Mayweather and Brian Kenny About to Rip Into Each Other on Sportscenter

I liked some points Mayweather made about him being too big for Marquez but not too big for Pacquiao, Marquez questionable decisions vs Pacquiao, people ignoring how Pacquiao lost before, etc. Floyd even asked Kenny "Has Pacquiao lost before" and he answered "NO!", Huh? Gotta do your homework before you interview someone about boxing.

;D LOL, are you kidding me, Kenny knew Pacquaio had lost before, he was just pointing out that a few of the losses had taken place like ten years ago when he was fighting at like 112

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Originally Posted by OumaFan

;D LOL, are you kidding me, Kenny knew Pacquaio had lost before, he was just pointing out that a few of the losses had taken place like ten years ago when he was fighting at like 112

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Actually, he got Kenny to admit on national tv that one of those losses came alot more recently than just 10 years ago, as Kenny openly stated he thought, like most people, Marquez beat Manny last year:)

Meh, true but that's not my point, I was just responding to the bizarre claim that somehow Brian Kenny (host of ESPN's boxing show for years ;D) for some completely unknown reason thought Pacquaio was undefeated.

I think Pacquaio barely edged the second fight but that's besides the point.

That entire interview was like running over a giant rock pile with a lawnmower.And ya have to love "I dont fight for bragging rights"...:-XAnd then smacking Kenny about what he makes in a year etc.

Brian Kenny is absolutely awesome. I love how he would not let him evade question.

I thought they both made great points, also both made absurd ones as well. And they are both annoying; especially Floyd with his kindergarten hand clapping session.....patty cake patty cake:p

I think Pac and JMM are both too small for Floyd to fight but f#ck it. Big $$$ fights and good for the sport. I only wish Mayweather/Williams would have happened before Floyd retired and PW moved up; Paul was the only real threat I ever saw for Floyd. I can't stand Floyd and can only hope to see him lose but it won't happen; he'll beat Pac and JMM with little trouble.

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LOL, are you kidding me, Kenny knew Pacquaio had lost before, he was just pointing out that a few of the losses had taken place like ten years ago when he was fighting at like 112

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I know, huh? But when Floyd ask him first he answered "NO!" until Floyd reminded him that Pac lost by KO and a clear loss to Erik Morales 1. That's when Kenny agreed on the losses.

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Kenny openly stated he thought, like most people, Marquez beat Manny last year

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Yes, many boxing experts and commentators, other boxers, etc. Also believe that Marquez deserved to win BOTH fights.
Floyd talking about Kenny's job and what not was unnecesary. Still, Kenny would answer and keep his cool:cool:.

I will say brian is a cool m'fer, I met him last year at espn, he just breezed right into the studio tie off looked all rumpled... Put his tie on straightened himself out and went on air... Though that TV was some major production for these guys... pretty damn non chelant

I think he's the most talented guy at ESPN, he does a good job on Sportscenter as compared to some of the other losers they have.

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LOL, are you kidding me, Kenny knew Pacquaio had lost before, he was just pointing out that a few of the losses had taken place like ten years ago when he was fighting at like 112

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I know, huh? But when Floyd ask him first he answered "NO!" until Floyd reminded him that Pac lost by KO and a clear loss to Erik Morales 1. That's when Kenny agreed on the losses.

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Kenny openly stated he thought, like most people, Marquez beat Manny last year

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Yes, many boxing experts and commentators, other boxers, etc. Also believe that Marquez deserved to win BOTH fights.
Floyd talking about Kenny's job and what not was unnecesary. Still, Kenny would answer and keep his cool:cool:.

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in Floyd's defense Kenny in a way brought it upon himself with stupid remarks such as "at least i have a job", IMO both were way unprofessional in this interview, Floyd's excuse not the face Mosley was pathetic, but he did have a point in how hypocritical some analysts and writer's can be, agreed with him 100% when he said the Hatton/Castillo bit, and Kenny's response was really weak, he say's Manny's win over DLH was superb, but then Hatton's win was against an over the hill fighter, IMO both wins were weak

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Originally Posted by Fenster

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2 things about that interview. Kenny is wrong. Mayweather did not get full credit for the De La Hoya and Hatton wins.

And Mayweather brings up a great point. Why is he to big for Marquez, but not Pacquiao?

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Because Marquez is an unknown quantity above 135. He has never fought a guy above lightweight.

Pac has demolished a former 154 champ and a former 147 champ in his last two fights.

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This is true, but at the same time, we have to ask ourselves, why is Pac's camp insisting that they will only fight Mayweather or Mosley or Cotto at catchweight's if he was indeed so successful against those two bigger fighters?

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Floyd, Mosley, and Cotto have found a home at 147. Oscar was a 154 pound fighter but Pac had fought no higher than 135. The 147 catchweight for them was so it would even the playing ground. No one knew Oscar would lose more weight than he had to and have trouble rehydrating. Pacquiao fighting at 147 was just so the freak show could be executed not because he was comfortable at that weight. Hatton was a step down from the Oscar fight but was still considered the bigger man cause he was still a superfeatherweight about a year ago.

I think Manny fighting at catch weights against Mayweather, Mosely, and Cotto are a product of 1) Manny being the big dog now and 2) Because 147 is not natural for Manny. Oscar MADE him look great at 147 but that is in now way a weight class he should be fighting at. I don't know, but if you're the one people want to fight, they should come to you, not the other way around.

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Originally Posted by Spicoli

That entire interview was like running over a giant rock pile with a lawnmower.And ya have to love "I dont fight for bragging rights"...:-XAnd then smacking Kenny about what he makes in a year etc.

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I thought that was MAD DICK! Everyone knows Floyd is a cash king but to degrade someone's earning power just because he isn't a million dollar fighter is a low blow IMO. I think it's already a given Floyd earns more than most, no need to point it out. Although Kenny's paycheck probably makes mine look like a tax refund.

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I thought they both made great points, also both made absurd ones as well. And they are both annoying; especially Floyd with his kindergarten hand clapping session.....patty cake patty cake:p

I think Pac and JMM are both too small for Floyd to fight but f#ck it. Big $$$ fights and good for the sport. I only wish Mayweather/Williams would have happened before Floyd retired and PW moved up; Paul was the only real threat I ever saw for Floyd. I can't stand Floyd and can only hope to see him lose but it won't happen; he'll beat Pac and JMM with little trouble.

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I'm glad I wasn't the only person who got annoyed by Floyd clapping along with each word he said. He was saying the right things to defend himself; the clapping was just a bit much.

I swear, Floyd read this site right before going on with the interview cause he reiterated so many points that people make for him on this forum.

"Paul Maginalli" ;D

Floyd was already irritated before the interview started. All stuttering and shit.

I enjoyed watching that vid. Good back to back exchanges.

I'm not a Floyd fan but he will beat both JMM and Pac fairly easy. Even if he has to go to 143 to fight Pac that will not be any big deal as he loses probably 7 to 9 pounds to make that weight. Floyd will not be drained like ODLH nor will he charge Pac with his hands at his chest asking to be hit. As a matter of fact his lead right should work real well against Pac if he tries to get too aggessive. Either way he wins these fights and makes a ton of money in the process. The only shot they have of beating Floyd is if he has somehow lost a step with his brief retirement. Floyd is a young fighter even at 32 as he has never taken a beating. He might be doing well when he is 50 years old. Look at Hopkins he's never taken a big beating, at least that I can remember, and still performs quite well in his 40s.

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Originally Posted by amat

Floyd had one fight at 154 and of course Margarito is a big welterweight, he's a huge welterweight and Snakey is completely on point. If you could put your Pac favoritism or Mayweather dislike aside then that would be pretty easy to see. Unless you want to now argue that Mayweather is bigger then Margarito.

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Ignore Rains. He can't see logic. Pac's cock poked his eye balls out

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Originally Posted by Julius Rain

That showed how insecured floyd is when pacquiao is mentioned :newpoints:

This is why his fighting jmm, so he can say he beat the guy that gave pac the toughest fight. :rolleyes: why dont you just fight pacquiao?

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why didn't Pacquiao go straight into a 3rd fight with Marquez, instead of fighting the bum Diaz, a weight drained DLH, and the only legit win since he beat Barrera in the rematch, Hatton

I'm a big PBF fan and I know he's an ass, but he just says what he believes and he's confident. And with good reason. This interview was funny because he was pissed off as soon as the interview started with Kenny saying the former #1 pound for pound fighter . . .

what you all have to realize is that these interviews don't start off where we see it. They usually have some banter before they go live (usually during previous commercial) and I GUARANTEE Kenny was kissing his ass and then they go live and he starts with that BS.

Kenny was talking big shit and it would have been funny to see if they weren't separated by a thousand miles.

BK:"So, they [Ellerbee and Haymon] didn't want you to face Pacquiao right away?"
PBF: "No, I'm not duckin and dodgin nobody. You know what it is"
BK:"No, I don't. What is it? Bob Arum? . . . if you're the cash king, you can make that [fight vs. Pac] happen"
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BK: "Pacquiao just faced the same two opponents you did. Who do you think was more impressive?"
PBF: "Me, of course."
BK: "REALLY?"
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PBF: "Am I going to get to speak. . .because YOU want to interview ME. I don't want to interview YOU."
Hilarious. What an asshole. He had Floyd flustered and pissed. haha. He would have slapped Kenny if he was in studio.

BK was kissin PAC ass.

PBF: "He got a country behind him [JMM] a COUNTRY!!" LMAO.
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PBF: "Yo job don't pay like my job."
BK: "It depends". Lmfao - depens on what? If you add a couple of zeros to BKs salary?

AND FOR ALL OF YOU COMMENTING ABOUT THE CLAPPING. . .THAT CLAPPING LEADS TO A PUNCH IN THE FACE WHERE I COME FROM. KENNY WAS LUCKY THEY WEREN'T TOGETHER.

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it was awesome for Floyd on a worldwide stage like espn sportcenter to step up and intelligently defend himself against the double standard that seems to be applied to him...

He set the record straight plain and simple

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I wouldn't go that far ;D

Floyd answered some question well but he also flapped and sounded like a wally at times.

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Yeah I really don't get this notion that Floyd handled the interview so well. The points he was trying to make were no doubt valid, but he is about as articulate as Charlie Zelenoff in there. If he were truly even remotely intelligent he coud have easily dismantled BK. For instance when Brian tried to grill him on why he wasn't fighting the winner of the two fights between Pac and Marquez, could Floyd not have simply said, "well I personally feel Marquez won both fights, and has looked sensational himself in moving up in weight after the fact." It's perfectly valid to point out that he fought Oscar on his terms when he had something left, and may have severely dented Hatton's punch resistance and ruined his confidence in elite fights. Or perhaps show some humility and simply admit that Pac is the harder puncher yet he controlled the fight with Hatton and has much different strengths than Manny? Styles make fights perhaps? I don't like the way Brian Kenny acted as though he had this major ammunition to grill Mayweather about simply because Pacquiao defeated Oscar and Ricky in quicker fashion. Decent watch though I guess.

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Originally Posted by p4pking

Yeah I really don't get this notion that Floyd handled the interview so well.

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There aren't many boxers or human beings that would have just gone off on Kenny and started cursing him out with the way he was trying to subtly take shots. He wasn't being an impartial journalist at all. . .he was rattled. For a person who makes a living and has devoted his life to physical violence against another human, I think he did great no to just walk off and tell Kenny that he would kick his ass when he saw him next. lol.

We aren't talking about Rhodes scholars here fellas.

DC I think you are reading to much into this. Mayweather does this everytime he is with Kenny, he even told him before that Kenny was going to be his Howard Cossell. I don't think the former P4P number 1 was a shot, it's the truth. Unless floyd also wants to fight the editors of every P4P list maker out there, I think he was just doing this for publicity which is why he was on the show in the first place.

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Originally Posted by amat

DC I think you are reading to much into this. Mayweather does this everytime he is with Kenny, he even told him before that Kenny was going to be his Howard Cossell. I don't think the former P4P number 1 was a shot, it's the truth. Unless floyd also wants to fight the editors of every P4P list maker out there, I think he was just doing this for publicity which is why he was on the show in the first place.

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Don't know man. I never remember seeing Cossell lose it before, but I didn't see all his work. I also can tell you from seeing almost every floyd interview he wasn't faking. What was fake was floyd being calm at the end. He was pissed and then tried to act like it wasn't real, but it was. it was good pub, but I think both of the guys got emotional - for real.

I don't doubt that at least on Mayweather's part but I think he was just talking about the antagonistic relationship Ali and Cossell had when he said that, I think it was on Friday Night Fights when he said that because I couldn't find it on Youtube but I do remember it.

Anyways, Mayweather has been annoyed it seems on his whole media tour this week. I think all those interviews were on the same day as his NY press conference because he is in the same shirt, even though they've appeared on different days. But obviously he's going to be annoyed because he thinks he's better then Pacquiao and Pacquiao is now boxing's new big attraction and he fights with a more crowd pleasing style so it's put a bit of a chip on Floyd's shoulder but Kenny will interview Mayweather again and I doubt either have any hard feelings.

He does seem a bit pissed off I agree but I think that's about the situation in general.

Floyd is acting like a stuttering female doggy and wearing lipstick to boot.

Well nuts,If Kenny can take Mayweather out of his game....heres to hoping Marquez can duplicate it ;D.Let him fight pissed off!Mayweathers boxing mind is a work of art....but his mouth can be a great set up jab.

Yup Floyd, Shane has 5 losses because he has a warrior mentality, a nut sack, and a belief that he is the best and thus shouldnt shy from a challenge of pitting himself against the best.

He has been fighting full size real deal welterweights for half his career. And hes got about the same physique as you too floyd aka stuttering stanley :rolleyes:




"Why would I fight Shane Mosley? he has 5 losses."

Even though it was a practiced, premeditated response spoon fed by his advisors to him you can see right through his fragile words.

As much as like floyd and hold in him the as the heir to the p4p crown left by roy jones... he pissed me off with that "shane has five losses" crap...

Shane is also one my favorites...

but Floyd fought who oscar had 4 losses, baldomir had 9, gatti had 6, and sharmba mitchell had 4, two of which were stops...so he can STFU with that shit..in fact i truly believe its his uncle roger that's keeping him from shane.

They're carefully waiting on shane to look completely washed in a fight then they will get loud mouthed about fighting shane but will totally forget that "oh shane hs 5 losses"... cocksuckers...that really pissed me off because shane has fought his way back to the limelight.

Brian Kenny pwned PBF...;D
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Mayweather did spout an awful lot of nonsense in that interview and it was all the more funny for it. Brian Kenny won that little tussle quite handily. Mayweather loses his composure so easily in interviews. He's quite the opposite in the ring though. ;D

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Originally Posted by miles

Mayweather did spout an awful lot of nonsense in that interview and it was all the more funny for it. Brian Kenny won that little tussle quite handily. Mayweather loses his composure so easily in interviews. He's quite the opposite in the ring though. ;D

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I think its more about the "monday morning quarterback" syndrome that everyone has esp reporters and fans...It annoys fighters like Floyd, hell even merchant with all his respect for shane used to criticize him when he was p4p no1. Floyd doesn't respect people that don't compete in the sport commenting on his fights or ability when they've never laced up. He also in other interviews doesn't respect the ones that have competed in the sports commenting if they don't meet his acceptable standard of "good" or whatever.

And I totally get that, because while everyone cries about wanting to see the best perform, when floyd does fight the best, and maximizes his ability the fight gets called boring. But if he stuck his neck out and ended up like gerald mcclellan...How many of them would donate to the help floyd fund?

Personally I thought Kenny was the one in the wrong there.

You call a fighter to do an interview and question his wins and desire to fight, what are you expecting?

I am now a Mayweather fan

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Originally Posted by Violent Demise

2 things about that interview. Kenny is wrong. Mayweather did not get full credit for the De La Hoya and Hatton wins.

And Mayweather brings up a great point. Why is he to big for Marquez, but not Pacquiao?

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He is too big for both of them. He admits as much himself. I posted a link where he says that he should beat them because they are small.

To answer your question, however, this is Marquez's first fight above 135 and he only fought twice at 135. This fight is at 144. That is a 10 pound jump for one fight. Thus, there is an argument isn't as big, at least not yet.

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Originally Posted by Violent Demise

2 things about that interview. Kenny is wrong. Mayweather did not get full credit for the De La Hoya and Hatton wins.

And Mayweather brings up a great point. Why is he to big for Marquez, but not Pacquiao?

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He is too big for both of them. He admits as much himself. I posted a link where he says that he should beat them because they are small.

To answer your question, however, this is Marquez's first fight above 135 and he only fought twice at 135. This fight is at 144. That is a 10 pound jump for one fight. Thus, there is an argument isn't as big, at least not yet.

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i agree! that's why pbf "should" win these fights if not shame on him.
PBF is continuing his legendary legacy against GREAT but smaller fighters instead of fighting natural welterweights.

It's all about publicity. Floyd knows how to market himself. It's just an act to make people hate him but still fork over the money to watch him fight. He knows how to play the game well. And Brian Kenny is just helping him market himself.

LOL, way too much being read into this, this ended up the way both guys wanted it to period.

If Floyd Mayweather wanted somebody else to interview him, they'd get somebody else to interview him, yet he always wants Kenny to do it. Why? Because he wants this type of interview, hell he even started this time, I mean practically the first thing he said was something about Brian Kenny not knowing anything about boxing.

And the next time you see him on ESPN who will be interviewing him? I guarantee you it will be Brian Kenny which should tell you everything need to know.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jjQntgxur0

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Originally Posted by Violent Demise

2 things about that interview. Kenny is wrong. Mayweather did not get full credit for the De La Hoya and Hatton wins.

And Mayweather brings up a great point. Why is he to big for Marquez, but not Pacquiao?

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Pac already been tested at 147 but not Marquez

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So that corpse Manny was hitting was considered a test at Welterweight?

My arse it was!

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Originally Posted by OumaFan

LOL, way too much being read into this, this ended up the way both guys wanted it to period.

If Floyd Mayweather wanted somebody else to interview him, they'd get somebody else to interview him, yet he always wants Kenny to do it. Why? Because he wants this type of interview, hell he even started this time, I mean practically the first thing he said was something about Brian Kenny not knowing anything about boxing.

And the next time you see him on ESPN who will be interviewing him? I guarantee you it will be Brian Kenny which should tell you everything need to know.

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Your probably right

If Floyd said "Yeah, bring me anybody anytime" he wouldn't have gone through all the crap that went back and forth. As a matter of fact, I think it would be even better if he said that and then started throwing all kinds of crap at other boxers (Pacs losses, Mosley losses, and all the other things he said). It would have been easier for him. But not clearly saying that made Kenny doubt him in the interview and all the hand clapping and stuff.

How do we know Floyd likes Kenny? Did he said that or what?

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Originally Posted by Violent Demise

2 things about that interview. Kenny is wrong. Mayweather did not get full credit for the De La Hoya and Hatton wins.

And Mayweather brings up a great point. Why is he to big for Marquez, but not Pacquiao?

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Pac already been tested at 147 but not Marquez

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You call the oscar de la hoya pacquiao fight 'tested'?

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Originally Posted by Violent Demise

2 things about that interview. Kenny is wrong. Mayweather did not get full credit for the De La Hoya and Hatton wins.

And Mayweather brings up a great point. Why is he to big for Marquez, but not Pacquiao?

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Pac already been tested at 147 but not Marquez

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So that corpse Manny was hitting was considered a test at Welterweight?

My arse it was!

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The ODLH fight was not testing @ 147 ! That was Pac earning CE
credits at a Las Vegas convalescent hospital like most of his countrymen nurses !!