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Bad,for good or for ill he's a legitimate star
For me it's both bad and good... doesn't matter really...
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The Funny thing id no one wanted the Floyd Dela hoya fight and now you won't get it so be happy!
I think Floyd said the same thing too... as he was running for the door.Quote:
Originally Posted by Taeth
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Pissed at Floyd that he'd walk away from a potential Cotto fight, but much like De la Hoya will never be able to forgive himself for giving the last three rounds to Trinidad, I don't think Cotto will ever be able to forgive himself for not aggressively calling out Floyd.
It's not Cotto's style, Match. Better to let people form their own opinions. Sooner or later, Floyd's going to get fed up with the "chicken" jokes (or not), and come back to face Cotto (or Margarito, should he win).Quote:
Originally Posted by match
One thing I will say: The percentage of people still claiming that Floyd isn't scared of facing Cotto has probably dwindled to a scattered few (including Floyd's immediate family).
Stop with this style nonsense. It wasn't Hatton's style either, but he did what he knew he had to do to make the fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanIt's not Cotto's style, Match. Better to let people form their own opinions. Sooner or later, Floyd's going to get fed up with the "chicken" jokes (or not), and come back to face Cotto (or Margarito, should he win).Quote:
Originally Posted by match
One thing I will say: The percentage of people still claiming that Floyd isn't scared of facing Cotto has probably dwindled to a scattered few (including Floyd's immediate family).
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Originally Posted by matchStop with this style nonsense. It wasn't Hatton's style either, but he did what he knew he had to do to make the fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanQuote:
Originally Posted by match
It's not Cotto's style, Match. Better to let people form their own opinions. Sooner or later, Floyd's going to get fed up with the "chicken" jokes (or not), and come back to face Cotto (or Margarito, should he win).
One thing I will say: The percentage of people still claiming that Floyd isn't scared of facing Cotto has probably dwindled to a scattered few (including Floyd's immediate family).
Hey... let the fighters fight and the promoters promote, bub. What makes Cotto such a universally liked fighter is that THAT's what he does. Fight.
For some reason I find I don't care that much :confused: Maybe its because I don't really believe it. If so he was a great fighter.
This calling out thing is overrated, Floyd made a fight with Hatton cause it was a big money fight that he was most likely going to win, not because Hatton called him out. If he had stayed around he probably would have fought Cotto as well.
And what's gonna cause him to not be able to sleep for the rest of his life is that he didn't directly call out Floyd, bub.Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanQuote:
Originally Posted by matchStop with this style nonsense. It wasn't Hatton's style either, but he did what he knew he had to do to make the fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFan
Hey... let the fighters fight and the promoters promote, bub. What makes Cotto such a universally liked fighter is that THAT's what he does. Fight.
Default? Woohoo! The two sweetest words in the English language!.Quote:
Originally Posted by AJ BanalLol! ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by leftylee
By default,.. YES HE IS.
I'm not really a Pac fan, but I agree that he slides in to the p4p #1 position now.
As for Floyd, if he doesn't have the passion/fire/whatever, then there's no reason to continue fighting, he'd only get hurt. I would have loved to see him fight Cotto, I think he would've won, but if he doesn't want to fight anymore it's his call. Like him or not (and I do not), he'll go down as the best fighter of his generation.
If this is all a publicity stunt though, he can go fuck himself.
Besides, look where THAT got him. hahahaQuote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanQuote:
Originally Posted by matchStop with this style nonsense. It wasn't Hatton's style either, but he did what he knew he had to do to make the fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFan
Hey... let the fighters fight and the promoters promote, bub. What makes Cotto such a universally liked fighter is that THAT's what he does. Fight.
If you're gonna call out a fighter, you better bring the goods.
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Originally Posted by matchAnd what's gonna cause him to not be able to sleep for the rest of his life is that he didn't directly call out Floyd, bub.Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanQuote:
Originally Posted by match
Hey... let the fighters fight and the promoters promote, bub. What makes Cotto such a universally liked fighter is that THAT's what he does. Fight.
Seriously?
Listen, I understand that you 12-year olds have grown up with the mentality that boxers should be calling each other out, like WWF wrestlers do. But in the history of boxing, many ATG fighters have gotten where they are without resorting to calling fighters out, or trash-talking, or threatening to eat each other's children.Quote:
Originally Posted by matchAnd what's gonna cause him to not be able to sleep for the rest of his life is that he didn't directly call out Floyd, bub.Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanQuote:
Originally Posted by match
Hey... let the fighters fight and the promoters promote, bub. What makes Cotto such a universally liked fighter is that THAT's what he does. Fight.
Did I say 12?Quote:
Originally Posted by OumaFan;DQuote:
Originally Posted by matchAnd what's gonna cause him to not be able to sleep for the rest of his life is that he didn't directly call out Floyd, bub.Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFan
Seriously?
I'm sorry.... I meant 8.
That's true, but many champions were not as stubborn as Floyd Mayweather. What part of that don't you get Einstein?Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanListen, I understand that you 12-year olds have grown up with the mentality that boxers should be calling each other out, like WWF wrestlers do. But in the history of boxing, many ATG fighters have gotten where they are without resorting to calling fighters out, or trash-talking, or threatening to eat each other's children.Quote:
Originally Posted by matchAnd what's gonna cause him to not be able to sleep for the rest of his life is that he didn't directly call out Floyd, bub.Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFan
I'm sure he'll be fine. He can always wipe away the tears with hundred dollar bills.Quote:
Originally Posted by matchAnd what's gonna cause him to not be able to sleep for the rest of his life is that he didn't directly call out Floyd, bub.Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanQuote:
Originally Posted by match
Hey... let the fighters fight and the promoters promote, bub. What makes Cotto such a universally liked fighter is that THAT's what he does. Fight.
Hmm... maybe if I say it slower.Quote:
Originally Posted by matchThat's true, but many champions were not as stubborn as Floyd Mayweather. What part of that don't you get Einstein?Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanListen, I understand that you 12-year olds have grown up with the mentality that boxers should be calling each other out, like WWF wrestlers do. But in the history of boxing, many ATG fighters have gotten where they are without resorting to calling fighters out, or trash-talking, or threatening to eat each other's children.Quote:
Originally Posted by match
T-h-a-t's w-h-a-t t-h-e p-r-o-m-o-t-e-r-s
a-r-e f-o-r.
Good talking to you kid (not).
Now run along and get your diaper changed.
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I guess I'll say it again since you're obviously not able to comprehend. Floyd no longer fights based on who your promoter is. He fights based on if he's felt disrespected. I don't seem to recall Frank Warren landing Hatton the fight. I kind of remember Hatton landing the fight, and also, in case you're illiterate, you'll notice that my first post in this thread was saying I'm ONLY pissed at Floyd, and Cotto will simply regret not calling him out. You'll also notice from previous posts that I think Cotto is the only one with a shot to beat Floyd. So do the board a favor and remove Miguel's penis from your sphincter. I'm through with you cyber tough guy:)Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanHmm... maybe if I say it slower.Quote:
Originally Posted by matchThat's true, but many champions were not as stubborn as Floyd Mayweather. What part of that don't you get Einstein?Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFan
T-h-a-t's w-h-a-t t-h-e p-r-o-m-o-t-e-r-s
a-r-e f-o-r.
LOLQuote:
Originally Posted by matchI guess I'll say it again since you're obviously not able to comprehend. Floyd no longer fights based on who your promoter is. He fights based on if he's felt disrespected. I don't seem to recall Frank Warren landing Hatton the fight. I kind of remember Hatton landing the fight, and also, in case you're illiterate, you'll notice that my first post in this thread was saying I'm ONLY pissed at Floyd, and Cotto will simply regret not calling him out. You'll also notice from previous posts that I think Cotto is the only one with a shot to beat Floyd. So do the board a favor and remove Miguel's penis from your sphincter. I'm through with you cyber tough guy:)Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanHmm... maybe if I say it slower.Quote:
Originally Posted by match
T-h-a-t's w-h-a-t t-h-e p-r-o-m-o-t-e-r-s
a-r-e f-o-r.
Floyd fights for what almost all boxers fight, the money.
Margarito called out Floyd, Hatton called out Floyd. Floyd responded to Hatton calling him out differently cause it was a bigger fight. Floyd dictates who Floyd fights, he doesn't let other people dictate what he does, he doesn't respond to everyone who calls him out.
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Originally Posted by TitoFanListen, I understand that you 12-year olds have grown up with the mentality that boxers should be calling each other out, like WWF wrestlers do. But in the history of boxing, many ATG fighters have gotten where they are without resorting to calling fighters out, or trash-talking, or threatening to eat each other's children.Quote:
Originally Posted by matchAnd what's gonna cause him to not be able to sleep for the rest of his life is that he didn't directly call out Floyd, bub.Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFan
Exactly! Why should Cotto have to bad mouth Floyd, and in effect,suck up to him? Cotto is his own man. Floyd knows where he is. And to fight Cotto, you don't need to do anything other than contact Top Rank. THAT'S a REAL fighter.
When? When did Margarito diss him? Look, I understand what your saying, Floyd dictates who he fights and wants money, but if you have your promoter out their talking for you (Margarito/Arum), that's hardly disrespectful. Hatton dissed him in front of the world, and Ricky did not lose a single fan when he did it. If all it takes to land a fight with the guy is to do that, why would you possibly not even try it just once?Quote:
Originally Posted by OumaFanLOLQuote:
Originally Posted by matchI guess I'll say it again since you're obviously not able to comprehend. Floyd no longer fights based on who your promoter is. He fights based on if he's felt disrespected. I don't seem to recall Frank Warren landing Hatton the fight. I kind of remember Hatton landing the fight, and also, in case you're illiterate, you'll notice that my first post in this thread was saying I'm ONLY pissed at Floyd, and Cotto will simply regret not calling him out. You'll also notice from previous posts that I think Cotto is the only one with a shot to beat Floyd. So do the board a favor and remove Miguel's penis from your sphincter. I'm through with you cyber tough guy:)Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFan
Floyd fights for what almost all boxers fight, the money.
Margarito called out Floyd, Hatton called out Floyd. Floyd responded to Hatton calling him out differently cause it was a bigger fight. Floyd dictates who Floyd fights, he doesn't let other people dictate what he does, he doesn't respond to everyone who calls him out.
Match you should do some research. Maybe watch the video of Margarito confronting Floyd at a conference and Floyd crapping his pants. Maybe Margarito openly calling Floyd a "Maricon" in interviews. Hey,if that's not calling out, I don't know what is.
And I think you'll find Hatton being a small WW with 1 contraversial win at WW and easy $$$ was also a reason Floyd wanted to fight him. Hatton at 140,is the man.147,he's a kid,a contender.
Margarito and Arum both called out Floyd a lot. I don't remember every specific line cause it was a couple years ago but I remember clearly him saying (I think to Roger Mayweather but it was about Floyd) that he'd do to Floyd what Chavez did to Roger Mayweather. There were others but that I remember specifically.
Floyd feeling disrespected is nowhere near the top of the list, it is a business to Floyd, plain and simple. Floyd jumped out on Hatton's calling him out because he thought the fight was a good idea business wise, if he hadn't he would have just ignored it and the fight would have most likely ended up being made anyway.
Its a business pure and simple. If you wanted to you could make the case that Cotto calling him out might help slightly in making a fight (its debatable) but it would not be the reason why Floyd went ahead with the fight.
Hey then that's my bad, I didn't know that and Floyd is a p@ssy for not fighting him then. But Cotto is more like Hatton than Margarito in that there is an overwealming number of people who want to see that fight made and each have huge fan bases.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Gamo
I'm still waiting on the headlines. "Floyd Found Dead: Inside sources say he was attempting self-fellatio when the accident occured..."
:-X
If it's true and permanent then it's a sad day for boxing, but not disastrous. Many theories abounds about this and I tend to believe the one where the thinking is that they let Oscar fight the winner of Marg-Cott, hoping Hoya has enough left to get the decision therefore legitimising a genuinely lucrative rematch. Of course if that is true, it could spectacularly backfire if Cotto beats Marg, and then de la Hoya more convincing than Floyd did, since Cotto says he doesn't give a shit about Floyd it would give Miguel the upper hand in any future negotiations.
Either way, Floyd's incredible talent will go down in history.
Hahah;D Good point. I believe it when he starts walking around at 200lbs with a cigar in his mouth all dayQuote:
Originally Posted by yvonne
Im betting Floyd is going to be walking around at about 150 for the next few years ;) This is just some ploy.
I voted GOOD. Don't get me wrong, I always hate to hear when a pro boxer retires like this, even if he's not all that old. But he said himself that it got to where it was mainly for the money (although that's not altogether a bad reason) and being a celebrity, and that he just lost his passion for boxing. If a fighter loses his passion for the sport, it's all over. If you have no passion, you probably won't train as hard and will end up getting dominated.
So I'm glad for him and I hope he enjoys his retirement. :)
I voted good because he should retire he is a 6 time world champ a 5 weight world champ he has had 20 odd world title fights against top fighters.He has nothing left to prove not even against Cotto because if he fought and beat Cotto then their would be someone else to fight and so on and so on.Also Oscar can't make anymore money off his back Floyd has had a great career and to retire a 6 time world champ at 5 different weights number 1 Welterweight in the world and number 1 P4P fighter in the world is a great thing for any fighter to do he will definately go down in top 15 fighters of all time surely. GOOD LUCK Floyd with the rest of your life.
i voted "I don't care." You can't believe anything Floyd says. It would just be more bullshit. He is just sad that Cotto-Margarito is in the press so much so being a narcissistic psycho I suspect he is, he announced his retrirement.
It's bullshit posturing, but come on it's getting old. If he really does stay retired then good on him for leaving when he wants not when the public thinks its ok. I really think this may be his 2 year layoff to let the dangerous foghters take each other out.
I voted "I don't Care". It's hard to believe anything PBF says and given his past efforts this can't be taken seriously. But whether he's serious or not i'm just sick of all his crap and carrying on. I wish he'd just shut up and fight or start taking his ADHD medication.
Wouldn't it be nice if Floyd was seeing the backlash of a fight with Oscar so he retires until the winner of Margarito and Cotto happens and then he comes out of retirement for one more match.
The whole "is this a changing of the guard" situation would be a major fight seller for Floyd Mayweather's "last" match.
But I highly seriously doubt that if Floyd Mayweather is truly retiring that Cotto or Margarito don't have anything to do with it. If he just doesn't want to box anymore and has no more desire to do so then let him retire and have a life outside of boxing, its not his fault that he wasn't truly appreciated. It was always "one more match" when Floyd ever shut one critic up.