Re: Winky Wright moaning away as per usual:declines bouts with Kessler and Abrah
Rookiefan,Wright always come across arrogant in interviews imo. If your sis says it,she won't be the last. Heck,this thread right here,the manner in which he is questioning AA and Kessler,is kind of arrogant too.I couldn't stand his cry baby antics after the JT match.
Re: Winky Wright moaning away as per usual:declines bouts with Kessler and Abraham
I hope Winky just gets destroyed by someone and retire he old news need some new blood.
Re: Winky Wright moaning away as per usual:declines bouts with Kessler and Abrah
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Originally Posted by Taeth
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Originally Posted by Mr140
I hate Winky he wines way to much he lost to Vargas by a point, the draw was ok fo me it was a close fight and he was the challenger, and he lost to B hop fair and square. Thenhe wines about the decision look if you fight close fights you may not get the go ahead. His best win was a blown up Mosley who never should of fought at the weight neither should Quarty. Then he gets the scraps of what was left of Trinadad after Hopkins destroyed him Winky needs to shut up and just fight.
are you blind? He easily was beating Vargas, and he easily deserved the win against Taylor, it was close, but not that close. He lost a close fight against B-Hop when he was fighting a weight class weight higher for him than Quartey coming up to face him. Also beating Mosley that close to his prime is still beating Mosley, the only problem I have with that is Oscar beat him worse in their fight right before and still lost the decision.
Totally disagree Vargas vs Winky was very razor thin close, Vargas come on strong in later rounds throwing like 90+ punches if i remember right and Vargas earned a draw on my card. Sorry but if you think Winky easily beat Vargas then you are the one that is blind or maybe i misread that let me know if you reply. And as for Taylor vs Winky another close fight that i had Winky winning but mostly every boxing fan had that razor thin close fight, sorry Taeth you make good points but just because someone has different opinion to you doesn't make them wrong, if they had Taylor and Vargas winning then thats fair enough its not like they were clear cut wins for Wright both fights were very close.
And one last thing i disagree with is that Mosley was was close to his prime against Wright, i totally disagree with that Mosley was above his natural weight class and was coming off 2 bad losses to Wright and a controversial win vs ODLH in which i didn't think he looked impressive. Now i don't think it would of mattered if Mosley was in his peak i just think Wright had his number, but Mosley was in a slump for quite awhile in his career it was during 1st Forrest fight in which he seemed to have badly been effected by the head butt. And also the battering off Forrest didn't help his confidence either, i think Mosley regained some of his old form when he fought Collazo and sparked out Vargas in the rematch.
Re: Winky Wright moaning away as per usual:declines bouts with Kessler and Abraham
winky needs to realise he ain't a big draw, you want the big fights you gonna have to earn them
Re: Winky Wright moaning away as per usual:declines bouts with Kessler and Abrah
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Originally Posted by Ice Cold Boxing
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Originally Posted by Taeth
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Originally Posted by Mr140
I hate Winky he wines way to much he lost to Vargas by a point, the draw was ok fo me it was a close fight and he was the challenger, and he lost to B hop fair and square. Thenhe wines about the decision look if you fight close fights you may not get the go ahead. His best win was a blown up Mosley who never should of fought at the weight neither should Quarty. Then he gets the scraps of what was left of Trinadad after Hopkins destroyed him Winky needs to shut up and just fight.
are you blind? He easily was beating Vargas, and he easily deserved the win against Taylor, it was close, but not that close. He lost a close fight against B-Hop when he was fighting a weight class weight higher for him than Quartey coming up to face him. Also beating Mosley that close to his prime is still beating Mosley, the only problem I have with that is Oscar beat him worse in their fight right before and still lost the decision.
Totally disagree Vargas vs Winky was very razor thin close, Vargas come on strong in later rounds throwing like 90+ punches if i remember right and Vargas earned a draw on my card. Sorry but if you think Winky easily beat Vargas then you are the one that is blind or maybe i misread that let me know if you reply. And as for Taylor vs Winky another close fight that i had Winky winning but mostly every boxing fan had that razor thin close fight, sorry Taeth you make good points but just because someone has different opinion to you doesn't make them wrong, if they had Taylor and Vargas winning then thats fair enough its not like they were clear cut wins for Wright both fights were very close.
And one last thing i disagree with is that Mosley was was close to his prime against Wright, i totally disagree with that Mosley was above his natural weight class and was coming off 2 bad losses to Wright and a controversial win vs ODLH in which i didn't think he looked impressive. Now i don't think it would of mattered if Mosley was in his peak i just think Wright had his number, but Mosley was in a slump for quite awhile in his career it was during 1st Forrest fight in which he seemed to have badly been effected by the head butt. And also the battering off Forrest didn't help his confidence either, i think Mosley regained some of his old form when he fought Collazo and sparked out Vargas in the rematch.
Agreed, Like I said, Wright was lucky to get a chance with two big names in a row because they were both coming out of losses and/or retirement and needed a legit champion to get them back on track. All respect for Winky in stepping up and spoiling their plans. By the time Winky was done with Mosley mosley was 1 - 4 with 1 no contest in his last 6 fights. And as ICE said, that one win was very controversial.
Re: Winky Wright moaning away as per usual:declines bouts with Kessler and Abraham
Man it sure is easy to say that Mosely was off form and on a loosing streak yet "decay never sleeps"......but somehow Mosely regained his form. Has it occurred to anyone that level of opposition had anything to do with it?
Re: Winky Wright moaning away as per usual:declines bouts with Kessler and Abrah
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Originally Posted by boozeboxer
Man it sure is easy to say that Mosely was off form and on a loosing streak yet "decay never sleeps"......but somehow Mosely regained his form. Has it occurred to anyone that level of opposition had anything to do with it?
I agree.
When I saw the Mosley vs. Vargas fight (the first one) I thought that Mosley looked like a shell of his old self, and had that fight continued, Vargas (who was picking Mosley apart more and more as the fight went on in spite of his massively swollen eye) would have picked up the decision.
In the rematch, it was obvious that Vargas didn't give a shyt and was just doing it for the money. I'm pretty sure that somebody on here posted a link where Vargas actually said (before the fight) that he didn't really want the fight but was doing it for the money in order to launch his "Nawshis," clothing line.
As for Luis Collazo, I never thought too much of him except that he gave an extremely unprepared Ricky
Hatton a much tougher fight than was expected. In fact, I think I even predicted that Collazo wouldn't win a round in that fight on this very forum.
But I will admit that Mosley looked much better against Cotto than I had seen him in a long time and Cotto still won a hard fought victory.
Kinda makes you wonder if the result would have been the same if a 34 year old Mosley (the same age as Oscar when he fought PBF) had fought Cotto that night.
Re: Winky Wright moaning away as per usual:declines bouts with Kessler and Abraham
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Originally Posted by boozeboxer
Man it sure is easy to say that Mosely was off form and on a loosing streak yet "decay never sleeps"......but somehow Mosely regained his form. Has it occurred to anyone that level of opposition had anything to do with it?
I don't know if you are talking to Ice or me. But if you look at my post I never said Mosley was well passed it or was not a top fighter anymore. All I meant was the only reason Mosley risked a fight with Wright was because he was coming out of losses and less than great performances.
I think both Mosley and Tito underestimated Wright at the time.... Not that that influenced their performace in the fight but I think it influenced their decision to fight him. And if they had not done so, they would probably not bother fighting him and would've fought some other tune up before they fought eachother, which is what they wanted to do in the first place.
At the time Mosley was concidered the legit champion for getting that decision against Oscar and Wright was not near a big enough name. But at that time Tito wanted to come back and some shmuck decided that the two current champions would have to fight for the right to fight the former undisputed champion of the 154 division. Mosley could've and should've said no and side stepped Wright but didn't. Props for him but like I said, he underestimated Wright.
Had it not been for those events Wright would most likely remain in obscurity for some years more and maybe never made it to the top.
Re: Winky Wright moaning away as per usual:declines bouts with Kessler and Abraham
Honestly Wright would have gotten his chances one way or another. Any American 154-160 that is very skilled will eventually get a chance at least an alphabelt belt.
Re: Winky Wright moaning away as per usual:declines bouts with Kessler and Abraham
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Originally Posted by boozeboxer
Honestly Wright would have gotten his chances one way or another. Any American 154-160 that is very skilled will eventually get a chance at least an alphabelt belt.
Yes this is true, but you must remember that Wright had already had three chances before this. It is very rare for a fighter with very little drawing power to get a fourth shot.
I give him all the respect in the world for making it happen in what was undoubtably his last chance. It is partly because of this that his rise to the top was somewhat short lived. This guys has been around for a long time when he finally made it to the top, he was in his last legs. I don't expect to see him on top for much longer.
