Just heard that Calzaghe has split with Warren?

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Originally Posted by Mar

I don't think joe beats pavlik either.....but all your rep points, you should save a couple.......:laugh: just in case

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I dont need to save any, kelly would destroy calzaghe.

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Originally Posted by leftylee

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Originally Posted by Mar

I don't think joe beats pavlik either.....but all your rep points, you should save a couple.......:laugh: just in case

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I dont need to save any, kelly would destroy calzaghe.

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See that is where you lose it a little. Calzaghe is very good and deserves a little respect. Calzaghe is not Edison Miranda nor Jermaine Taylor. He is a little league beyond that. Pavlik is a very good pressure fighter but Calzaghe gets off on that.

Anyways, lets just see what actually happens with Calzaghe over the following weeks.

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Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing

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Originally Posted by Mikkel_K

My guess is he will not be (legally) committed to his Setanta deal anymore, which is why I am wondering whether this is not merely a ploy to get more money out of the Roy Jones fight. Now Sky PPV could be an option for example.

Sort of same thing happened with Kessler-Andrade, where Palle's good friend (former boxer) Hans Henrik Palm suddenly won the purse offer, having never staged a show before or after. This way they were free to offer it as ppv, despite Palle's stable being contractually bound to a (free, third rate) tv-channel.

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I think this is right. Setanta is a nice deal for Warren, not Joe. Hatton made a bundle from Sky ppv for his last two fights and Joe wants some of that too. I'm still not convinced the Jones fight is going to be ppv in the US because they originally said the same thing about the Hopkins fight, but there's a nice big ppv revenue stream there in the UK to be had for certain. IIRC Hatton got to keep 100% of the Sky money from the Mayweather fight too.

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I'm a big joe fan, but there's no way I'm PPViewing a jonesJr fight, I'm sure a lot of fans think the same.

Well good for Joe now that he's exposed to the US he should have no problem negotiating fights over here.
Plus it's better this way then having to share profit with a manager. ;)

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Originally Posted by ICB

I disagree i think Calzaghe looked like a fighter on his way out against Hopkins, his jab wern't snappy and his combo's wern't as fast and they just didn't look like the same combo's that battered Lacy all around the ring, i think Calzaghe might actually be there for the taking against a young powerhouse like Pavlik, remember Hopkins hasn't been noted as a big puncher in quite some time, yet he manged to stun Calzaghe on numerous occasion's and even floored him with those straight right hands, then i come to thinking what if it was Pavlik hitting Calzaghe with those straight right hands how would Calzaghe cope with that ??

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We'll have to disagree then.

No one looks "snappy" against Hopkins...no one.

Take a look back @ how ineffective Winky was against Bernard...he's never looked that bad...NEVER.

As far as that goes...take a look back @ Calzaghe against Kessler. Joe was effective & he was also aggressive throughout the fight. Calzaghe always takes a few rounds to get crankin'.

That being said...I made the exact statement a few days ago regarding Hopkins dropping Joe & that it would be an issue facing a heavy hitter like Pavlik. Hopkins is very surgical with his shots...it showed against Taylor in their first bout & towards the end of either the 9th or 10th round Hopkins had him out on his feet but refused (for some odd reason) to press the issue. The thing is...it was a flash knockdown for Joe & he's had several of those throughout his career...& he soldiers through for the win.

Whether or not he could do so with "Heavy Hands Kelly" is a totally different matter...just like whether or not Kelly could handle Joe's volume & awkward style .

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Originally Posted by the wiz

If Calzaghe ends up fighting one more fight and that fight is Jones then I think that's just pathetic. I wouldn't mind him taking a payday then fighting Pavlik. But Roy Jones, Jr? Really? What the hell has Roy done? Beaten an old man in Trinidad and now he's back in the mix? He's not even a top tier Lt Heavy.

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Pathetic or not...well that's a matter of opinion.

Joe's an undefeated fighter who's broken records & has made future stars lose their lustre.

Roy's actually done a hell of a lot on the comeback trail...especially considering what he went through with his knockout losses.

Some pretty harsh statements there.

Shame he didn't do it 5 years ago

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Originally Posted by Bomp

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Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing

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Originally Posted by Mikkel_K

My guess is he will not be (legally) committed to his Setanta deal anymore, which is why I am wondering whether this is not merely a ploy to get more money out of the Roy Jones fight. Now Sky PPV could be an option for example.

Sort of same thing happened with Kessler-Andrade, where Palle's good friend (former boxer) Hans Henrik Palm suddenly won the purse offer, having never staged a show before or after. This way they were free to offer it as ppv, despite Palle's stable being contractually bound to a (free, third rate) tv-channel.

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I think this is right. Setanta is a nice deal for Warren, not Joe. Hatton made a bundle from Sky ppv for his last two fights and Joe wants some of that too. I'm still not convinced the Jones fight is going to be ppv in the US because they originally said the same thing about the Hopkins fight, but there's a nice big ppv revenue stream there in the UK to be had for certain. IIRC Hatton got to keep 100% of the Sky money from the Mayweather fight too.

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I'm a big joe fan, but there's no way I'm PPViewing a jonesJr fight, I'm sure a lot of fans think the same.

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A lot more won't though. I hope he makes a bundle from doing it, he deserves it. And you'll probably end up buying it too. When's the next time you're going to see a Welshman in a huge Vegas event rounding off his unbeaten career? :)

It says on fightnews that Calzaghe has split with Warren. He claims he is a free agent and is only interested in fighting Jones, not Pavlik.

Seems a very strange move at this stage in his career, 36 years old with one maybe two fights left. Why not 5 years ago? Maybe he will have more than 1 or 2 more fights?

Anyone got more detailed news on this?

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Originally Posted by eagle

It says on fightnews that Calzaghe has split with Warren. He claims he is a free agent and is only interested in fighting Jones, not Pavlik.

Seems a very strange move at this stage in his career, 36 years old with one maybe two fights left. Why not 5 years ago? Maybe he will have more than 1 or 2 more fights?

Anyone got more detailed news on this?

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I am sort of dissapointed in this news. Another p4p great ducks a young Top Rank fighter.


But I don't blame Calzlappy, I would not fight Kelly Pavlik either ;D

I can still say DUCK!

;D

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Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing

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Originally Posted by Bomp

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Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing

I think this is right. Setanta is a nice deal for Warren, not Joe. Hatton made a bundle from Sky ppv for his last two fights and Joe wants some of that too. I'm still not convinced the Jones fight is going to be ppv in the US because they originally said the same thing about the Hopkins fight, but there's a nice big ppv revenue stream there in the UK to be had for certain. IIRC Hatton got to keep 100% of the Sky money from the Mayweather fight too.

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I'm a big joe fan, but there's no way I'm PPViewing a jonesJr fight, I'm sure a lot of fans think the same.

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A lot more won't though. I hope he makes a bundle from doing it, he deserves it. And you'll probably end up buying it too. When's the next time you're going to see a Welshman in a huge Vegas event rounding off his unbeaten career? :)

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Exactly. This is a fight between the two best SMW's of all time, billed as a farewell fight for Calzaghe. Competitive or not, it surely is huge.

In regard to my previous comment, I wouldn't be surprised to see Warren somehow on the Calzaghe payroll (manager or even better 'consultant') or to find out the split were on very amiable terms. They could be looking at a much larger pot to split this way, wherefore in terms of actual money this might not be so bad even for Warren.

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Originally Posted by Mikkel_K

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Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing

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Originally Posted by Bomp

I'm a big joe fan, but there's no way I'm PPViewing a jonesJr fight, I'm sure a lot of fans think the same.

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A lot more won't though. I hope he makes a bundle from doing it, he deserves it. And you'll probably end up buying it too. When's the next time you're going to see a Welshman in a huge Vegas event rounding off his unbeaten career? :)

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Exactly. This is a fight between the two best SMW's of all time, billed as a farewell fight for Calzaghe. Competitive or not, it surely is huge.

In regard to my previous comment, I wouldn't be surprised to see Warren somehow on the Calzaghe payroll (manager or even better 'consultant') or to find out the split were on very amiable terms. They could be looking at a much larger pot to split this way, wherefore in terms of actual money this might not be so bad even for Warren.

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I'm not against the fight, but I'm already forking out for fucking setanta, bollocks to ppv. I've held fast since Hatton went ppv (only paid for the Mayweather/ Tzyu fights) I'm just set against it since it's been ruining boxing for the past 15 years.

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Originally Posted by Bomp

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Originally Posted by Mikkel_K

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Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing

A lot more won't though. I hope he makes a bundle from doing it, he deserves it. And you'll probably end up buying it too. When's the next time you're going to see a Welshman in a huge Vegas event rounding off his unbeaten career? :)

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Exactly. This is a fight between the two best SMW's of all time, billed as a farewell fight for Calzaghe. Competitive or not, it surely is huge.

In regard to my previous comment, I wouldn't be surprised to see Warren somehow on the Calzaghe payroll (manager or even better 'consultant') or to find out the split were on very amiable terms. They could be looking at a much larger pot to split this way, wherefore in terms of actual money this might not be so bad even for Warren.

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I'm not against the fight, but I'm already forking out for fucking setanta, bollocks to ppv. I've held fast since Hatton went ppv (only paid for the Mayweather/ Tzyu fights) I'm just set against it since it's been ruining boxing for the past 15 years.

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Im in agreement with PPV. People pay plenty for their cable/satellite subscription fees, I wouldnt dream of paying for PPV. There is a difference in boxers/promoters making a good living, and pure greed.

perhaps Warren fancied the Pavlik fight so Joe ran as far and as fast as he could.

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Originally Posted by Mikkel_K

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Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing

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Originally Posted by Bomp

I'm a big joe fan, but there's no way I'm PPViewing a jonesJr fight, I'm sure a lot of fans think the same.

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A lot more won't though. I hope he makes a bundle from doing it, he deserves it. And you'll probably end up buying it too. When's the next time you're going to see a Welshman in a huge Vegas event rounding off his unbeaten career? :)

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Exactly. This is a fight between the two best SMW's of all time, billed as a farewell fight for Calzaghe. Competitive or not, it surely is huge.

In regard to my previous comment, I wouldn't be surprised to see Warren somehow on the Calzaghe payroll (manager or even better 'consultant') or to find out the split were on very amiable terms. They could be looking at a much larger pot to split this way, wherefore in terms of actual money this might not be so bad even for Warren.

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Warren is already saying that Calzaghe is going to get "eaten alive" by Don King when it comes to negotiating the fight contract. I think Joe will just hire Ricky Hatton's lawyer to do it for him.