Who hopes Khan can become an elite boxer? Vote now!

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Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales

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Originally Posted by hattonthehammer

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Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales

forgot the don't give a shit option

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But if his name was Alejandro Mortez you`d currently be cumming over your screen watching him on youtube!!

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yea cause i always favor latino fighters :rolleyes:, don't mix me up with you, i'm not blindsided by patriotism ;)

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You believe every european fighter is second string and that north\south america pretty much owns the sport of boxing.

Ive got news for you....heavyweight, cruserweight, super middleweight - all currently run by fighters from our continent

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Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales

forgot the don't give a shit option

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If you don't give a shit then why waste your time posting? Seriously.. :rolleyes:

My thoughts: I like Khan. I've always been a fan of his, I don't give a shit about his race.. he's an entertaining fighter, he's talented, and he's a nice bloke. So what if he's a little over-ego at times.. so are alot of other fighters too, half of them don't get as much shit for it as Khan does.

I too have heard racist remarks towards Khan on a number of occassions, although generally by people who wouldn't know the difference between a straight left and a left hook. :p I hope he goes on to bigger and better things, and I think he will.. but I think he'll NEVER silence the haters.. if he took on Mayweather and Pac Man at the same time tomorrow, and knocked them both spark out, he'd still have Violent D calling him Kon.

Yes, I'd like to see him become an elite fighter. But no, I can't see it happening as eventually he's going to have to get in the ring with somebody who can punch to do it.

Sure. I don't care where he's from, but more elite boxers are never a bad thing and if it helps perpetuate the populatity of the sport in the U.K. then I'm all for it.

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Originally Posted by hattonthehammer

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Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales

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Originally Posted by hattonthehammer

But if his name was Alejandro Mortez you`d currently be cumming over your screen watching him on youtube!!

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yea cause i always favor latino fighters :rolleyes:, don't mix me up with you, i'm not blindsided by patriotism ;)

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You believe every european fighter is second string and that north\south america pretty much owns the sport of boxing.

Ive got news for you....heavyweight, cruserweight, super middleweight - all currently run by fighters from our continent

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yea, and i give the Klitschko's all the credit in the world

Cruiserweight's top 2 are Adamek (Poland) and Cunningham (USA)

umm super middleweight's top 10 is

1.Ward (USA)
2.Bute (Canada)
3.Froch (UK)
4.Kessler (Denmark)
5.Abraham (Germany)
6.Green (USA)
7.Bika (Australia, but guess that's Europe now :rolleyes:)
8.Dirrell (USA)
9.Andrade (Mexico)
10.Stieglitz (Germany)

so that's 5 for North/South America, 4 for Europe, and 1 for the Aussie's

don't really take it there buddy :-X

after saying that, i go by what i've always said, i don't give a shit where they're from, they represent themselves, not their countries

This is a super thread!!

YOU'RE RACIST.

NO YOU'RE RACIST

WHY ARE WE TALKING ABOUT RACISM?

YOU'RE A NATIONALIST.

NO YOU'RE A NATIONALIST.

MY NATION IS BETTER.

Anyway about Khan, I think he has an entertaining style a good amateur history, and a strong sponsor in Reebok, he has the celebrity trainer Roach in his corner so why not. I think he could use his skill set to be competitive against any top Light Welter that's currently considered elite. So yeah sure why not?

I don't care either way. I've never disliked Khan. I've broken his balls a bit but don't hate him. I think once he realizes that he's really not as good as he thinks he is, it might come as a bit of a Breidis Prescott... I mean shock.

I know that this thread is only about whether you want him to become elite or not and not whether he will which I find a rather strange question... No. I guess I wouldn't for no other reason then I think he can't.

You can't be elite if you can't take a decent shot. Fact

I do not like Khan because he is with Warren and PPV, and selectively managed to look better than he really is. If he proves me wrong I will be the first to give him credit but really he is not world class.

I just don't like Amir Khan end of, and its nothing to do with skin colour either. Infact how the hell did that even get brought up ? of course your going to get some racism in every fight.

That involves fighters from different countries or fighters with different skin colour, your not going to stop the odd couple of twats going to fights. Thinking that Britain is still stuck in the 50s.

But me personally i like fighters from all different countries and cultures, and sometimes i just don't like a boxer end of no matter where they come from. I never really liked Lennox Lewis much and rooted for Evander Holyfield over him.

And currently i don't like Carl Froch who is white and from the UK. My point is the dislike i have for a certain fighter, would never be what colour they are. And i honestly can't understand why people would think that in the first place.

ok MIKAY - neg repping is one thing, calling someone nazi scum is another especially if you're too much of a cowardly cunt to say it to peoples faces on the thread. Asshole.

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Originally Posted by Howlin Mad Missy

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Originally Posted by porkypara

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Originally Posted by ***********

We have already seen him fail but he is still very young.

BTW, I had no idea he was moving to MMA

Elite Fighting Championship - Elite Fighter Rankings

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Would I like to see him on an elite level? What do you mean by elite?

But what ever.. I don't mind seeing him on the elite level.

Chin is still a main concern. Hearns had a suspect and sometimes guilty chin and he became an elite. Hope to see Khan step it up soon if he is allowed. Right now they have him on training wheels ;D

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I just want to try and gage the the feelings for Khan on this site.

To me it seems natural to want your country men to do well in there sport but it seems with Khan people want to watch him fail.

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That's the thing. I'm not tribal so I prefer to support people I like for any number of reasons and not because I was born in the same country as them, to me that isn't rational.

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Same here - I prefer to stay rational ;D

Why do Khan threads always have to lead to accusations of racism? I find that really irritating.

I have a known history for disliking Khan and most of that emerged before and after the Barrera fight. We all know that I love Barrera and what happened in that fight sent me over the edge. I dislike injustice and Barrera copped a very raw deal. I don't think Khan came over particularly well in the build up to the fight nor carried himself very well afterwards. I loathed him for a good few months. One of the good things about not living in the UK though is that you don't need to meet the general public and you don't need to read the phoney sports media. I'm generally able to avoid any mention of Khan and so my loathing has been aloud to dissipate somewhat and I am now rather ambivalent about him. This Salita guy he is fighting is not on my radar and it's a fight that I can pretty much ignore. It won't matter to me who wins.

So, in response to the main question of the thread, I cannot say yes or no. It's more a case of me just not caring either way. I don't think he will ever become an elite fighter based on what I have seen though.

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Originally Posted by Howlin Mad Missy

ok MIKAY - neg repping is one thing, calling someone nazi scum is another especially if you're too much of a cowardly cunt to say it to peoples faces on the thread. Asshole.

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Nazi scum, eh? I assume you're the one on the left.

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Originally Posted by CFH

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Originally Posted by Howlin Mad Missy

ok MIKAY - neg repping is one thing, calling someone nazi scum is another especially if you're too much of a cowardly cunt to say it to peoples faces on the thread. Asshole.

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Nazi scum, eh? I assume you're the one on the left.

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I would imagine more Missy with black straight hairs, bigger breast and a whip in her nazi role somehow.

As for Khan, I quite like him a a boxer, he's exciting, has abilities and every tools except maybe an elite jaw, perfect for a drama. I assume the fact that I like him, no matter if it might make me unpopular to admit it.

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Originally Posted by CFH

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Originally Posted by Howlin Mad Missy

ok MIKAY - neg repping is one thing, calling someone nazi scum is another especially if you're too much of a cowardly cunt to say it to peoples faces on the thread. Asshole.

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Nazi scum, eh? I assume you're the one on the left.

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Originally Posted by miles

Why do Khan threads always have to lead to accusations of racism? I find that really irritating.

I have a known history for disliking Khan and most of that emerged before and after the Barrera fight. We all know that I love Barrera and what happened in that fight sent me over the edge. I dislike injustice and Barrera copped a very raw deal. I don't think Khan came over particularly well in the build up to the fight nor carried himself very well afterwards. I loathed him for a good few months. One of the good things about not living in the UK though is that you don't need to meet the general public and you don't need to read the phoney sports media. I'm generally able to avoid any mention of Khan and so my loathing has been aloud to dissipate somewhat and I am now rather ambivalent about him. This Salita guy he is fighting is not on my radar and it's a fight that I can pretty much ignore. It won't matter to me who wins.

So, in response to the main question of the thread, I cannot say yes or no. It's more a case of me just not caring either way. I don't think he will ever become an elite fighter based on what I have seen though.

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Nobody has accused anybody of being racists. All that's happened is me and HTH both had experience of wathcing Khan/Naz fights in public venues where racism has been very apparent, so it was brought up and discussed. Nothing remotely wrong with that and nothing to get irritated about.

Missy commented that racism was in force at Khan fights - from both sides.

I understand that topics like this are difficult to discuss because some people don't know how to deal with them (mikay for example - idiot), but it's a valid topic nontheless for the majority of the civilised saddonians.

I really hope Khan gets badly knocked out this weekend and we can all end the year on a high note in good spirits.

Miles has a point though.

You have to seperate the genuine racists attacking Khan from genuine boxing fans that just don't like him.

If you go into a pub where the whole place is shouting racist abuse at Khan they're probably not the best people to socialise with ;)

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Originally Posted by Fenster

Miles has a point though.

You have to seperate the genuine racists attacking Khan from genuine boxing fans that just don't like him.

If you go into a pub where the whole place is shouting racist abuse at Khan they're probably not the best people to socialise with ;)

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If you go in to a pub or arena to watch a fight you're not so much as socialising as sharing a venue.

The problem we have now is that no matter what reasons you give for not liking the chinny sod people take on this knowing attitude as if to say, 'I know that's what you say but the real reason is.....' nod nod wink wink ;)

BS.

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Originally Posted by GAME

I really hope Khan gets badly knocked out this weekend and we can all end the year on a high note in good spirits.

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You say that but what do you really think of him? :cool:

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Originally Posted by Howlin Mad Missy

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Originally Posted by Fenster

Miles has a point though.

You have to seperate the genuine racists attacking Khan from genuine boxing fans that just don't like him.

If you go into a pub where the whole place is shouting racist abuse at Khan they're probably not the best people to socialise with ;)

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If you go in to a pub or arena to watch a fight you're not so much as socialising as sharing a venue.

The problem we have now is that no matter what reasons you give for not liking the chinny sod people take on this knowing attitude as if to say, 'I know that's what you say but the real reason is.....' nod nod wink wink ;)

BS.

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My point entirely

You`d have to be either a lying toerag or someone who doesnt have a social status if at some point you havent heard some idiot profess to hating khan because of his race/religion

I was anti khan this time last year because the guy pre-roach didnt have what it took to mess it up with the big boys and i felt like his team were selling us short time and time again.

But khan has grown up big time in 2009, without doubt the most improved fighter of the year as he seems to mature with every performance. Didnt think he could handle barreras ring skills...he did, didnt think he`d be able to take kotelniks power..he did

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Originally Posted by hattonthehammer

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Originally Posted by Howlin Mad Missy

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Originally Posted by Fenster

Miles has a point though.

You have to seperate the genuine racists attacking Khan from genuine boxing fans that just don't like him.

If you go into a pub where the whole place is shouting racist abuse at Khan they're probably not the best people to socialise with ;)

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If you go in to a pub or arena to watch a fight you're not so much as socialising as sharing a venue.

The problem we have now is that no matter what reasons you give for not liking the chinny sod people take on this knowing attitude as if to say, 'I know that's what you say but the real reason is.....' nod nod wink wink ;)

BS.

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My point entirely

You`d have to be either a lying toerag or someone who doesnt have a social status if at some point you havent heard some idiot profess to hating khan because of his race/religion

I was anti khan this time last year because the guy pre-roach didnt have what it took to mess it up with the big boys and i felt like his team were selling us short time and time again.

But khan has grown up big time in 2009, without doubt the most improved fighter of the year as he seems to mature with every performance. Didnt think he could handle barreras ring skills...he did, didnt think he`d be able to take kotelniks power..he did

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You're lucky I'm getting some or my frustration would be taken out by kicking your ass.

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Originally Posted by Howlin Mad Missy

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Originally Posted by Fenster

Miles has a point though.

You have to seperate the genuine racists attacking Khan from genuine boxing fans that just don't like him.

If you go into a pub where the whole place is shouting racist abuse at Khan they're probably not the best people to socialise with ;)

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If you go in to a pub or arena to watch a fight you're not so much as socialising as sharing a venue.

The problem we have now is that no matter what reasons you give for not liking the chinny sod people take on this knowing attitude as if to say, 'I know that's what you say but the real reason is.....' nod nod wink wink ;)

BS.

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But if the pub is full of dodge pots and you're offened by racist talk you can go somewhere else to watch. If it's just a small minority being racist then that doesn't prove anything. That goes on everywhere about every colour.

not everywhere shows live fights.

of the high-profile british fighters he's one of my favs (can't stand froch or haye). yes, i hope he succeeds. but to do so he's gonna have to start facing some real names and not this endless list of nobodies.

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Originally Posted by TheBranMan

of the high-profile british fighters he's one of my favs (can't stand froch or haye). yes, i hope he succeeds. but to do so he's gonna have to start facing some real names and not this endless list of nobodies.

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Don't expect that to happen anytime soon, Warren will be keeping him safe for the foreseeable future

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Originally Posted by Howlin Mad Missy

not everywhere shows live fights.

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Must be a small town if you can only find a few places. So again you're dealing with a small minority that doesn't represent the mass view.

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Originally Posted by Fenster

Miles has a point though.

You have to seperate the genuine racists attacking Khan from genuine boxing fans that just don't like him.

If you go into a pub where the whole place is shouting racist abuse at Khan they're probably not the best people to socialise with ;)

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Right, I was called a racist a good while back when I was in full on anti-Khan mode and that irritated me. I have read a lot of Khan threads and see people raising the point that race is the reason why Khan is so disliked, but personally I just see a whole bunch of other reasons why I'm not so keen on him. It's too easy to bring up the race card, though I am sure there are a fair few racists out there too.

My original statement on this thread was more of a thinking aloud moment than anything else anyway. Racists are all gay, and those that needlessly accuse others of racism are supergay. Khan fans are just downright peculiar....:p

I voted no because he won't if he gets out of 2009 he won't get out of 2010 without being KO'd ;):cool:

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Originally Posted by Fenster

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Originally Posted by Howlin Mad Missy

not everywhere shows live fights.

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Must be a small town if you can only find a few places. So again you're dealing with a small minority that doesn't represent the mass view.

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True.

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Originally Posted by Howlin Mad Missy

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Originally Posted by Fenster

Miles has a point though.

You have to seperate the genuine racists attacking Khan from genuine boxing fans that just don't like him.

If you go into a pub where the whole place is shouting racist abuse at Khan they're probably not the best people to socialise with ;)

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If you go in to a pub or arena to watch a fight you're not so much as socialising as sharing a venue.

The problem we have now is that no matter what reasons you give for not liking the chinny sod people take on this knowing attitude as if to say, 'I know that's what you say but the real reason is.....' nod nod wink wink ;)

BS.

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I hope you don't mean me there?:p

I agree with the sharing a venue bit. You can't help which dick heads turn up to watch the fight (at the arena or in a pub).

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Originally Posted by Tysonbruno

I voted no because he won't if he gets out of 2009 he won't get out of 2010 without being KO'd ;):cool:

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But what do you want to happen not what do you think will happen?

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Originally Posted by Fenster

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Originally Posted by Howlin Mad Missy

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Originally Posted by Fenster

Miles has a point though.

You have to seperate the genuine racists attacking Khan from genuine boxing fans that just don't like him.

If you go into a pub where the whole place is shouting racist abuse at Khan they're probably not the best people to socialise with ;)

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If you go in to a pub or arena to watch a fight you're not so much as socialising as sharing a venue.

The problem we have now is that no matter what reasons you give for not liking the chinny sod people take on this knowing attitude as if to say, 'I know that's what you say but the real reason is.....' nod nod wink wink ;)

BS.

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But if the pub is full of dodge pots and you're offened by racist talk you can go somewhere else to watch. If it's just a small minority being racist then that doesn't prove anything. That goes on everywhere about every colour.

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Yeah i agree but it would be nice to not have to miss the fight looking for a venue that isn't full of bigots...which seems very hard in Leeds when Khan's on.

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Originally Posted by Howlin Mad Missy

ok MIKAY - neg repping is one thing, calling someone nazi scum is another especially if you're too much of a cowardly cunt to say it to peoples faces on the thread. Asshole.

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Nazi scum, eh? I assume you're the one on the left.

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ah, Helga. Can I request this theme for the Mods annual Christmas party?:)

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Color me surprise:cool:

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Originally Posted by Nameless

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Nazi scum, eh? I assume you're the one on the left.

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ah, Helga. Can I request this theme for the Mods annual Christmas party?:)

& Nameless, my hair is dark and I do own a couple of whips.

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Color me surprise:cool:

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;D

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Originally Posted by porkypara

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Originally Posted by Tysonbruno

I voted no because he won't if he gets out of 2009 he won't get out of 2010 without being KO'd ;):cool:

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But what do you want to happen not what do you think will happen?

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I don't want him to become elite if he becomes an elite fighter the sport must be on it arse but it won't happen anyway;)

why are some Khan fans so desperate for everyone to accept him?

Mikay just made me cry with laughter, sending me bad rep saying Nazi scum LOL.