Miranda vs Kessler - ALMOST A DONE DEAL!

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Originally Posted by hitmandonny

Miranda has a lot more skill than Mayorga liquid.

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You can't prove that by me. Mayorga managed to beat a champion and defend his title. That's the only difference I see between the two.

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Originally Posted by liquid

You can't prove that by me. Mayorga managed to beat a champion and defend his title. That's the only difference I see between the two.

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Miranda won the IBF champion from Abraham (just not offically) and defended it successfully twice. ;D

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Originally Posted by liquid

You can't prove that by me. Mayorga managed to beat a champion and defend his title. That's the only difference I see between the two.

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Agreed...IMO Mayorga is better skilled then Miranda....Mayorga can actually box fairly well...he just prefers to slug it out

I think Kessler should win this pretty easily...I just dread that Miranda might become lucky and bring the Miranda hype to new heights(I mean if even a clear loss brings comments like the one underneath what will a win do?!?)...
On the other hand chances are good that Kessler shuts the hype once and for all up for good...

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Originally Posted by Pantera

Miranda won the IBF champion from Abraham (just not offically) and defended it successfully twice. ;D

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...yawn...

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Originally Posted by Pantera

Miranda won the IBF champion from Abraham (just not offically) and defended it successfully twice. ;D

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There should have been a rematch.

Kessler has never even been down in his career. I think it'll be a great fight, but Kessler will win a late TKO. I admire Miranda though, and I'm a big fan.

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Originally Posted by Pantera

Great news!
The Kessler team came back to the table and everyone has agreed to the important numbers. Showtime will pick this up for a May 10 fight.

A great fight for us fans and a win win situation for the fighters.

I couldnt be happier! I hope my boy can prove his weight at 160lbs was an issue and he is gonna back bigtime at 168lbs.

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I hope you're right, but do you have a link to support this? I'm not seeing an agreement being reported anywhere.

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Originally Posted by liquid

You can't prove that by me. Mayorga managed to beat a champion and defend his title. That's the only difference I see between the two.

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Excellent point

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Originally Posted by Pantera

Miranda won the IBF champion from Abraham (just not offically) and defended it successfully twice. ;D

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That was pretty lame

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Originally Posted by Violent Demise

That was pretty lame

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Come on VD, beating Willie Gibbs is what defines a TRUE champion! :biglaugh:

I think Kessler would smoke Miranda, by the way.

Right. Not officially. If Miranda hadn't slapped Abraham's balls around he might have an argument.

OK... some changes are happening (might be pished back a few weeks) but looking good to happen!

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Originally Posted by ono

I think this will be a closer fight than many expect. I remember Miranda landing some absolute gems on Pavlik.

If the same happens to Kessler, who knows.


Does Kessler have the same level of determination and heart as Pavlik? Can he absorb the shots just like Pavlik did? And can he fire back with enough power and intensity as Pavlik did?

I think a lot on here just remember him being ko'd but the fight was very close. Pavlik's chin and heart kept him in that fight.

There is a chance Kessler can dominate with straight punches. But there is also a chance that he could unravel if he's hurt. Nobody has ever seen him in a situation like that.....so it could be very interesting.

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I usually agree with your posts, but I think your dead wrong here, along with many others in this thread. I don't see those "gems" Miranda landed on Pavlik at all. Taylor landed a couple of gems on Pavlik, Miranda didn't come close to those kind of shots. The fact is, that whole fight Pavlik was the one backing Miranda up. The entire time. And Miranda does not pack his power when he is on the back foot. He connected with Pavliks chin plenty sure, but go back and really watch the way his feet were set at the time. They were almost all arm punches he was throwing. It was definetly an action packed fight, but it was also one sided in my view. Pavlik's chin and heart did not keep him in the fight, his own power, jab and technique dictated the fight. I think it's honestly pretty funny how much of a chance people are giving Miranda in this fight. It just proves to a tee that boxing really is about what a fighter has done for you lately. People are talking about how this is so gutsy for Kessler to take as a comeback fight, and that he's never fought anyone like Kessler, etc. For christs sake, Kessler lost a COMPETITIVE UD to Joe Calzaghe, where he landed some wicked uppers and right hands throughout. Calzaghe is on a completely different plane than Miranda in general, not to mention he is naturally bigger. The last time Miranda was in against a remotely quality fighter he got KTFO. Let's get real here, please. Is a KO over David Banks supposed to vindicate him as a SMW threat? This is ridiculous imo. Kessler has WAY too much for Miranda, not only in terms of overall ability but stylistically. Miranda is going to eat straight punches down the middle something fierce. The question will be whether he can take them. I really don't think so at all. Kessler is bigger and stronger than Miranda and probably even Pavlik, with his accurate conventional style how the hell is Miranda about to make him go backwards? He won't, and if he tries he'll get timed on the way in with right hands.

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Originally Posted by p4pking

I usually agree with your posts, but I think your dead wrong here, along with many others in this thread. I don't see those "gems" Miranda landed on Pavlik at all. Taylor landed a couple of gems on Pavlik, Miranda didn't come close to those kind of shots. The fact is, that whole fight Pavlik was the one backing Miranda up. The entire time. And Miranda does not pack his power when he is on the back foot. He connected with Pavliks chin plenty sure, but go back and really watch the way his feet were set at the time. They were almost all arm punches he was throwing. It was definetly an action packed fight, but it was also one sided in my view. Pavlik's chin and heart did not keep him in the fight, his own power, jab and technique dictated the fight. I think it's honestly pretty funny how much of a chance people are giving Miranda in this fight. It just proves to a tee that boxing really is about what a fighter has done for you lately. People are talking about how this is so gutsy for Kessler to take as a comeback fight, and that he's never fought anyone like Kessler, etc. For christs sake, Kessler lost a COMPETITIVE UD to Joe Calzaghe, where he landed some wicked uppers and right hands throughout. Calzaghe is on a completely different plane than Miranda in general, not to mention he is naturally bigger. The last time Miranda was in against a remotely quality fighter he got KTFO. Let's get real here, please. Is a KO over David Banks supposed to vindicate him as a SMW threat? This is ridiculous imo. Kessler has WAY too much for Miranda, not only in terms of overall ability but stylistically. Miranda is going to eat straight punches down the middle something fierce. The question will be whether he can take them. I really don't think so at all. Kessler is bigger and stronger than Miranda and probably even Pavlik, with his accurate conventional style how the hell is Miranda about to make him go backwards? He won't, and if he tries he'll get timed on the way in with right hands.

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Good post mate. Makes a lot of sense.

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Originally Posted by p4pking

I usually agree with your posts, but I think your dead wrong here, along with many others in this thread. I don't see those "gems" Miranda landed on Pavlik at all. Taylor landed a couple of gems on Pavlik, Miranda didn't come close to those kind of shots. The fact is, that whole fight Pavlik was the one backing Miranda up. The entire time. And Miranda does not pack his power when he is on the back foot. He connected with Pavliks chin plenty sure, but go back and really watch the way his feet were set at the time. They were almost all arm punches he was throwing. It was definetly an action packed fight, but it was also one sided in my view. Pavlik's chin and heart did not keep him in the fight, his own power, jab and technique dictated the fight. I think it's honestly pretty funny how much of a chance people are giving Miranda in this fight. It just proves to a tee that boxing really is about what a fighter has done for you lately. People are talking about how this is so gutsy for Kessler to take as a comeback fight, and that he's never fought anyone like Kessler, etc. For christs sake, Kessler lost a COMPETITIVE UD to Joe Calzaghe, where he landed some wicked uppers and right hands throughout. Calzaghe is on a completely different plane than Miranda in general, not to mention he is naturally bigger. The last time Miranda was in against a remotely quality fighter he got KTFO. Let's get real here, please. Is a KO over David Banks supposed to vindicate him as a SMW threat? This is ridiculous imo. Kessler has WAY too much for Miranda, not only in terms of overall ability but stylistically. Miranda is going to eat straight punches down the middle something fierce. The question will be whether he can take them. I really don't think so at all. Kessler is bigger and stronger than Miranda and probably even Pavlik, with his accurate conventional style how the hell is Miranda about to make him go backwards? He won't, and if he tries he'll get timed on the way in with right hands.

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Great post, I agree almost 100%.

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Originally Posted by p4pking

I usually agree with your posts, but I think your dead wrong here, along with many others in this thread. I don't see those "gems" Miranda landed on Pavlik at all. Taylor landed a couple of gems on Pavlik, Miranda didn't come close to those kind of shots. The fact is, that whole fight Pavlik was the one backing Miranda up. The entire time. And Miranda does not pack his power when he is on the back foot. He connected with Pavliks chin plenty sure, but go back and really watch the way his feet were set at the time. They were almost all arm punches he was throwing. It was definetly an action packed fight, but it was also one sided in my view. Pavlik's chin and heart did not keep him in the fight, his own power, jab and technique dictated the fight. I think it's honestly pretty funny how much of a chance people are giving Miranda in this fight. It just proves to a tee that boxing really is about what a fighter has done for you lately. People are talking about how this is so gutsy for Kessler to take as a comeback fight, and that he's never fought anyone like Kessler, etc. For christs sake, Kessler lost a COMPETITIVE UD to Joe Calzaghe, where he landed some wicked uppers and right hands throughout. Calzaghe is on a completely different plane than Miranda in general, not to mention he is naturally bigger. The last time Miranda was in against a remotely quality fighter he got KTFO. Let's get real here, please. Is a KO over David Banks supposed to vindicate him as a SMW threat? This is ridiculous imo. Kessler has WAY too much for Miranda, not only in terms of overall ability but stylistically. Miranda is going to eat straight punches down the middle something fierce. The question will be whether he can take them. I really don't think so at all. Kessler is bigger and stronger than Miranda and probably even Pavlik, with his accurate conventional style how the hell is Miranda about to make him go backwards? He won't, and if he tries he'll get timed on the way in with right hands.

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You make good points... But a few things...
Miranda, naturally, is probably bigger and stronger than both Kessler and Calzaghe. He walk around over 200lbs. He was 192lbs in the ring with Banks. So size is not going to be against Miranda.
Yes, he did hit Pavlik with everything he had that night and it did not hurt him. If Miranda is accurate in saying he was far from 100% that night and had nothing on his punches, than this is probably why people think Pavlik has some granite chin. At 100%, fighting closer to his natural weight, maybe..... maybe Pantera DOES posess the power to really hurt someone like Pavlik or Kessler.

Anyway. I just rewatched Calzaghe/Kessler last night. Kessler is a bad ass top fighter. He is one tough nut to crack. Can Miranda crack him? It will not be easy, but if his weight loss troubles hold any water, I give him a chance. I for one will be behind him 100%.

Great fight and looking forward to it!

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Originally Posted by liquid

You can't prove that by me. Mayorga managed to beat a champion and defend his title. That's the only difference I see between the two.

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Miranda has never been dominated the way Mayorga was by Trinidad and De la Hoya.
The arguement that Mayorga decides to slug it disguising his boxing skill is also applicable to Miranda.
Should Miranda focus less on his power I belive he can box quite effectively. Although out hustled, the fight with Abraham showed moments of decent boxing form Miranda, as did the blow out of Banks.

Mayorga however struggeled with Fernado Vargas. A way past it Fernado Vargas. If Mayorga could box that competently, he wouldn't have chosen to slug it out with Vargas at a higher weight than he was comfortable as we've all seen Vargas out boxed by both De la Hoya and Mosely.

this is pretty good news, kessler i feel would win a decision or late stoppage, miranda always has the punchers chance though

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Originally Posted by p4pking

I usually agree with your posts, but I think your dead wrong here, along with many others in this thread. I don't see those "gems" Miranda landed on Pavlik at all. Taylor landed a couple of gems on Pavlik, Miranda didn't come close to those kind of shots. The fact is, that whole fight Pavlik was the one backing Miranda up. The entire time. And Miranda does not pack his power when he is on the back foot. He connected with Pavliks chin plenty sure, but go back and really watch the way his feet were set at the time. They were almost all arm punches he was throwing. It was definetly an action packed fight, but it was also one sided in my view. Pavlik's chin and heart did not keep him in the fight, his own power, jab and technique dictated the fight. I think it's honestly pretty funny how much of a chance people are giving Miranda in this fight. It just proves to a tee that boxing really is about what a fighter has done for you lately. People are talking about how this is so gutsy for Kessler to take as a comeback fight, and that he's never fought anyone like Kessler, etc. For christs sake, Kessler lost a COMPETITIVE UD to Joe Calzaghe, where he landed some wicked uppers and right hands throughout. Calzaghe is on a completely different plane than Miranda in general, not to mention he is naturally bigger. The last time Miranda was in against a remotely quality fighter he got KTFO. Let's get real here, please. Is a KO over David Banks supposed to vindicate him as a SMW threat? This is ridiculous imo. Kessler has WAY too much for Miranda, not only in terms of overall ability but stylistically. Miranda is going to eat straight punches down the middle something fierce. The question will be whether he can take them. I really don't think so at all. Kessler is bigger and stronger than Miranda and probably even Pavlik, with his accurate conventional style how the hell is Miranda about to make him go backwards? He won't, and if he tries he'll get timed on the way in with right hands.

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I think Miranda is a pretty sloppy puncher to be honest, even when he isn't on the back foot his punching technique is sloppy. I disagree that Miranda didn't land any *Gems* on Pavlik. As i remember it he landed some beauty's at the end of round 1 which stunned Pavlik for a second and bloodied his nose. I do agree that his punching power was made much more ineffective by Pavlik backing him up and because Miranda's feet wern't set at the time. But he still landed hard shots on Pavlik that would of knocked out most of the other Middleweights IMO, or at least stopped them from coming forward. I do agree Kessler will beat Miranda pretty handily i think Kessler is in a different class to Miranda, but i disagree that Kessler vs Calzaghe was competitive, i had it 8 rounds to 4 and many other people had it 9 rounds to 3, im not sure what you class as *Competitive* but after about round 4 i see it as a pretty dominant performance from Calzaghe personally. I do agree though Kessler's straight punches right down the pipe will do some serious damage on Miranda who loops his punches, like i said Kessler will give Miranda a boxing lesson IMO. Miranda is pretty 1 dimensional yes he has good power but i think his punching technique is quite sloppy and his defense is pretty sloppy as well. I see Kessler winning one sided decision although it wouldn't surprise me if Kessler stopped Miranda late on.

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Originally Posted by ICB

I think Miranda is a pretty sloppy puncher to be honest, even when he isn't on the back foot his punching technique is sloppy. I disagree that Miranda didn't land any *Gems* on Pavlik. As i remember it he landed some beauty's at the end of round 1 which stunned Pavlik for a second and bloodied his nose. I do agree that his punching power was made much more ineffective by Pavlik backing him up and because Miranda's feet wern't set at the time. But he still landed hard shots on Pavlik that would of knocked out most of the other Middleweights IMO, or at least stopped them from coming forward. I do agree Kessler will beat Miranda pretty handily i think Kessler is in a different class to Miranda, but i disagree that Kessler vs Calzaghe was competitive, i had it 8 rounds to 4 and many other people had it 9 rounds to 3, im not sure what you class as *Competitive* but after about round 4 i see it as a pretty dominant performance from Calzaghe personally. I do agree though Kessler's straight punches right down the pipe will do some serious damage on Miranda who loops his punches, like i said Kessler will give Miranda a boxing lesson IMO. Miranda is pretty 1 dimensional yes he has good power but i think his punching technique is quite sloppy and his defense is pretty sloppy as well. I see Kessler winning one sided decision although it wouldn't surprise me if Kessler stopped Miranda late on.

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I agree with most of your post, but I think Pavlik did so well by not only backing Miranda up, but also by being inside and smothering Miranda's power. Miranda did land some great shots, but I don't thing he got his full power as Kelly was breathing down his neck and he could not get full momentum in his shots. Pavlik fought him perfectly. Miranda has a much better chance at nailing someone who is boxing him and trying to keep him at range. In that respect, I think he will do better in this fight than against Pavlik, but still get out gunned in the end. He will test Kessler's toughness though IMO.

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Originally Posted by hitmandonny

Miranda has never been dominated the way Mayorga was by Trinidad and De la Hoya.
The arguement that Mayorga decides to slug it disguising his boxing skill is also applicable to Miranda.
Should Miranda focus less on his power I belive he can box quite effectively. Although out hustled, the fight with Abraham showed moments of decent boxing form Miranda, as did the blow out of Banks.

Mayorga however struggeled with Fernado Vargas. A way past it Fernado Vargas. If Mayorga could box that competently, he wouldn't have chosen to slug it out with Vargas at a higher weight than he was comfortable as we've all seen Vargas out boxed by both De la Hoya and Mosely.

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And you honestly think Miranda wouldn't get dominated by ODLH or Trinidad as well ?? and Miranda was dominated by Pavlik. The fact is Mayorga has had a better career than Miranda has had and i don't think you can say Miranda is a better boxer, there both pretty sloppy offensively and defensively, the only difference is that at least Mayorga held a title and beat Vernon Forrest x2 who was fresh off beating Shane Mosley.

Miranda should be just about right for Kessler but it will be interesting to see how he approaches it. Miranda obviously can't fight for shit when he's getting backed up but I'm not sure if that will be Kessler's plan. Either way he should win, just the much better fighter.

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Originally Posted by ICB

And you honestly think Miranda wouldn't get dominated by ODLH or Trinidad as well ?? and Miranda was dominated by Pavlik. The fact is Mayorga has had a better career than Miranda has had and i don't think you can say Miranda is a better boxer, there both pretty sloppy offensively and defensively, the only difference is that at least Mayorga held a title and beat Vernon Forrest x2 who was fresh off beating Shane Mosley.

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As Mayorga comes to the end of his career, how can you compare his career to Miranda's who is relatively young and getting started?

Mayorga took beatings from De la Hoya and Trinidad, Had Miranda met Trinidad and Oscar at that time in their careers p4p there is a strong possibility that Miranda would have beaten them.

When has Mayorga ever been competitive with a man at the top of his division? Miranda broke Abrahams jaw in a good fight. I don't really rate Vernon Forrest.

When has Mayorga ever been in the ring with a current pound for pound guy? Miranda was in there with Pavlik?

In boxing because a fighter holds a title he is not necessarily better than one who doesn't. Case and Point Charley Burley ans Sam Langford.

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Originally Posted by hitmandonny

As Mayorga comes to the end of his career, how can you compare his career to Miranda's who is relatively young and getting started?

Mayorga took beatings from De la Hoya and Trinidad, Had Miranda met Trinidad and Oscar at that time in their careers p4p there is a strong possibility that Miranda would have beaten them.

When has Mayorga ever been competitive with a man at the top of his division? Miranda broke Abrahams jaw in a good fight. I don't really rate Vernon Forrest.

When has Mayorga ever been in the ring with a current pound for pound guy? Miranda was in there with Pavlik?

In boxing because a fighter holds a title he is not necessarily better than one who doesn't. Case and Point Charley Burley ans Sam Langford.

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First off i normally find you a very good poster Donny but i have to be honest with you, your comment about Miranda *may* of beat ODLH or Tito is ridiculous. I think your forgetting this is the same Miranda who could not beat Abraham despite Abraham's jaw being badly broken. Plus Miranda was also dropped by a 50 percent Allen Green, who was uninterested and wasn't even throwing any damn punches. ODLH and Tito even at that stage in there career's where at a much higher level than Miranda can ever dream of getting near.

When has Mayorga ever been competitive with a man at the top of the division ?? Vernon Forrest who was just coming off giving Mosley a beating. And wasn't Mosley P4P number 1 ?? You don't really rate Vernon Forrest but you rate Arthur Abraham ?? that really makes sense. Cory Spinks was also one of the top fighters in Welterweight division when Mayorga fought him, and a lot of people also thought Mayorga got robbed.

I hope you didn't take my comments offensively im just being honest with you i think your way off the mark here.

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Originally Posted by hitmandonny

Miranda has never been dominated the way Mayorga was by Trinidad and De la Hoya.
The arguement that Mayorga decides to slug it disguising his boxing skill is also applicable to Miranda.
Should Miranda focus less on his power I belive he can box quite effectively. Although out hustled, the fight with Abraham showed moments of decent boxing form Miranda, as did the blow out of Banks.

Mayorga however struggeled with Fernado Vargas. A way past it Fernado Vargas. If Mayorga could box that competently, he wouldn't have chosen to slug it out with Vargas at a higher weight than he was comfortable as we've all seen Vargas out boxed by both De la Hoya and Mosely.

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You're seeing what you want to see and ignoring what you don't. Mayorga downed Trinidad and rocked De La Hoya. Miranda at no point in the fight had anything for Pavlik. Mayorga struggled with Vargas at a weight far above anything he'd ever fought at. He said himself he never wanted to see 168 again. And guess what else? He won the fight.

Miranda after the Pavlik fight was typical boxer-who'd-just-been-beaten talk. He was weight drained, camp didn't go right, things didn't click in the fight like they did in camp, his dog died-CRAP. Pavlik and his people are excellent at seeing exactly what a fighter's weaknesses are. Miranda didn't know what to do when someone came straight at him and made him back up and his punches didn't have their usual pop because he was constantly on his heels.

The argument is moot, regardless. Trying to parse out whose better between two club fighters like Mayorga and Miranda is like trying to determine between ass herpes and staphylococcus of the balls which is the worse disease. Edison Miranda will be beaten pillar to post if he steps in with Mikkel Kessler. Kessler will reign as the SMW champ and in short order.

Dan Rafael from ESPN stated today, that the deal is done, and it will be May 10th, on Showtime.

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Originally Posted by DGs_Diane

Dan Rafael from ESPN stated today, that the deal is done, and it will be May 10th, on Showtime.

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Somebody get the Puerto Rican flag and the body bag ready...

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Originally Posted by OumaFan

Miranda should be just about right for Kessler but it will be interesting to see how he approaches it. Miranda obviously can't fight for shit when he's getting backed up but I'm not sure if that will be Kessler's plan. Either way he should win, just the much better fighter.

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I don't think Kessler will try to back up Miranda like Pavlik did, I think it's more likely that he'll just outbox him, set traps, and let Miranda walk into right hands all night.

Does anyone know where the fight is going to take place? I heard Kessler was done boxing... glad to hear that seemingly that is not the case.

Its ridiculous in the 1st place to compare Mayorga and Miranda and how the hell they would do against ODLH and Trinidad.. Miranda is 168 lbs for chrise sakes!!!

Forrest beat Shane good the 1st time with a little help from a Head Butt and the 2nd fight was hardly anything that resembles a beating so lets debunk that exaggeration... Mayorga is shiit always has been always will be he is slow and winds his punches up and uses his face as a catchers mitt.. Got a chin from hell though;D

Miranda was struggling to make 160 and besides Pavlik kicking his ass and backing him up Clearly Edison was drained and lethargic albeit he got tore up like Britneys cooch he was drained.. Miranda is a big strong motherfwocker and 168 suits him perfectly and will give a good account of himself even if he gets outboxed by a technically superior Kessler

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Originally Posted by DGs_Diane

Dan Rafael from ESPN stated today, that the deal is done, and it will be May 10th, on Showtime.

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On the ESPN website it says May 24th. ESPN - Miranda, Kessler agree to meet in 168-pound bout - Boxing

So it says on Maxboxing by the way.

However promoter Bettina Palle said today that nothing is signed yet, although she confirmed the fight is close to being a reality. My guess is it will be finalised in the next few days (i.e. after the Palle-card tonight has taken place).

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Originally Posted by JT Rock

Its ridiculous in the 1st place to compare Mayorga and Miranda and how the hell they would do against ODLH and Trinidad.. Miranda is 168 lbs for chrise sakes!!!

Forrest beat Shane good the 1st time with a little help from a Head Butt and the 2nd fight was hardly anything that resembles a beating so lets debunk that exaggeration... Mayorga is shiit always has been always will be he is slow and winds his punches up and uses his face as a catchers mitt.. Got a chin from hell though;D

Miranda was struggling to make 160 and besides Pavlik kicking his ass and backing him up Clearly Edison was drained and lethargic albeit he got tore up like Britneys cooch he was drained.. Miranda is a big strong motherfwocker and 168 suits him perfectly and will give a good account of himself even if he gets outboxed by a technically superior Kessler

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I think you're a wee bit confused. Nobody was comparing Mayorga or Miranda to ODLH or Trinidad. They were being compared to one another and Mayorga is the one who fought Trinidad and ODLH. You do know Mayorga isn't staying at 168, right? I was calling both of them club fighters, of which Mayorga is the better of the two.

Miranda will give a good accounting of himself until he gets blasted out again by a superior opponent. That crap he said about the L against Pavlik was just that-crap. Notice he didn't call Kelly out to stay at 168 so he could avenge himself. The same thing would happen. The real question is what's Miranda going to say after he gets his head handed to him a 2nd time?

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Originally Posted by Mikkel_K

On the ESPN website it says May 24th. ESPN - Miranda, Kessler agree to meet in 168-pound bout - Boxing

So it says on Maxboxing by the way.

However promoter Bettina Palle said today that nothing is signed yet, although she confirmed the fight is close to being a reality. My guess is it will be finalised in the next few days (i.e. after the Palle-card tonight has taken place).

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Well then Dan mis-reported the date in his chat, because in his live chat today he said May 10th, and that's were I got the info from. So I'll blame it on Dan. :)

I skipped over the whole Miranda, Mayorga argument.

But I have to give a ton of credit to Miranda for always looking at the top guys. Always trying to get big fights. He's been in against seriously dangerous fighters and not matched against tons of easy fights. He's a throwback, and I like his attitude in taking the best.

Credit to Kessler also. Not a stepping stone comeback fight, in against a real dangerous and hungry fighter. This is a great fight.

I think Miranda by TKO.

Kessler will turn his ass into mince meat

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Originally Posted by DGs_Diane

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Originally Posted by Mikkel_K

On the ESPN website it says May 24th. ESPN - Miranda, Kessler agree to meet in 168-pound bout - Boxing

So it says on Maxboxing by the way.

However promoter Bettina Palle said today that nothing is signed yet, although she confirmed the fight is close to being a reality. My guess is it will be finalised in the next few days (i.e. after the Palle-card tonight has taken place).

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Well then Dan mis-reported the date in his chat, because in his live chat today he said May 10th, and that's were I got the info from. So I'll blame it on Dan. :)

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Well, thanks for the info btw!

I haven't been able to post in this thread before today, but the Palle-camp said to Danish medias a few days ago (before this thread) that they were negotiating. At that time it was being said that HBO (and yes, it said HBO) wanted the fight for May 10, but Palle/Kessler preferred June. I guess May 24th is a compromise :) But again, nothing seem to be signed.

Also, in the article from tuesday evening with Palle confirming the negotiations, it was being said that Kessler is an attractive opponent, and that he had also just received an offer to fight in England. That sentence left me wondering, but after Inkin later pulled out, I guess it made a lot more sense.

Oh, and on the Palle card tonight Anders Hugger won an UD, although it might not have been deserved. But since I like Hugger, and since I put him down for an UD in the Prediction Contest, I like this result!

No wonder Miranda turned a WBC Elimenator against Froch down after Inkin pulled out this week.

Kessler is too polished for Miranda. No disrespect to Miranda, He is a banger but he doesn't have the ring generalship that Kessler has. Kessler will systematically break him down. I think it will be a late one sided stoppage for Kessler. I am gonna say between round(s) 9-11 Kessler will drop the hammer on Miranda. I may have went with Kessler by TOTALLY one sided dec... but Kessler has something to prove now and unfortunately it's Miranda who's been doing alot of talking.

Glad to hear it's almost on!

..and this shows that Kessler want the big ones, the last date I read was the 24 of may.

Hope it will generate a lot of interrest in the US to we could have a Pavlik-Kessler fight later on....

go Kessler ;)