BIG CHANCE That he wont win.Quote:
Originally Posted by killersheep
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BIG CHANCE That he wont win.Quote:
Originally Posted by killersheep
It's Pacman decision if ever he will retire already. He has the fame and wealth already. :)
Remember this is the Philippines where things are very different. He is a national hero here, but not for his acting on the screen or political ambitions, The public here will definitely want that fight to happen.Quote:
Originally Posted by killersheepReally? I get mad when my representitives take a day off for golf. Ah well what's more important? Rebuilding Baguio city or a fight with Mayweather?Quote:
Originally Posted by djcione+++++++++++Quote:
Originally Posted by killersheep
It is reported here that he has a better chance of winning this year. If he wins, he will have to be sworn in sometime in July. No one in the press, to my knowledge, has addressed the issue if he can still box and be able to stay in Congress. My gut feeling is that Congress would give him a leave to make this mega fight.
The PED contreversy is so clear cut for me personally. Facts are facts ladies and gents. If you do research...you clearly will find that the drugs are ahead of the CURRENT TESTING in sports. The ONLY way to know 100% if an athlete is clean is to have a muscle biopsy done. No organizing sports body is going to allow that...and even if they did...good luck having 99% of the athletes being open to it. The fact that Pac was hesitant to even have his blood tested up to a certain point is clearly suspicious. When someone uses incredibly lame excuses like: "pride", "it will weaken me", etc....they look even MORE suspicious. If i am a professional athlete...and right or wrong...i am being accused/suspected of doing PED's...and i know i am clean...i would not hesitate to do WHATEVER it takes to clear my name. Bottom line. Now don't get me wrong...it would not shock me if many superstars, including Floyd, have done or are currently on PED's. But for whatever reason...the spotlight is on Pac right now. So why not take the test...clear your name...and go on to fight? If he wins...he could shove it downs Floyd's throat even more. But no...he is evading it...haggling with the issue...using lame excuses. So he deserves the heat.
Exactly!
The tests Nevada does currently are useless and like someone said testing after the fight is pointless, we have Toney, Jones jr and Mosely that have failed tests but after they have won their fights, the damage was done, too late.
Manny could have offered Mosely the bout before Floyd did, theres another opponent along with Bradley.
As far as Bradly not being a viable opponent because of his size, it was Arum who mentioned him as an opponent along with Malignagi:rolleyes:
the reason he couldnt fight Bradley was his management said they wouldnt fight Manny without the same tests floyd wanted;D
And if he does win?...........as the other poster stated would he be granted time off to train for a big fight? (2 months) or would the people hold him accountable to represent them?Quote:
Originally Posted by miron_langBIG CHANCE That he wont win.Quote:
Originally Posted by killersheep
Horrible, horrible thing to contemplate pac-mayweather at no stage happening.
Our sport is at war with others who are able to market there franchises a hell of a lot better than we can. If we cant get the 2 biggest fighters into a ring together we may as well just all give up now and go watch WWF
This fight would be a huge event, but it is not the end all of boxing, there are still many great matches out there.Quote:
Originally Posted by hattonthehammer
Just talk to create hype and sell tickets....whats new?
Can't believe that you guys are still talking about this crap. Nothing new, saying the same s hit over and over again. It's getting old and boring. :cwm33:
Here we go again. After pac beats clottey we end up again on the same shit over and over again. I mean not coming from a pachugger but coming to a perspective from a fan who sees the hope of boxing upon some little guy's shoulder being tarnished endlessly in this site, give this guy a fucking break. Isn't it ridiculous that after we see him achive something every now and then, instead of a hand of salute :"thanks pac for doing this for boxing" we have mud being thrown to the little guy? Why not focus on the future of seeing this 2 divas destroy each other? Fair enough?Quote:
Originally Posted by blegit
Suspicion is good as long as you give the guy some benefit of a doubt. But we only raise suspicion. WE MUST NOT ACCUSE AS A FINAL CONCLUSION. We really don't know what's behind of all of this potion a-meth shit. It's as if EVERY FUCKIN THING THAT COMES OFF THAT CRACK HEAD'S MOUTH WE FUCKIN SWALLOW! Where's your dignity, guys? Why don't we be careful in accepting things out of the grapevine before we jump in to conclusions as if they are part of some monumental truth? Are we really helping boxing in itself or are we helping the hate campaign of some few who have agenda's on there own? THINK GUYS THINK! You all call yourselves boxing analysts impartial but i don't know, man! I don't fuckin know..:confused:
this thread was made how long ago? hahaha what a rejectQuote:
Originally Posted by mad_takamuraHere we go again. After pac beats clottey we end up again on the same shit over and over again. I mean not coming from a pachugger but coming to a perspective from a fan who sees the hope of boxing upon some little guy's shoulder being tarnished endlessly in this site, give this guy a fucking break. Isn't it ridiculous that after we see him achive something every now and then, instead of a hand of salute :"thanks pac for doing this for boxing" we have mud being thrown to the little guy? Why not focus on the future of seeing this 2 divas destroy each other? Fair enough?Quote:
Originally Posted by blegit
Suspicion is good as long as you give the guy some benefit of a doubt. But we only raise suspicion. WE MUST NOT ACCUSE AS A FINAL CONCLUSION. We really don't know what's behind of all of this potion a-meth shit. It's as if EVERY FUCKIN THING THAT COMES OFF THAT CRACK HEAD'S MOUTH WE FUCKIN SWALLOW! Where's your dignity, guys? Why don't we be careful in accepting things out of the grapevine before we jump in to conclusions as if they are part of some monumental truth? Are we really helping boxing in itself or are we helping the hate campaign of some few who have agenda's on there own? THINK GUYS THINK! You all call yourselves boxing analysts impartial but i don't know, man! I don't fuckin know..:confused:
I MAY BE LATE BUT THE SHIT ABOUT PAC HAVING PILL POTION SEEM TO BE FOREVER DON'TCHA THINK? And please see the logic to WHO I REPLIED WITH? My point is same shit over and over again. This same shit haters like you feast with?.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralesthis thread was made how long ago? hahaha what a rejectQuote:
Originally Posted by mad_takamuraHere we go again. After pac beats clottey we end up again on the same shit over and over again. I mean not coming from a pachugger but coming to a perspective from a fan who sees the hope of boxing upon some little guy's shoulder being tarnished endlessly in this site, give this guy a fucking break. Isn't it ridiculous that after we see him achive something every now and then, instead of a hand of salute :"thanks pac for doing this for boxing" we have mud being thrown to the little guy? Why not focus on the future of seeing this 2 divas destroy each other? Fair enough?Quote:
Originally Posted by blegit
Suspicion is good as long as you give the guy some benefit of a doubt. But we only raise suspicion. WE MUST NOT ACCUSE AS A FINAL CONCLUSION. We really don't know what's behind of all of this potion a-meth shit. It's as if EVERY FUCKIN THING THAT COMES OFF THAT CRACK HEAD'S MOUTH WE FUCKIN SWALLOW! Where's your dignity, guys? Why don't we be careful in accepting things out of the grapevine before we jump in to conclusions as if they are part of some monumental truth? Are we really helping boxing in itself or are we helping the hate campaign of some few who have agenda's on there own? THINK GUYS THINK! You all call yourselves boxing analysts impartial but i don't know, man! I don't fuckin know..:confused:
When we move servers can we leave Mad Takamura behind??
Pleeeeasssee Saddo ;D
i second that motion ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by JazMerkin
If manny wins the election, he won't be the "mind" of his political career (he'll have a number of willing political advisers to do that), he will only be the face of his political career. So if he does win the election, and the fight against floyd materialize; he'll most likely be allowed to train for the fight. congress and the people we'll support him to represent and bring "honor" to the country. He could even make it "dramatic" by retiring after winning the election then after a couple of months comes back out of retirement to fight floyd.Quote:
Originally Posted by killersheepAnd if he does win?...........as the other poster stated would he be granted time off to train for a big fight? (2 months) or would the people hold him accountable to represent them?Quote:
Originally Posted by miron_langBIG CHANCE That he wont win.Quote:
Originally Posted by killersheep
However come next re-election, his political detractors will use that issue in their campaign especially if he losses the fight against floyd.
Theres only Mayweather left for him to fight if theres no deal he cant do anythign about it
Dude your just mad he punked all the Mexican Legends. Pac would destroy Mayweather...Mayweather is a freaking joke and was forced into the Mosley fight by HBO and Fans.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales
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Dude your just mad he punked all the Mexican Legends
First fight with Morales, both fights with Marquez. Not sure if we can say "ALL Mexicans".
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Pac would destroy Mayweather
There is a possibility, sure, it can go both ways.
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Mayweather is a freaking joke and was forced into the Mosley fight by HBO and Fans
A fighter can't be "forced" to fight someone. They can easily let go a belt or a fight. Fans forced a fight between Pacquiao and Mayweather and we know that happened there. Floyd went for a bigger challenge instead of picking an easy way out vs Clottey who wouldn't ask him for blood tests in exchange for a million dollar paycheck:rolleyes:.
yea that must be it....:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by CountryBoyDude your just mad he punked all the Mexican Legends. Pac would destroy Mayweather...Mayweather is a freaking joke and was forced into the Mosley fight by HBO and Fans.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales
and who was it that quickly ran after another opponent rather than take a simple drug test?
and yea Mayweather's a joke yet you think Morrison is an ATG :-X:rolleyes:
Let him retire....and take floyd and both sets of fans with you. I wouldn't mind seeing the two fight but not bad enough to sit through months of all the ridiculous bullshit. Two fighters out of the thousands out there are holding back the sport imo. People act like floyd and pac and the end all of boxing, it's getting old. The fight would not live anywhere near up to the hype anyway. Both are great fighters but everyone seems like they have to shit on one to appreciate the other. Screw em both.
YEAH I'll push both of you el terrible to another server called man-love dimension so that both ofyou can have some privacy you're longing for, JEZ MARKIN.Quote:
Originally Posted by JazMerkin
HAHAHAHA i see you started hitting the crack pipe early today ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by mad_takamuraYEAH I'll push both of you el terrible to another server called man-love dimension so that both ofyou can have some privacy you're longing for, JEZ MARKIN.Quote:
Originally Posted by JazMerkin
Thanks for the reply really appreciate it, I'll rep you when I can again.Quote:
Originally Posted by charliebauer24If manny wins the election, he won't be the "mind" of his political career (he'll have a number of willing political advisers to do that), he will only be the face of his political career. So if he does win the election, and the fight against floyd materialize; he'll most likely be allowed to train for the fight. congress and the people we'll support him to represent and bring "honor" to the country. He could even make it "dramatic" by retiring after winning the election then after a couple of months comes back out of retirement to fight floyd.Quote:
Originally Posted by killersheepAnd if he does win?...........as the other poster stated would he be granted time off to train for a big fight? (2 months) or would the people hold him accountable to represent them?Quote:
Originally Posted by miron_lang
However come next re-election, his political detractors will use that issue in their campaign especially if he losses the fight against floyd.
So Pacquiao penned the 3/13 date so he could start his campaign today, has he started then? So in the Philippines, politicians are just talking heads? Maybe the US and the Philippines aren't so different after all ;D
Also, what happened to the law suit? Is that still going forward? If not why?
I'm not an expert on the subject, but Filipino politics is a sad joke. It is one of the most corrupt countries in the world, and there are always scandals about who's taking more $$$ from the govt. It is also controlled by most of the old, filthy rich, land owner families who just pass on their positions to sons and daughters. Vote buying is very common here since the masses are so poor.
Manny is facing one of those old families, and they say it will be close. The elections are less than 2 months away so he needs to get back here soon if he wants to win. The last i heard he was supposed to be in Hawaii to headline a concert, but now they are saying it was canceled because of poor ticket sales. I know that he's not in the Philippines- when he comes back it will be super headlines here.
Most of the people still don't want to see him in the dirty world of politics. The sessions are held in English, and he can barely speak it. Some also say he could help the poor in his area more by setting up foundations and programs for them. No doubt he has the resources; he's an extremely wealthy guy since it was recently reported that he's the 6th highest paid athlete in the world.
I'm not sure what his motives are-he's affiliated with a Presidential candidate who's been accused, rather convincingly, of swindling the govt for millions as a senator, and bribing other candidates to drop out of the race. He is one of the richest persons in the country.
Arum is still going through with the lawsuit- he recently was quoted as saying that he'll win it just like Manny will beat Floyd.
You seem to have an obsession with homosexuality. Is it because your dad beats you every time he catches you playing the single string air guitar over pictures of Justin Timberlake? :-XQuote:
Originally Posted by mad_takamuraYEAH I'll push both of you el terrible to another server called man-love dimension so that both ofyou can have some privacy you're longing for, JEZ MARKIN.Quote:
Originally Posted by JazMerkin
Don't worry Takamura, the whole Saddo's community is here to help you come to terms with your pillow-biting ways.
Arum isn't listed as the plaintiff, only Pacquiao is. Unless Arum started a second law suit....................Quote:
Originally Posted by djcione
The whole situation is just sad. Boxing will have to catch up with mainstream sports at some point (unless it ends up a roided-up joke like WWE). Manny will likely go down in history as the last of the great roiding fighters and someone who vigorously opposed better testing methods so that he could continue to cheat. Banging on about the glorious lawsuit, Arum's name will likely be aligned with Don King, Hitler and Satan.
...and this is only predicted from what we know now. Everyone knows there's a lot that goes on outside of the public eye and history has a funny way of revealing itself. ;)