To Me IF Floyd is Retired Joe Calzaghe is PFP#1

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Originally Posted by amat

I think P4P is based a lot of talent in which case, I can't make Calzaghe number 1. That would be saying he's the most talented fighter in the world essentially, and that's just not true. I think he's very beatable and Hopkins pretty much proved that. It's not like his record jumps out either I mean he has 3 really good wins and a ton of fights that ranged from meaning little to being somewhat impressive.

I would go so far that if Cotto were to beat Margarito convincingly, that I would put Pac at 1 and Cotto at 2. Cotto's resume is pretty much just as good as Calzaghe's imo.

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Cotto's resume is certainly a lot more impressive than Calzaghe's, when you take into account how far he is in his career and the number of quality fighters on his resume. I also personally think he is a better p4p fighter these days for many reaons, no doubt.

Pacman is the number 1 now.

After counting those who have voted for Pac and Cal, Pac wins the p4p title.

The debate should be, who's to be second? Cal or Cotto?

Yeah with Floyds retirement I guess this makes Calzaghe the worlds premiere fighter

either Joe Calzaghe, cotto, or pac man r next in line...

Right now, Ring Mag #1 p4p should be blank.


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2. Manny Pacquiao

3. Joe Calzaghe


I'm one of those people who thinks PBF's retirement is just a hoax. If PBF doesn't get busy (zero fight this year) and Manny keeps winning, then that should be enough reason to kick him out of his throne.

Joe Calzaghe remains behind Pac, not unless he beats both RJJr and Kelly Pavlik.

I always thought PFP#1 was based on current ability, not your entire fight career.
Going off what I have seen off Calzaghes current abaility, he surely lacks the power to be PFP#1 seeing as he incapable of knocking anyone out higher than Manfredos class level.

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Originally Posted by richard (mossley)

I always thought PFP#1 was based on current ability, not your entire fight career.
Going off what I have seen off Calzaghes current abaility, he surely lacks the power to be PFP#1 seeing as he incapable of knocking anyone out higher than Manfredos class level.

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I would argue however that he does possess the ability to outbox anyone in the game at the minute.

This is a completely unbiased choice. Since everybody knows I don't give a damn about no Pacqiuao or Calzaghe. But with Floyd out the way, Pac is number 1. I got Calzaghe at number 5.

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Originally Posted by Violent Demise

This is a completely unbiased choice. Since everybody knows I don't give a damn about no Pacqiuao or Calzaghe. But with Floyd out the way, Pac is number 1. I got Calzaghe at number 5.

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Hahaha! This is without a doubt the most unbiased answer in all of Saddo!!

Pac has to fit in as number 1 shirley?! well hes my pick anyway....Calzaghe will be well in the top 3 with PBF gone, but not quite there yet!

But in all seriousness, Pacquiao has been #2 p4p behind Floyd for how long now. Floyd retires then for some reason people think Calzaghe is #1?! Joes beating Hopkins was not that great of a feat.

Let Joe fight Pavlik and watch him drop down the p4p list..

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Originally Posted by Pacstraightleft

Right now, Ring Mag #1 p4p should be blank.
I'm one of those people who thinks PBF's retirement is just a hoax. If PBF doesn't get busy (zero fight this year) and Manny keeps winning, then that should be enough reason to kick him out of his throne.

Joe Calzaghe remains behind Pac, not unless he beats both RJJr and Kelly Pavlik.

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Ya, I put the chances of Floyd fighting again at about 95%.

Instead of a retirement, I think this is really just "I don't feel like fighting right now." He'll be back at some point.

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Originally Posted by Violent Demise

This is a completely unbiased choice. Since everybody knows I don't give a damn about no Pacqiuao or Calzaghe. But with Floyd out the way, Pac is number 1. I got Calzaghe at number 5.

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Okay. You'll have my reps for that VD. :cool: