Re: Kesler Vs Froch.Who would win?
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Tam Seddon
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Tam Seddon
Well it doesnt sound like a lot impresses you mate ;) but these two are really pushing to get that number 1 spot in the weight class and really have a good chance of doing it. Kessler is good, im not taking that away from him, but this was carls year for stepping up and its gone a bit tits up so far. We will just have to hope he gets a decent next fight and hopefully we can see more of him so he can impress you more ;)
I should also say that it's not that Froch hasn't shown impressive power and ability, because in many of his fights he has. It's just that I'm not sold on him as a fighter who will become a dominant force in the division. As a prospect, I would rate him quite highly, especially if he can work on his defense.
fair enough for thinking this, but all I can say is just keep watching and he will keep impressing, hes getting better every fight and I feel that 2008 is going to be a very good year for Carl.
As I keep watching, Fraud keeps getting older. He needs to make his move now
Re: Kesler Vs Froch.Who would win?
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Its a fight that could happen in the next few years.
Its a hard one to pick because we have never seen Froch really tested yet.
What do you think?
At this time Kessler for me. Froch is great coming forward and has neraly all the tools, but his defence is awful and he will get tagged at some point soon
I agree with you totally. His chin is Ok but not world class and his offense is his defense. I think Kessler could knock him out. Kessler got to Calzaghe at times and hurt him. I think Kessler and definitely Miranda with his loopiong overhand rights could beat Froch.
Re: Kesler Vs Froch.Who would win?
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BIG H
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porkypara
Its a fight that could happen in the next few years.
Its a hard one to pick because we have never seen Froch really tested yet.
What do you think?
At this time Kessler for me. Froch is great coming forward and has neraly all the tools, but his defence is awful and he will get tagged at some point soon
I agree with you totally. His chin is Ok but not world class and his offense is his defense. I think Kessler could knock him out. Kessler got to Calzaghe at times and hurt him. I think Kessler and definitely Miranda with his loopiong overhand rights could beat Froch.
Miranda on his day could own that division, even with JC in it.
Hardest hitter at 168 when he wants to be, though a suspect chin is still to be proven.
Froch-kessler sure would be an awesome fight - would pretty much come down to whether mikkel has it in him to walk through frochs best shots in order to win the fight.
At this present time id say yes
kessler by 10/11th round stoppage
Re: Kesler Vs Froch.Who would win?
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I should also say that it's not that Froch hasn't shown impressive power and ability, because in many of his fights he has. It's just that I'm not sold on him as a fighter who will become a dominant force in the division. As a prospect, I would rate him quite highly, especially if he can work on his defense.
fair enough for thinking this, but all I can say is just keep watching and he will keep impressing, hes getting better every fight and I feel that 2008 is going to be a very good year for Carl.
As I keep watching, Fraud keeps getting older. He needs to make his move now
And he is trying to but Inkin pulled out didnt he? That was a good move IMO, taking out one of the top 5 ranked fighters. But although hes getting older doesnt mean he still cant improve, I feel that with age carl has been getting better so age isnt really too much. Look at BHOP, he is over 40 and pretty much at the top of his game. I still dont understand why you think hes a fraud though? its not like he has lost the fight or anything, so calling him a fraud is beyond me. If he was an American fighter I dont think you would call him Fraud and you would probably back him to be JC.
Re: Kesler Vs Froch.Who would win?
I wouldnt call Froch a fraud,he has a very big punch so you have to give him a chance against anyone but i feel if he faces Kessler he will fall short.I think he will become world champion but not if he faces Kessler.
Shame Inkin never had the balls to face him,and instead just messed Froch about.
Re: Kesler Vs Froch.Who would win?
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But Froch cant half bang. Did you see the Maggee KO, that was lethal, if ANYBODY got caught with a right uppercut from him they will take a backwards step. Thats why I think the fight will open up because its not Kessler nature to step down. I think it would be very intresting...
That punch was a peach.
I'd love to see Froch v Kesler.
Who would win?
At this minute Kesler just.
Re: Kesler Vs Froch.Who would win?
I consider myself the biggest Kess fan here and have followed the guy from early on. A few months back I would have said Kess without a doubt BUT I'm starting to wonder now.
For starters the lay off can't be good
The fight making is all wrong
Honestly man, I wanna say Kess but now I'm not too sure how all this will pan out. :-\ I just hope he fights soon and he has a good showing....
Re: Kesler Vs Froch.Who would win?
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I consider myself the biggest Kess fan here and have followed the guy from early on. A few months back I would have said Kess without a doubt BUT I'm starting to wonder now.
For starters the lay off can't be good
The fight making is all wrong
Honestly man, I wanna say Kess but now I'm not too sure how all this will pan out. :-\ I just hope he fights soon and he has a good showing....
Still say Kess . He can do everything Froch does and more.
Mikkel will find it extremely difficult to miss Frochs jaw everytime he throws a punch .
Re: Kesler Vs Froch.Who would win?
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CutMeMick
I consider myself the biggest Kess fan here and have followed the guy from early on. A few months back I would have said Kess without a doubt BUT I'm starting to wonder now.
For starters the lay off can't be good
The fight making is all wrong
Honestly man, I wanna say Kess but now I'm not too sure how all this will pan out. :-\ I just hope he fights soon and he has a good showing....
Still say Kess . He can do everything Froch does and more.
Mikkel will find it extremely difficult to miss Frochs jaw everytime he throws a punch .
I agree skillwise Kess is better but my view here is the time off, injury etc. etc. when you weigh it out the negatives are more then the positives...
That's all I'm saying.
Re: Kesler Vs Froch.Who would win?
I'd still favor Kessler to beat any fighter who is currently at 168. He does need to quit being a drama queen and get back in the ring, though.
Re: Kesler Vs Froch.Who would win?
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I'd still favor Kessler to beat any fighter who is currently at 168. He does need to quit being a drama queen and get back in the ring, though.
It seems like the loss to Calzaghe has really affected Kessler in a bad way. There are a lot of positives to take out of that fight for Kessler, he just needs to get back in the mix asap.
Re: Kesler Vs Froch.Who would win?
If kessler gets back on form, then id say kessler to beat froch.
An on form kessler will take froch out, possibly by tko.
But fuk knows when hes getting back in the ring and what he'll be like after such a long lay off.
I guess he was so shocked after the calzaghe fight. Hes a great boxer, did everything perfectly by the book...but you cant fight by the book against calzaghe. Hopkins basically threw the book in the bin and used all the dirty tactics that the book doesnt allow, yet he still lost...the defeat has seemed to drain kessler...but we'll know by his next fight i guess.
Wouldnt be nice to see the same thing happen to him as what happened to lacy after calzaghe battered lacy.
Re: Kesler Vs Froch.Who would win?
Kessler has been off 7 months and is figthing next montg. Sure it is long, but it isn't really spectacular, is it?
For starters there was 8 months between the Andrade and the Calzaghe fight. 9 months between the Lucas and the Beyer fight. And basically 5-6 months between the rest of his recent fights.
No, I'm not saying this is a good thing. I'd love to see him in the ring more and I think he takes too much time off. But there isn't really any hint that this layoff should be much worse than previous layoffs - as people here seem to be suggesting.
In short: Kessler will still toy with Froch.
Edited: Just one more thing - Frochs layoffs (although recently not really his own fault) is not really that much shorter than Kessler's. In fact they both fought in October/November 06, March 07, November 07 and are yet to fight in 2008. Admittedly there will be one month less between Froch's fights - but how big a deal is that?
