Does anybody else hate the fanboyism that dominates the boxing talk board?

Fanatic fan boys seem to come out mainly around the big fights Like cockroaches,once the lights turn on and the show is over,they scurry away.It is a boxing forum after all,bound to be some fisticuffs.It's when it goes all button pushing and "hater this,hater that"....like a school yard,that you say why bother.As Caleoh 12 mentioned just look at the aftermath of Pac/Marquez.....that was just insane and pure crap.I actually had a sick feeling watching the front board turn into a giant litter box for many who insisted on defecating all over it.It was all you could do to not become what you disliked in others and start throwing bombs.Pitiful !!

It's when people insist on tearing down fighters,really ANY fighters (except of course:Tarver/Tye fields/Zahir raheem/Butterlard/Christ Martin/John Ruiz/:-X.....ok, I kid.But really when we berate and shred fighters with so much ease and borderline enjoyment in an attempt to enhance a favorite,a real disservice is done to both.Excuses are a dime a dozen and prevalent when things do not go a fighters way.You have to be consistent.Just try this one day,and call me naive....."Hey,I was wrong"!!Nice change of pace sometimes although that certainly would shut down the discussions huh?

Also,the worst are the f!!!!!g Spammers coming out....they should be hunted down and run over with a bus.

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Originally Posted by Bilbo

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Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing

It's not so much fanboyism, it's the England/Europe/US thing, and the other various national battles, Pacman etc. It would be great if people could view the fighters not through a nationalistic prism. The fanboy stuff I can handle.

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Actually most of the outspoken Calzaghe haters, TysonBruno, Dark Lord Al, ICB and LeftyLee are all British.

We are a country of patriots :rolleyes:

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I ain't no Joe Calzaghe hater i just question his record when the topic is brought up, but i have gave him credit many times. Secondly whether a fighter is from the UK or isn't doesn't really matter to me, i either like a fighter or i don't and i don't care where a fighter comes from.

For example i wanted Floyd Mayweather Jr to thrash Ricky Hatton, because i prefer Floyd Mayweather's slick style more than Ricky Hatton's messy hugging brawling style. And i wanted Evander Holyfield to beat Lennox Lewis, because Evander Holyfield got me into boxing, and i liked his exciting style much more Lennox Lewis's jab-fest safety first boring style.

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Originally Posted by ICB

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Originally Posted by Bilbo

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Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing

It's not so much fanboyism, it's the England/Europe/US thing, and the other various national battles, Pacman etc. It would be great if people could view the fighters not through a nationalistic prism. The fanboy stuff I can handle.

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Actually most of the outspoken Calzaghe haters, TysonBruno, Dark Lord Al, ICB and LeftyLee are all British.

We are a country of patriots :rolleyes:

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I ain't no Joe Calzaghe hater i just question his record when the topic is brought up, but i have gave him credit many times. Secondly whether a fighter is from the UK or isn't doesn't really matter to me, i either like a fighter or i don't and i don't care where a fighter comes from.

For example i wanted Floyd Mayweather Jr to thrash Ricky Hatton, because i prefer Floyd Mayweather's slick style more than Ricky Hatton's messy hugging brawling style. And i wanted Evander Holyfield to beat Lennox Lewis, because Evander Holyfield got me into boxing, and i liked his exciting style much more Lennox Lewis's jab-fest safety first boring style.

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Same thing here really. I like a fighter, and thats it. I couldnt care less where they are from. If there is something about their style or even character that I find interesting then that is what gets me into a fighter. Calzaghe is one of my fighters, but James Toney is the other fighter I follow most avidly. Haye is British but I cannot stand the guy.

I hate when posters try to shove a fighter down your throat and wan't to make you like them or agree about their greatness.
Silly shit heads. :D











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Originally Posted by CutMeMick

I hate when posters try to shove a fighter down your throat and wan't to make you like them or agree about their greatness.
Silly shit heads. :D

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I don't know what you mean?
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Originally Posted by Bilbo

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Originally Posted by boozeboxer

I hate your whiny ass threads you have been starting......dating back like SINCE YOU BECAME A MEMBER. What a fag.

What is worse......you want to be a mod and then you have this big ass wimpy thread in the boxing talk board.


In conclusion:

a. You whine too often.
b. You whine in inapporiate places.
c. Your whining is unoriginal and stagnant.

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You know me and you should get on more booze. I'm a whiny, melancholy, grumpy, sullen sod on this board and so are you. We both view others with irritation and disdain, we both grumble about our wretched lives.

The only difference is I at least get laid now and again whilst you get laid never.

But you shouldn't take that out on me. We are kindred spirits booze and you know it.

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I suppose so. But I do get laid. But I don't like the Skank Fairy, so I dish it back at you. :(

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Originally Posted by rjj tszyu

I have to say that I think pretty much everyone on here will probably have a favourite fighter and they will fight their corner all day long.

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Well I quess I am the exception to your post. I have no favorite boxer. I am a Fan of the sport of boxing. I will watch the great fights and the shitty fights.

Boxers come and go. The sport stays.

I don't play the what if, could of been, if this happened games that are played on the main board.

To me, it is all about the fight on the night. Did the fighter I thought would win, win or lose. If I can watch the fight and see the outcome, I know the "Why" of it. Do not have this burning desire to revisit it a thousand times over and over with ,What if's.


But thats just me. :cool:

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Originally Posted by Ghost

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Originally Posted by rjj tszyu

I have to say that I think pretty much everyone on here will probably have a favourite fighter and they will fight their corner all day long.

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Well I quess I am the exception to your post. I have no favorite boxer. I am a Fan of the sport of boxing. I will watch the great fights and the shitty fights.

Boxers come and go. The sport stays.

I don't play the what if, could of been, if this happened games that are played on the main board.

To me, it is all about the fight on the night. Did the fighter I thought would win, win or lose. If I can watch the fight and see the outcome, I know the "Why" of it. Do not have this burning desire to revisit it a thousand times over and over with ,What if's.


But thats just me. :cool:

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Ghost,

Although I sincerely agree that that'd be a great way to see the sport.... I'll never see it that way nor do I see how a human can(though you're not;D you're dead)...

I just don't see how you can't have a favorite in a fight or be slightly bias to another fighter due to whatever attributes...

Like... You never idolized a boxer?

You can not possibly look at each fight as it's own with no bias cuz to do such is impossible...


Ghost, you know I respect you but what you say is simply impossible...


I'm not challenging you it's just simply the truth...

You have or never had "A" favorite boxer?...

Surely you jest, sir;)

Yes i think the guy who calls himself Bilbo , a poor excuse for a grown man , makes some valid points and perhaps the rest of us should all take a leaf from his book, and maybe , just maybe we could all be better posters , producing better threads , but most importantly of all , better people. Dare i say better like Bilbo Baggins and use big words like "fanboyism".
I for one could only hope one day i can better myself and reach those dizzy hights. But i guess the rest of us can dream .


Bilbo Baggins The Man ,The Myth ,the legend .



















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Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al

a poor excuse for a grown man .

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:lolhaha:

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Originally Posted by PRIDE OF BOSTON

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Originally Posted by Ghost

Well I quess I am the exception to your post. I have no favorite boxer. I am a Fan of the sport of boxing. I will watch the great fights and the shitty fights.

Boxers come and go. The sport stays.

I don't play the what if, could of been, if this happened games that are played on the main board.

[b]To me, it is all about the fight on the night. Did the fighter I thought would win, win or lose. If I can watch the fight and see the outcome, I know the "Why" of it.]/b] Do not have this burning desire to revisit it a thousand times over and over with ,What if's.


But thats just me. :cool:

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Ghost,

Although I sincerely agree that that'd be a great way to see the sport.... I'll never see it that way nor do I see how a human can(though you're not;D you're dead)...

I just don't see how you can't have a favorite in a fight or be slightly bias to another fighter due to whatever attributes...

Like... You never idolized a boxer?

You can not possibly look at each fight as it's own with no bias cuz to do such is impossible...


Ghost, you know I respect you but what you say is simply impossible...


I'm not challenging you it's just simply the truth...

You have or never had "A" favorite boxer?...

Surely you jest, sir;)

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POB, I respect all boxers and yes there are some I like to watch more than others when they fight but that does not mean I am pulling for them to win either. None of them are "My" favorite fighter. I do not have one.

If I can, I will watch any and all fights, regardless of who is fighting. Even if I have never heard of them before.

I don't know what to tell you POB, I am a "Fan" of the Sport of Boxing.





















Besides, if I did have a favorite boxer, he would never hear me, as I am dead. ;D :cool:

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Originally Posted by Ghost

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Originally Posted by PRIDE OF BOSTON

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Originally Posted by Ghost

Well I quess I am the exception to your post. I have no favorite boxer. I am a Fan of the sport of boxing. I will watch the great fights and the shitty fights.

Boxers come and go. The sport stays.

I don't play the what if, could of been, if this happened games that are played on the main board.

[b]To me, it is all about the fight on the night. Did the fighter I thought would win, win or lose. If I can watch the fight and see the outcome, I know the "Why" of it.]/b] Do not have this burning desire to revisit it a thousand times over and over with ,What if's.


But thats just me. :cool:

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Ghost,

Although I sincerely agree that that'd be a great way to see the sport.... I'll never see it that way nor do I see how a human can(though you're not;D you're dead)...

I just don't see how you can't have a favorite in a fight or be slightly bias to another fighter due to whatever attributes...

Like... You never idolized a boxer?

You can not possibly look at each fight as it's own with no bias cuz to do such is impossible...


Ghost, you know I respect you but what you say is simply impossible...


I'm not challenging you it's just simply the truth...

You have or never had "A" favorite boxer?...

Surely you jest, sir;)

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POB, I respect all boxers and yes there are some I like to watch more than others when they fight but that does not mean I am pulling for them to win either. None of them are "My" favorite fighter. I do not have one.

If I can, I will watch any and all fights, regardless of who is fighting. Even if I have never heard of them before.

I don't know what to tell you POB, I am a "Fan" of the Sport of Boxing.





















Besides, if I did have a favorite boxer, he would never hear me, as I am dead. ;D :cool:

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LOL that was funny.

Again, Bilbo has a point.... That's why I don't usually go to the main board after a big fight coz it will just make me crazy. These hidden boards are a refuge and a protection to my sanity.;D;D;D



Talking of fanboyism, please take a look at my sig courtesy of Danny. LOL.





Pacquaio is the greatest fighter of all time.











LMAO.

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Originally Posted by Bilbo

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Originally Posted by caleoh12

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Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing

I didn't like the safety-first thing. He was still great at what he did but Calzaghe gets stuck in. Much more entertaining and he shows much more boxing skills. I'd probably put Nigel Benn second, I tend to go for excitement. :)

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I respect that. If you're going for excitement then Joe can arguably be greater than Lennox Lewis. I was thinking along the lines of opposition and the fact that he has never faced anyone he hasn't beaten.

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If Calzaghe beats Roy Jones to me his resume will be better than Lennox.

Lennoxes defining fights were against Tyson and Holyfield. Nobody can convince me that Mike Tyson and Evander Hoylfield were any less shot than Bernard Hopkins and Roy Jones when Calzaghe got to them

Tyson had already been knocked out twice, disqualified once to avoid getting knocked out, had been in jail and was a shell of his former self.

Holyfield had been knocked out by Riddick Bowe, almost KO'd by Bert Cooper and was 38 years old and considered well past his best.

I don't see how those wins are any better than beating Bernard Hopkins who was the current Ring champ at 175 and has just pitched a shutout against the Ring Middleweight champ in his fight after losing to Joe.

Jones Jr has been knocked out twice just like Tyson but he's on a win streak and is considered p4p one of the best fighters of all time.

If Joe beats him, Jones and Hopkins are his Tyson and Holyfield imo.

Guys like Kessler, Lacy and Eubank approximate well to Klitschko, Ruddock, Bruno etc so I really don't see what Lewis did to achieve more.

When you factor in also that Lewis got ktfo twice whereas Calzaghe has never lost a fight then in my mind it's really hard not to put Calzaghe above Lewis IF he beats Roy Jones.

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I actually disagreed until i read the whole post. You made good points here Bilbo but the only thing I could argue is that Lennox fought a better level of opposition throughout but then again he was twice beaten by lesser opposition which has obviously never happened to Joe.