to the new legend.
guzman soto or valero wouldn't have done what pac did to morales, and what guzman soto valero do to their oppenents pac would do much worst to them.
the shots eric hit pac with he could of knock guzman soto or valero with (those shots pac took from eric), but pac hits some much harder and hit so much more often and so fast you can't see all of them coming. watch the fight it was brutal both fighters took huge shots but pac hits harder and can take more. guzman soto valero would of been out by any of the shots pac and eric took from eachother.
valero can pop but once someone that hits hard hits him his out, plus his power is overrated he hasn't beat anyone pac couldn't knock the fwock out.
guzman can move but he doesn't have an iron chin or power atleast its not yet proven if ever.
i repeat...the man who matches up best with pac is j....m....m
jmm may not have as good a chin as eric or mab, but he doesn't stay down and he has proven to pick oppenents apart.
jmm whoops any of the three guzman valero or soto, he makes them look foolish.
i repeat...pac jmm rematch needs to happen, any other fight is just a waste of time.
Not sure about that . There are afew examples I can think of where a seemingly iron chinned fighter begind to lose punch resistance . Mercer was ironed chinned in his day but now he gets stopped by guys like Wvlad and Briggs but lasts 10 with a prime Lewis in his best years .
Mayorga looked like a tough SOB but as he's got older he's been getting stopped more . Robin Reid had a good chin but now he's past it he got K.O'd by Lacy . I think Morales in his youth would have absorbed those shots vs Pac and had teh grit to fire back . It says as much about his chin as it does his heart in that fight
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Re: Who matches up best with Pac?
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Re: Who matches up best with Pac?
I think Alex Arthur would be a great match with Pac! I know not many of you Americans have seen much of Arthur but believe me, he is ready for a World class fight like this! Freddie Roach was once Arthur's trainer and from what I've heard, he is slighlty worried about what Arthur would bring to the table in a bout against Pacquaio! Arthur is a better technical boxer, and since he got Owen Smith and Wayne McCullough in his corner, his defence has improved and he is a far better street smarts operator! He has a solid jab, had a lot of power and his defence is 10 times better since he lost his only fight (a ko in a fantastic British dust-up with Michael Gomez, which I was at coincedentally and was the best bout I've seen live!)!
Arthur has the style to cause Pac problems and it has the makings of a real classic!
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Re: Who matches up best with Pac?
surprsingly no one mentioned rocky juarez, great power, chin and defense.
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Re: Who matches up best with Pac?
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Originally Posted by GP100
surprsingly no one mentioned rocky juarez, great power, chin and defense.
but lack of heart or will. so noun of the above really matters without will.
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Re: Who matches up best with Pac?
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Originally Posted by Olympian904
If you knock a guy down that many times...and you only come away with a draw...YOU LOST.
Are you trying to say that the guy who never knocked you out wins? LMAO!
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Re: Who matches up best with Pac?
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Originally Posted by Olympian904
If you knock a guy down that many times...and you only come away with a draw...YOU LOST.
You didnt lose, it only means a judge made a mistake and you should've won.
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Re: Who matches up best with Pac?
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Originally Posted by titleist905t
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Originally Posted by Olympian904
If you knock a guy down that many times...and you only come away with a draw...YOU LOST.
Are you trying to say that the guy who never knocked you out wins? LMAO!
Pay attention...If you knock me down 2 or 3 times and come away with a draw...its common sense that you lost the fight...with the exception of that round.
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Re: Who matches up best with Pac?
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Originally Posted by Olympian904
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Originally Posted by titleist905t
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Originally Posted by Olympian904
If you knock a guy down that many times...and you only come away with a draw...YOU LOST.
Are you trying to say that the guy who never knocked you out wins? LMAO!
Pay attention...If you knock me down 2 or 3 times and come away with a draw...its common sense that you lost the fight...with the exception of that round.
so you're saying that you can get a draw by winning one round 10-7 while losing 11 rounds 10-9? calculator... hint hint
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Re: Who matches up best with Pac?
Imo Joan Guzman has all the ability in his make-up to beat Pac, the man is a brilliant technical fighter (i rate him up there with Winky and just under Floyd) with great speed and an impressive defence, when he get's into a rythem he's hell to deal with, the way he just dominated Barrios was class, he has no fear and that's why Pac ran from him in the lower weight divisions, after Pac's last win against Morales he sent an open letter challenging Pac again and still there's been no answer, Joan's got Pac's number and Pac knows it.
Peace
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Re: Who matches up best with Pac?
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Originally Posted by $kills$o$mooth
Imo Joan Guzman has all the ability in his make-up to beat Pac, the man is a brilliant technical fighter (i rate him up there with Winky and just under Floyd) with great speed and an impressive defence, when he get's into a rythem he's hell to deal with, the way he just dominated Barrios was class, he has no fear and that's why Pac ran from him in the lower weight divisions, after Pac's last win against Morales he sent an open letter challenging Pac again and still there's been no answer, Joan's got Pac's number and Pac knows it.
Peace
hey... do we know you??? ur paragon right? ur dad is joan guzman right?
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Re: Who matches up best with Pac?
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Originally Posted by josef4334
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Originally Posted by Olympian904
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Originally Posted by titleist905t
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Originally Posted by Olympian904
If you knock a guy down that many times...and you only come away with a draw...YOU LOST.
Are you trying to say that the guy who never knocked you out wins? LMAO!
Pay attention...If you knock me down 2 or 3 times and come away with a draw...its common sense that you lost the fight...with the exception of that round.
so you're saying that you can get a draw by winning one round 10-7 while losing 11 rounds 10-9? calculator... hint hint
Quick question..do you know how a fight is scored???????
Thats all im gonna say.
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Re: Who matches up best with Pac?
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Originally Posted by GP100
surprsingly no one mentioned rocky juarez, great power, chin and defense.
And slow as molasses.
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Re: Who matches up best with Pac?
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Originally Posted by Olympian904
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Originally Posted by josef4334
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Originally Posted by Olympian904
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Originally Posted by titleist905t
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Originally Posted by Olympian904
If you knock a guy down that many times...and you only come away with a draw...YOU LOST.
Are you trying to say that the guy who never knocked you out wins? LMAO!
Pay attention...If you knock me down 2 or 3 times and come away with a draw...its common sense that you lost the fight...with the exception of that round.
so you're saying that you can get a draw by winning one round 10-7 while losing 11 rounds 10-9? calculator... hint hint
Quick question..do you know how a fight is scored???????
Thats all im gonna say.
dont even go there man.. just because you have 256 post you think i dont know how a fight is scored... this is what you wrote... "its common sense that you lost the fight...with the exception of that round." how do you explain you lost the fight except one round????how many rounds in a title fight.. 12 right?and if you really know how to score the fight.. u shud recognize that the first round in pac vs jmm is a 10-6, right?
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Re: Who matches up best with Pac?
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Originally Posted by josef4334
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Originally Posted by $kills$o$mooth
Imo Joan Guzman has all the ability in his make-up to beat Pac, the man is a brilliant technical fighter (i rate him up there with Winky and just under Floyd) with great speed and an impressive defence, when he get's into a rythem he's hell to deal with, the way he just dominated Barrios was class, he has no fear and that's why Pac ran from him in the lower weight divisions, after Pac's last win against Morales he sent an open letter challenging Pac again and still there's been no answer, Joan's got Pac's number and Pac knows it.
Peace
hey... do we know you??? ur paragon right? ur dad is joan guzman right?
Nope not me, but i think i know you!!, Pac's your boyfriend right?.
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Re: Who matches up best with Pac?
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Originally Posted by josef4334
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Originally Posted by Olympian904
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Originally Posted by josef4334
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Originally Posted by Olympian904
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Originally Posted by titleist905t
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Originally Posted by Olympian904
If you knock a guy down that many times...and you only come away with a draw...YOU LOST.
Are you trying to say that the guy who never knocked you out wins? LMAO!
Pay attention...If you knock me down 2 or 3 times and come away with a draw...its common sense that you lost the fight...with the exception of that round.
so you're saying that you can get a draw by winning one round 10-7 while losing 11 rounds 10-9? calculator... hint hint
Quick question..do you know how a fight is scored???????
Thats all im gonna say.
dont even go there man.. just because you have 256 post you think i dont know how a fight is scored... this is what you wrote... "its common sense that you lost the fight...with the exception of that round." how do you explain you lost the fight except one round????how many rounds in a title fight.. 12 right?and if you really know how to score the fight.. u shud recognize that the first round in pac vs jmm is a 10-6, right?
10-6...and look at rounds 2-12...and see how many jmm won and pac won in order to get a draw.JMM won more.
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Re: Who matches up best with Pac?
[youtube=425,350]YAZregpxgAQ[/youtube]
This is for the guy that said they haven't seen Valero.
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Re: Who matches up best with Pac?
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Originally Posted by killersheep
[youtube=425,350]YAZregpxgAQ[/youtube]
This is for the guy that said they haven't seen Valero.
was that suppose to be impressive?
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Re: Who matches up best with Pac?
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Originally Posted by BoxingGod
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Originally Posted by killersheep
[youtube=425,350]YAZregpxgAQ[/youtube]
This is for the guy that said they haven't seen Valero.
was that suppose to be impressive?
yeah... thats suppose to be impressive if you like watching fighters doing a 6 rounder and be called a champion of the world
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Re: Who matches up best with Pac?
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Originally Posted by BoxingGod
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Originally Posted by killersheep
[youtube=425,350]YAZregpxgAQ[/youtube]
This is for the guy that said they haven't seen Valero.
was that suppose to be impressive?
Hell no, I didn't post that to be impressive, just posted it to show his style.
His defense is non-existent and he loads up on every punch too much.
He swings wildly.
I'm not impressed, but that's what he looks like boxing...................simple.
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Re: Who matches up best with Pac?
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Originally Posted by killersheep
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Originally Posted by BoxingGod
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Originally Posted by killersheep
[youtube=425,350]YAZregpxgAQ[/youtube]
This is for the guy that said they haven't seen Valero.
was that suppose to be impressive?
Hell no, I didn't post that to be impressive, just posted it to show his style.
His defense is non-existent and he loads up on every punch too much.
He swings wildly.
I'm not impressed, but that's what he looks like boxing...................simple.
+678 :coolclick:
yea plus the fact that the refs are stopping his fights for uhh for him just like that.
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Re: Who matches up best with Pac?
I like to see Pac-JMM rematch first, then Valero, Soto, and Guzman.
Pac-MAB rematch will be boring.
