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Re: Hatton expecting to weigh 154lbs come fight night Vs Pac!!
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"Ricky Hatton knows his bulldozing style of fighting won’t be good enough to beat Manny Pacquiao in Las Vegas on May 2. Instead, he will rely on hand speed and punching power." ;D
I think many will give the speed advantage to PAC and punching power is just even... But what is the use of punching power if you can't hit your opponent cleanly?
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Does the doctor legally prescribe you the medicine or do you get this stuff on the black market? Either way, you are stark raving mad.
Pac is a likeable fighter, but his fans bring him down. I cannot wait for Hatton to beat on Pac and with it give this board a good old cleansing. :rolleyes:
Lets hope they all jumpship, like some have after Hattons first loss, Rekon Bertos going to have loads of new fan boys May 2nd ;D
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Re: Hatton expecting to weigh 154lbs come fight night Vs Pac!!
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SaddoBoxer
"Ricky Hatton knows his bulldozing style of fighting won’t be good enough to beat Manny Pacquiao in Las Vegas on May 2. Instead, he will rely on hand speed and punching power." ;D
I think many will give the speed advantage to PAC and punching power is just even... But what is the use of punching power if you can't hit your opponent cleanly?
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That doesn't mean that he is going to try and fight him like Floyd Jr would... It means he accepts that he can't just walk forward swinging wild punches at Pacman like he would of with Billy Graham. His 'USUAL BRAWLING STYLE'...
Did a young Mike Tyson Brawl? No... he was aggresive and came forwards, he took the fight to people and used good footwork and hand speed to do so. That doesn't mean that he fought with a style like Muhammad Ali though. :rolleyes:
When you joined the Pacman fan club did they send you out special tinted glasses or something?... :rolleyes:
I agree he should use headmovement, but unlike other times, he should keep his hands by his head, I notice he lowers them when he is coming forward and thats why Mayweather could hit him at will coming in. He needs to change this against Pacman, but I think unlike Tyson he needs to fight how he fights when he gets Pacman on the ropes. He needs to smother Pacquiao, and give him no room to get punches off.
Wasn't saying he fights that much like Tyson mate... just trying to explain to the nut hugger how a fighter can out fight somebody and use technique to do it. :)
I agree... god knows what was up with Ricky's guard in that fight... The way he was boxing he NEEDED a guard and it was basically non-existent... he might as well have had them behind his back.
Became very disenchanted with Billy Graham pre Collazo and thought he was a joke afterwards... with hindsight I think he took Ricky up to Tyszu and that was his limit... you can't just do almost nothing but beast a fighter and then throw him in with elite, slick fighters.
Hopefully with a real boxing coach rather than a glorified conditioning coach/pad man he might have been able to make the right adjustments to his game to actually be able bring his strengths to pac.
Will be interesting to see... :D
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Re: Hatton expecting to weigh 154lbs come fight night Vs Pac!!
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I think it's because he looked poor at 147 against Collazo. People assume that adding weight generally decreases speed....based on this assumption that Hatton was clearly slower against Collazo.
Problem was he had 7 weeks to train and in that time the extra weight he added wasn't just muscle tissue. He looked a little softer and his pre-fight breakfats was a fried one. That would explain why he looked like shit.
Being a solid 152ish is a lot different from being a botched 152+ which he was for the Collazo fight. Thing is, i think he'll lose this fight anyway and people will point to the weight if he comes in a bit higher ;D
He was 160 against Collazo.
Hatton was 158 on fightnight against Collazo and this was in 147 division. Against PAC in 140 division, I'm guessing Hatton will be 149 come fight night while PAC at 150 lbs.
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Re: Hatton expecting to weigh 154lbs come fight night Vs Pac!!
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Doesn't matter really which style Hatton gonna use... Hatton already accepted that his brawling style will not be enough to overwhelm PAC and if he uses a boxing style, his 20 inches very short arm length is so much a disadvantage to box outside...
Box or brawl or both... doesn't matter really...
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He will probably mix it up when he sees the need for it so Manny can't get into a rhythm, why does he have to announce his strategy? Also give it a rest about arm length and shit, Hatton never boxes on the outside he uses movement to get him in punching range, always has.
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Re: Hatton expecting to weigh 154lbs come fight night Vs Pac!!
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Doesn't matter really which style Hatton gonna use... Hatton already accepted that his brawling style will not be enough to overwhelm PAC and if he uses a boxing style, his 20 inches very short arm length is so much a disadvantage to box outside...
Box or brawl or both... doesn't matter really...
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He will probably mix it up when he sees the need for it so Manny can't get into a rhythm,
why does he have to announce his stategy? Also give it a rest about arm length and shit, Hatton never boxes on the outside he uses movement to get him in punching range, always has.
There you go, why does he has to announced his every plan and stragedy? Is it a ploy to confuse the opponent? If this is their purpose then sorry it won't work. PAC been in many fights (50 plus) and he knows how to deal an opponent.
So why the many announcements? Is it an indication that they're already in panic mode? IMO, it's an indication...
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Re: Hatton expecting to weigh 154lbs come fight night Vs Pac!!
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Doesn't matter really which style Hatton gonna use... Hatton already accepted that his brawling style will not be enough to overwhelm PAC and if he uses a boxing style, his 20 inches very short arm length is so much a disadvantage to box outside...
Box or brawl or both... doesn't matter really...
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He will probably mix it up when he sees the need for it so Manny can't get into a rhythm,
why does he have to announce his stategy? Also give it a rest about arm length and shit, Hatton never boxes on the outside he uses movement to get him in punching range, always has.
There you go, why does he has to announced his every plan and stragedy? Is it a ploy to confuse the opponent? If this is their purpose then sorry it won't work. PAC been in many fights (50 plus) and he knows how to deal an opponent.
So why the many announcements? Is it an indication that they're already in panic mode? IMO, it's an indication...
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Yeah saw him on 'Friday fight night' tonight, he was having a panic attack on air, just looking at each of his short arms and muttering "I'm fucked" constantly whenever he was asked about the Pac fight:rolleyes:
Seriously, Morales still had enough in the tank late in his career to beat Manny, what makes you think Hatton can't pull off one last 'hurrah'?
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Re: Hatton expecting to weigh 154lbs come fight night Vs Pac!!
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Kel
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SaddoBoxer
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Kel
He will probably mix it up when he sees the need for it so Manny can't get into a rhythm, why does he have to announce his stategy? Also give it a rest about arm length and shit, Hatton never boxes on the outside he uses movement to get him in punching range, always has.
There you go, why does he has to announced his every plan and stragedy? Is it a ploy to confuse the opponent? If this is their purpose then sorry it won't work. PAC been in many fights (50 plus) and he knows how to deal an opponent.
So why the many announcements? Is it an indication that they're already in panic mode? IMO, it's an indication...
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Yeah saw him on 'Friday fight night' tonight, he was having a panic attack on air, just looking at each of his short arms and muttering "I'm fucked" constantly whenever he was asked about the Pac fight:rolleyes:
Seriously, Morales still had enough in the tank late in his career to beat Manny, what makes you think Hatton can't pull off one last 'hurrah'?
I didn't totally write off Hatton... He can win this fight but I only give him very small chance... Maybe 1% chance...
I'm more inclined that PAC will give Hatton the worst beating because PAC is enjoying so many advantages over Hatton that PAC didn't enjoy in his previous fights... Like for example the 20 inches very short arm of Hatton, it's a big advantage to PAC...
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Re: Hatton expecting to weigh 154lbs come fight night Vs Pac!!
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SaddoBoxer
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There you go, why does he has to announced his every plan and stragedy? Is it a ploy to confuse the opponent? If this is their purpose then sorry it won't work. PAC been in many fights (50 plus) and he knows how to deal an opponent.
So why the many announcements? Is it an indication that they're already in panic mode? IMO, it's an indication...
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Yeah saw him on 'Friday fight night' tonight, he was having a panic attack on air, just looking at each of his short arms and muttering "I'm fucked" constantly whenever he was asked about the Pac fight:rolleyes:
Seriously, Morales still had enough in the tank late in his career to beat Manny, what makes you think Hatton can't pull off one last 'hurrah'?
I didn't totally write off Hatton...
He can win this fight but I only give him very small chance... Maybe 1% chance...
I'm more inclined that PAC will give Hatton the worst beating because PAC is enjoying so many advantages over Hatton that PAC didn't enjoy in his previous fights... Like for example the 20 inches very short arm of Hatton, it's a big advantage to PAC...
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You are fucking crazy
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Re: Hatton expecting to weigh 154lbs come fight night Vs Pac!!
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Yeah saw him on 'Friday fight night' tonight, he was having a panic attack on air, just looking at each of his short arms and muttering "I'm fucked" constantly whenever he was asked about the Pac fight:rolleyes:
Seriously, Morales still had enough in the tank late in his career to beat Manny, what makes you think Hatton can't pull off one last 'hurrah'?
I didn't totally write off Hatton...
He can win this fight but I only give him very small chance... Maybe 1% chance...
I'm more inclined that PAC will give Hatton the worst beating because PAC is enjoying so many advantages over Hatton that PAC didn't enjoy in his previous fights... Like for example the 20 inches very short arm of Hatton, it's a big advantage to PAC...
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You are fucking crazy
You can consider me crazy but those people here who gave PAC no chance at all against Hoya are far more crazy than me... At least I give Hatton 1% chance...
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Re: Hatton expecting to weigh 154lbs come fight night Vs Pac!!
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There you go, why does he has to announced his every plan and stragedy? Is it a ploy to confuse the opponent? If this is their purpose then sorry it won't work. PAC been in many fights (50 plus) and he knows how to deal an opponent.
So why the many announcements? Is it an indication that they're already in panic mode? IMO, it's an indication...
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Yeah saw him on 'Friday fight night' tonight, he was having a panic attack on air, just looking at each of his short arms and muttering "I'm fucked" constantly whenever he was asked about the Pac fight:rolleyes:
Seriously, Morales still had enough in the tank late in his career to beat Manny, what makes you think Hatton can't pull off one last 'hurrah'?
I didn't totally write off Hatton... He can win this fight but I only give him very small chance... Maybe 1% chance...
I'm more inclined that PAC will give Hatton the worst beating because PAC is enjoying so many advantages over Hatton that PAC didn't enjoy in his previous fights... Like for example the 20 inches very short arm of Hatton, it's a big advantage to PAC...
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This arm length business is something you really need to give a rest. All of Hattons opponents have longer arms than him and it is seldom a factor. What is the use in having a few inches longer reach if your opponent closes the gap so easily??? It's a really weak argument. Hatton smothers and closes distance in a way that Pac hasn't really had to deal with before. Added to that is the fact Hatton is bigger, stronger and been hit by much harder punchers. Hatton has a much better chance than your ridiculous 1%. I would say at least 50%.
You are in for a rude awakening. At least I'm ready for the possibility that Hatton might not get it right. But I'm expecting Hatton to do very well. You are going to look a bigger fool than you already are when it's all over. 1% chance. That's just bloody stupid. :rolleyes:
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Re: Hatton expecting to weigh 154lbs come fight night Vs Pac!!
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Yeah saw him on 'Friday fight night' tonight, he was having a panic attack on air, just looking at each of his short arms and muttering "I'm fucked" constantly whenever he was asked about the Pac fight:rolleyes:
Seriously, Morales still had enough in the tank late in his career to beat Manny, what makes you think Hatton can't pull off one last 'hurrah'?
I didn't totally write off Hatton... He can win this fight but I only give him very small chance... Maybe 1% chance...
I'm more inclined that PAC will give Hatton the worst beating because PAC is enjoying so many advantages over Hatton that PAC didn't enjoy in his previous fights... Like for example the 20 inches very short arm of Hatton, it's a big advantage to PAC...
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This arm length business is something you really need to give a rest. All of Hattons opponents have longer arms than him and it is seldom a factor. What is the use in having a few inches longer reach if your opponent closes the gap so easily??? It's a really weak argument. Hatton smothers and closes distance in a way that Pac hasn't really had to deal with before. Added to that is the fact Hatton is bigger, stronger and been hit by much harder punchers. Hatton has a much better chance than your ridiculous 1%. I would say at least 50%.
You are in for a rude awakening. At least I'm ready for the possibility that Hatton might not get it right. But I'm expecting Hatton to do very well. You are going to look a bigger fool than you already are when it's all over. 1% chance. That's just bloody stupid. :rolleyes:
Yep most Hatton opponents has longer arms than him by 1 or 2 inches but PAC has 5 inches longer arms than Hatton... Mayweather has 6 inches longer arms than Hatton...
I think it will be Hatton that be shocked, awed, surprised and confused when he will meet PAC inside the ring for the first time... Hope Hatton can adjust quickly in order to give at least a competitive rounds or else he'll be in for the worst beating in his life...
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Re: Hatton expecting to weigh 154lbs come fight night Vs Pac!!
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I didn't totally write off Hatton... He can win this fight but I only give him very small chance... Maybe 1% chance...
I'm more inclined that PAC will give Hatton the worst beating because PAC is enjoying so many advantages over Hatton that PAC didn't enjoy in his previous fights... Like for example the 20 inches very short arm of Hatton, it's a big advantage to PAC...
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This arm length business is something you really need to give a rest. All of Hattons opponents have longer arms than him and it is seldom a factor. What is the use in having a few inches longer reach if your opponent closes the gap so easily??? It's a really weak argument. Hatton smothers and closes distance in a way that Pac hasn't really had to deal with before. Added to that is the fact Hatton is bigger, stronger and been hit by much harder punchers. Hatton has a much better chance than your ridiculous 1%. I would say at least 50%.
You are in for a rude awakening. At least I'm ready for the possibility that Hatton might not get it right. But I'm expecting Hatton to do very well. You are going to look a bigger fool than you already are when it's all over. 1% chance. That's just bloody stupid. :rolleyes:
Yep most Hatton opponents has longer arms than him by 1 or 2 inches but PAC has 5 inches longer arms than Hatton... Mayweather has 6 inches longer arms than Hatton...
I think it will be Hatton that be shocked, awed, surprised and confused when he will meet PAC inside the ring for the first time... Hope Hatton can adjust quickly in order to give at least a competitive rounds or else he'll be in for the worst beating in his life...
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Give me a prediction on how the fight will go in your view. You don't have to do every round, just summerise the first, mid and late rounds (if it get that far) of how you see the fight going.
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Re: Hatton expecting to weigh 154lbs come fight night Vs Pac!!
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This arm length business is something you really need to give a rest. All of Hattons opponents have longer arms than him and it is seldom a factor. What is the use in having a few inches longer reach if your opponent closes the gap so easily??? It's a really weak argument. Hatton smothers and closes distance in a way that Pac hasn't really had to deal with before. Added to that is the fact Hatton is bigger, stronger and been hit by much harder punchers. Hatton has a much better chance than your ridiculous 1%. I would say at least 50%.
You are in for a rude awakening. At least I'm ready for the possibility that Hatton might not get it right. But I'm expecting Hatton to do very well. You are going to look a bigger fool than you already are when it's all over. 1% chance. That's just bloody stupid. :rolleyes:
Yep most Hatton opponents has longer arms than him by 1 or 2 inches but PAC has 5 inches longer arms than Hatton... Mayweather has 6 inches longer arms than Hatton...
I think it will be Hatton that be shocked, awed, surprised and confused when he will meet PAC inside the ring for the first time... Hope Hatton can adjust quickly in order to give at least a competitive rounds or else he'll be in for the worst beating in his life...
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Give me a prediction on how the fight will go in your view. You don't have to do every round, just summerise the first, mid and late rounds (if it get that far) of how you see the fight going.
I usually give that kind of prediction after the weigh-in or 1 day before the fight when all training and making the weight activities are done (just like what i did in PAC-Hoya fight).
When I said this early that PAC will inflict the worst beating on Hatton, it's mainly based on the many advantages that PAC enjoyed over Hatton and the track record of PAC inflicting the worst beating to the likes of Barrera, Morales, JM Marquez, DDiaz, Hoya and many more...
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Re: Hatton expecting to weigh 154lbs come fight night Vs Pac!!
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Yep most Hatton opponents has longer arms than him by 1 or 2 inches but PAC has 5 inches longer arms than Hatton... Mayweather has 6 inches longer arms than Hatton...
I think it will be Hatton that be shocked, awed, surprised and confused when he will meet PAC inside the ring for the first time... Hope Hatton can adjust quickly in order to give at least a competitive rounds or else he'll be in for the worst beating in his life...
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Give me a prediction on how the fight will go in your view. You don't have to do every round, just summerise the first, mid and late rounds (if it get that far) of how you see the fight going.
I usually give that kind of prediction after the weigh-in or 1 day before the fight when all training and making the weight activities are done (just like what i did in PAC-Hoya fight).
When I said this early that PAC will inflict the worst beating on Hatton, it's mainly based on the many advantages that PAC enjoyed over Hatton and the track record of PAC inflicting the worst beating to the likes of Barrera, Morales, JM Marquez, DDiaz, Hoya and many more...
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Just give the prediction now, can't be too hard seeing as Manny has a 99% chance of winning, you must have some idea how his win will come about:-\
Once you have finished wanking over B that is.
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Re: Hatton expecting to weigh 154lbs come fight night Vs Pac!!
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Give me a prediction on how the fight will go in your view. You don't have to do every round, just summerise the first, mid and late rounds (if it get that far) of how you see the fight going.
I usually give that kind of prediction after the weigh-in or 1 day before the fight when all training and making the weight activities are done (just like what i did in PAC-Hoya fight).
When I said this early that PAC will inflict the worst beating on Hatton, it's mainly based on the many advantages that PAC enjoyed over Hatton and the track record of PAC inflicting the worst beating to the likes of Barrera, Morales, JM Marquez, DDiaz, Hoya and many more...
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Just give the prediction now, can't be too hard seeing as Manny has a 99% chance of winning, you must have some idea how his win will come about
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Once you have finished wanking over B that is.
My prediction now? PAC will KO/TKO Hatton inside 9 rounds and in the process will inflict the worst beating on Hatton's entire life...
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Re: Hatton expecting to weigh 154lbs come fight night Vs Pac!!
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I didn't totally write off Hatton... He can win this fight but I only give him very small chance... Maybe 1% chance...
I'm more inclined that PAC will give Hatton the worst beating because PAC is enjoying so many advantages over Hatton that PAC didn't enjoy in his previous fights... Like for example the 20 inches very short arm of Hatton, it's a big advantage to PAC...
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This arm length business is something you really need to give a rest. All of Hattons opponents have longer arms than him and it is seldom a factor. What is the use in having a few inches longer reach if your opponent closes the gap so easily??? It's a really weak argument. Hatton smothers and closes distance in a way that Pac hasn't really had to deal with before. Added to that is the fact Hatton is bigger, stronger and been hit by much harder punchers. Hatton has a much better chance than your ridiculous 1%. I would say at least 50%.
You are in for a rude awakening. At least I'm ready for the possibility that Hatton might not get it right. But I'm expecting Hatton to do very well. You are going to look a bigger fool than you already are when it's all over. 1% chance. That's just bloody stupid. :rolleyes:
Yep most Hatton opponents has longer arms than him by 1 or 2 inches but PAC has 5 inches longer arms than Hatton... Mayweather has 6 inches longer arms than Hatton...
I think it will be Hatton that be shocked, awed, surprised and confused when he will meet PAC inside the ring for the first time... Hope Hatton can adjust quickly in order to give at least a competitive rounds or else he'll be in for the worst beating in his life...
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You are overestimating Manny Pac and underestimating Ricky Hatton. I've really enjoyed seeing them together from the footage in the UK because it has only spelled it out more clearly that Hatton is a size above Manny. And I don't mean that Hatton is looking overweight, in fact he looks in fantastic shape this far out.
You state that Mayweather has considerably longer arms than Hatton, which is obvious. But Mayweather didn't beat Hatton because of that. Hatton was able to close the gap AT WILL. He will do the same against Manny. He was ineffective against Mayweather for other reasons, and Hatton seems to be totally aware of this. Reach and closing the gap will not be a definining element in this fight.
I expect Hatton to mix up his attacks and use his jab more. He will try and maul Manny on occasion and he will come in with greater head and upper body movement. Expect to see more combination punching and expect Hatton to have pretty fast hands too now that he is reducing the weight work and working the mitts more.
The very fact that you keep wittering about arm length shows that you don't know what you are talking about. There are other aspects that I am much more concerned about than that. And I'm glad to see you have made a prediction. With a 99% chance of winning I'm surprised you didn't also predict the actual time of stoppage in the 9th as well. And I bet you are wrong.
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Re: Hatton expecting to weigh 154lbs come fight night Vs Pac!!
Hatton maybe a very different animal than what PAC already faced in the past but PAC having 53 pro fights and 14 years in the business has mostly seen all the styles from one or the other of these 53 individual boxers... Hatton is also pretty experienced boxer and this fight may come down on who has more physical, mental and emotional advantages... This one I give to PAC...
PAC didn't enjoy this so much advantages in his recent big fights... Skills, varied offense, defense are all for PAC in my opinion... PAC with his speed, quickness, southpaw stance, boxing skills and athletic abilities will give all sorts of problems for Hatton...
I'm not worried at all for PAC in this fight... I was more worried going into the DelaHoya and Diaz fights...
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Re: Hatton expecting to weigh 154lbs come fight night Vs Pac!!
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Hatton maybe a very different animal than what PAC already faced in the past but PAC having 53 pro fights and 14 years in the business has mostly seen all the styles from one or the other of these 53 individual boxers... Hatton is also pretty experienced boxer and this fight may come down on who has more physical, mental and emotional advantages... This one I give to PAC...
PAC didn't enjoy this so much advantages in his recent big fights... Skills, varied offense, defense are all for PAC in my opinion... PAC with his speed, quickness, southpaw stance, boxing skills and athletic abilities will give all sorts of problems for Hatton...
I'm not worried at all for PAC in this fight... I was more worried going into the DelaHoya and Diaz fights...
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You were more worried about David Diaz than you are about Hatton?? That speaks volumes. I admit that I thought the DLH fight was a concern. But when Manny weighs more than DLH it's obvious that something is amiss. Manny beat Diaz fair and square but that was to be expected. The Oscar fight was more spectacular, but he beat a shadow in there.
Now we will see what Manny does for the FIRST time outside of 130 pounds against a quality fighter still in his prime. You would be silly not to be worried. Hatton is a far sterner test than both of Pacs last two opponents.
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Re: Hatton expecting to weigh 154lbs come fight night Vs Pac!!
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Hatton maybe a very different animal than what PAC already faced in the past but PAC having 53 pro fights and 14 years in the business has mostly seen all the styles from one or the other of these 53 individual boxers... Hatton is also pretty experienced boxer and this fight may come down on who has more physical, mental and emotional advantages... This one I give to PAC...
PAC didn't enjoy this so much advantages in his recent big fights... Skills, varied offense, defense are all for PAC in my opinion... PAC with his speed, quickness, southpaw stance, boxing skills and athletic abilities will give all sorts of problems for Hatton...
I'm not worried at all for PAC in this fight... I was more worried going into the DelaHoya and Diaz fights...
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You were more worried about David Diaz than you are about Hatton?? That speaks volumes. I admit that I thought the DLH fight was a concern. But when Manny weighs more than DLH it's obvious that something is amiss. Manny beat Diaz fair and square but that was to be expected. The Oscar fight was more spectacular, but he beat a shadow in there.
Now we will see what Manny does for the FIRST time outside of 130 pounds against a quality fighter still in his prime. You would be silly not to be worried. Hatton is a far sterner test than both of Pacs last two opponents.
Back in June last year, the fight infront of PAC is David Diaz, a tough LW champ with lots of heart and guts... There's no Hoya or Hatton or Cotto at that time... Since it will be PAC's first fight in a new weight division (135), I have that little worry on how PAC perform at this new weight... Then came Hoya at 147... Again a little worry on how PAC perform and takes shots from the giant Hoya as everybody gave the smaller PAC no chance at all to defeat the giant Hoya...
Now comes Hatton at 140... I already saw how PAC performed at 147 and I'm convinced that he still carries substantial speed and power at 147 to be effective. I'm just looking at PAC's performance alone without considering his opponent and the outcome of that fight... And to add, PAC been regularly sparring with middleweights and welterweights in his preparation for the Hoya fight...
So far for this Hatton fight, no worries at all mate (I dunno why ;) )...
This is really what I felt before the Diaz fight, before the Hoya fight and now the Hatton fight... Anyway, this is only my own opinion mate...
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Re: Hatton expecting to weigh 154lbs come fight night Vs Pac!!
Saddoboxer, seriously dude you need to tone this shit down!!
You refuse to listen to valid points raised by other knowledgeble posters and keep repeating the same things yourself over and over is if it's fact. Do you actually read anybody else's posts or do you just wait to see replys so that you can repeat yourself again? ;)
You're setting yourself up for a big fall and creating anti Pac sentiments on the forum in the process. This is a far closer match up than you and the bookies think, 50/50 is more realistic!
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Saddoboxer, seriously dude you need to tone this shit down!!
You refuse to listen to valid points raised by other knowledgeble posters and keep repeating the same things yourself over and over is if it's fact. Do you actually read anybody else's posts or do you just wait to see replys so that you can repeat yourself again? ;)
You're setting yourself up for a big fall and creating anti Pac sentiments on the forum in the process. This is a far closer match up than you and the bookies think, 50/50 is more realistic!
Mate Conrad, I think it's not only me and the oddsmaker having Hatton as a huge underdog here. This particular boxing writer has the same feeling with us...
link --> Hatton clearly the underdog against Pacquiao
He might have a skull lined with concrete, thousands of fans chanting, "There's only onnnnnnnnnnnne Ricky Hatton," and a huggy bear style that can frustrate the most average of boxers. But come May 2nd, Ricky Hatton will be a clear underdog against Manny Pacquiao.
One Internet sports book has the Filipino boxing idol a two-to-one favorite over the U.K. bruiser.
It does not take an expert to realize Hatton loves his booze and fish 'n chips. As long-time, robust fight figure Michael Marley recently noted, during a U.K. presser this week it seemed as if Hatton was aroused early from a night of partying to attend the media meet and greet. Afterall, we are talking about a fighter who has even embraced the moniker of Ricky "Fatton."
Yet for all his lack of self-care during between-fight downtime, Hatton has never failed to come less than prepared for a major fight. And usually his foes break under Ricky's iron will and goonery.
Do not expect the 30-year-old to hit the wall against Pacquiao, especially under the watchful eye of world renowned trainer and taskmaster Floyd Mayweather Senior.
So what will be Hatton's undoing?
Manny Pacquiao.
“I’ve been in a lot of big, big fights and beaten a lot of great fighters. My last fight against De La Hoya was important, but Ricky Hatton will be much harder," Pacquiao recently told a Filipino news outlet.
Manny is giving Hatton too much credit, drumming up a fairly predictable clash and trying to sell more pay-per-views in my estimation.
Hatton is a world class brawler who relies on being able to get off his punches and then hug and mug his foe. That sort of rudimentary strategy can work wonders against run-of-the-mill opposition.
His comeback from a December 2007 knockout loss to Floyd Mayweather Junior has been built on victories against a very average Juan Lazcano and the stoppage knockout of athletic but feather and damaged fisted Paulie Malignaggi.
Q: Why did Hatton loss to Floyd Mayweather Jr?
A: Floyd was the most athletic boxer Ricky had ever faced in his career and the former pound-for-pound great was able to strike and flutter away from Hatton's attempted clinches.
Prior to Mayweather, Hatton's resume reads like a who's who of serviceable brawlers: Juan Urango, a blown-up and past prime Jose Luis Castillo, Carlos Maussa. Hatton did ice the previously unstoppable Kostya Tsyu, but the Russian was 35 and well past his prime.
Hatton's only other scare, aside from Mayweather, was a tough unanimous decision "victory" over crafty lefty Luis Collazo.
Want to give Hatton problems?
Be a lefty, box, have athletic ability, and the capability to move around on your feet.
Unfortunately for the Manchester faithful Manny Pacquiao has loads and loads of Ricky's poisons and power to boot.
Once an off-balance, offense first, second and last lefty, Pacquiao has been transformed by Freddie Roach into a calibrated boxing machine. The fiery native of General Santos still throws punches in bunches from a southpaw stance. But as proved in his definitive victory over Oscar De La Hoya, Manny can now weave in and out of exchanges while still punishing his opponent.
If you throw level of opposition into the mix, Pacquiao has been hardened by a string of future Hall of Fame fighters.
Erik Morales, De La Hoya, Marco Antonio Barrera, and Juan Manuel Marquez all rear their legendary mugs in Manny's record. The only fighter who can equal the abilities of those former Pacquiao foes on Hatton's list of foes is Floyd Mayweather Junior and we already went over how that bout went for Hatton.
Don't believe the pre-fight hype. Don't listen to Manny up-sell Ricky. Don't listen to Floyd Senior taunt Manny and Freddie. Don't listen to Hatton say he will knock out the Filipino. And don't believe this is a fight of the year candidate worthy of forty-some-odd dollars.
Look at the lines and believe the odds-makers who have Pacquiao as a clear favorite.
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Re: Hatton expecting to weigh 154lbs come fight night Vs Pac!!
Yeah i read that article yesterday. That is just somebodies opinion and I hazard a guess that writer, as did so many other writers, wrote something similar about how De La Hoya was gonna overwhelm Pac with his sheer size advantage. How that fight was so pointless and one sided. The same goes for the Pavlik Hopkins bout.
Pretty much every writer picked ODLH over Pac and as you know full well they were wrong. Just because some journelist on the internet says a fighter will win it doesn't make it so.
The beauty of the ODLH fight is that it actually makes Pac look better at the higher weights than what he probably is. Sure Pac looked fantastic but then any half decent fighter around the WW mark would have too that night. Oscar himself also said that Pac's punches didn't hurt him, they clearly have no effect on the bigger men....
Do yourself, and more importantly Pac a favour by toning down all these rants.
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Re: Hatton expecting to weigh 154lbs come fight night Vs Pac!!
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Conrad
Saddoboxer, seriously dude you need to tone this shit down!!
You refuse to listen to valid points raised by other knowledgeable posters and keep repeating the same things yourself over and over is if it's fact. Do you actually read anybody else's posts or do you just wait to see replies so that you can repeat yourself again? ;)
You're setting yourself up for a big fall and creating anti Pac sentiments on the forum in the process. This is a far closer match up than you and the bookies think, 50/50 is more realistic!
Don't let Saddo get to us English Fans, he is a master at fishing for a bite, same old bait every time and the same old fish coming in and taking the bait, lets just leave him to it and not pull his string, its such a biased opinion the baits not worth it. Ricks forums been invaded by Pac fans and there on here too a place I love for an unbiased discussion but unfortunately we ain't going to get one with this angler. ;)
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Re: Hatton expecting to weigh 154lbs come fight night Vs Pac!!
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Originally Posted by
Conrad
Yeah i read that article yesterday. That is just somebodies opinion and I hazard a guess that writer, as did so many other writers, wrote something similar about how De La Hoya was gonna overwhelm Pac with his sheer size advantage. How that fight was so pointless and one sided. The same goes for the Pavlik Hopkins bout.
Pretty much every writer picked ODLH over Pac and as you know full well they were wrong. Just because some journelist on the internet says a fighter will win it doesn't make it so.
The beauty of the ODLH fight is that it actually makes Pac look better at the higher weights than what he probably is. Sure Pac looked fantastic but then any half decent fighter around the WW mark would have too that night.
Do yourself, and more importantly Pac a favour by toning down all these rants.
Yeah mate, I really feel it for Hatton... He seems to be a likeable bloke outside the ring and you see how harsh these boxing writers degrade his abilities compared to Pacquiao...
I got that same feeling when I picked PAC against Hoya and many members here labeled me as delusional, idiot and dumb...
Anyway it's part of boxing forum life... We're just here to present our mere opinions...
Cheers mate... It's not the end of Hatton after PAC... Unless he decides to retire for good... PAC also will be retiring at the end of the year... PAC will be missed and so with Hatton...
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Re: Hatton expecting to weigh 154lbs come fight night Vs Pac!!
The main advantage that Pac had over Oscar was that he had had a meal at some point in the week before the fight... Oscar looked like he'd been eating air... he probably didn't know whether to box Manny or eat him.
Whilst I do think that pacman is possibly p4p number one at the moment I also don't understand why people get so exited every time he beats a shop worn, weight drained mexican... Morales beat him when he still had a tiny bit of his spark left, gave him plenty to think about the second time out... did you see Morales in the third fight? The guy literally looked like a zombie skeleton. Barrera? I give Manny a bit of credit for the first fight... Barrera probably was past his peak but was still an elite fighter... the 2nd fight Barrera was like what? 6-7 years past hios best? Still went the distance. Oh and David Diaz? solid fighter but are people realy going to put Manny on a pedistal for beating David Diaz? Other than beating an over the hill Morales diaz hasn't really done that much else.
Giving him some credit for those wins is fine... he deserves it...
He's not a god though.
Manny is good... but he's not THAT good... jesus... get it in perspective.
1% chance?... :-/ lol
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Re: Hatton expecting to weigh 154lbs come fight night Vs Pac!!
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miles
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Originally Posted by
SaddoBoxer
Hatton maybe a very different animal than what PAC already faced in the past but PAC having 53 pro fights and 14 years in the business has mostly seen all the styles from one or the other of these 53 individual boxers... Hatton is also pretty experienced boxer and this fight may come down on who has more physical, mental and emotional advantages... This one I give to PAC...
PAC didn't enjoy this so much advantages in his recent big fights... Skills, varied offense, defense are all for PAC in my opinion... PAC with his speed, quickness, southpaw stance, boxing skills and athletic abilities will give all sorts of problems for Hatton...
I'm not worried at all for PAC in this fight... I was more worried going into the DelaHoya and Diaz fights...
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You were more worried about David Diaz than you are about Hatton?? That speaks volumes. I admit that I thought the DLH fight was a concern. But when Manny weighs more than DLH it's obvious that something is amiss. Manny beat Diaz fair and square but that was to be expected. The Oscar fight was more spectacular, but he beat a shadow in there.
Now we will see what Manny does for the FIRST time outside of 130 pounds against a quality fighter still in his prime. You would be silly not to be worried. Hatton is a far sterner test than both of Pacs last two opponents.
"I'm not worried at all for PAC in this (Hatton) fight... I was more worried going into the DelaHoya and Diaz fights... :p ;D
Another thing, Hatton again lying on this one... weighing 154 lbs. on fight night ... tsk... tsk... tsk...
Going... going... gone... :p ;D
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