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    Default Re: Pacquiao possibly to retire after Clottey

    Good god, we're not gonna start another blood testing thread are we?

    Some people, believe one side.............Some people, believe the other side.

    NO PEOPLE ARE GOING TO CHANGE THEIR VIEWS!!

    So let's get back to my question.

    I understand he is considered a bit of a joke politically and lost pretty bad last time, BUT what if he wins the election? It seems that boxing fans are writing this off as a foregone conclusion he's going to lose. Someone's got to win and in politics anything can happen.
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    Default Re: Pacquiao possibly to retire after Clottey

    Quote Originally Posted by killersheep View Post
    Good god, we're not gonna start another blood testing thread are we?

    Some people, believe one side.............Some people, believe the other side.

    NO PEOPLE ARE GOING TO CHANGE THEIR VIEWS!!

    So let's get back to my question.

    I understand he is considered a bit of a joke politically and lost pretty bad last time, BUT what if he wins the election? It seems that boxing fans are writing this off as a foregone conclusion he's going to lose. Someone's got to win and in politics anything can happen.
    I agree with you that this should have already been a dead topic. But people keeps bringing it up and I feel the urge to bring up the other side of the story. This forum should be seen as balanced, is it not? To the other posters, give the blood test issue a rest and you won't be hearing from me. They moved on so we must move on.

    You have a good question there. What if Pacquiao wins the election, what happens to his boxing career?

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    Default Re: Pacquiao possibly to retire after Clottey

    Quote Originally Posted by killersheep View Post
    Good god, we're not gonna start another blood testing thread are we?

    Some people, believe one side.............Some people, believe the other side.

    NO PEOPLE ARE GOING TO CHANGE THEIR VIEWS!!

    So let's get back to my question.

    I understand he is considered a bit of a joke politically and lost pretty bad last time, BUT what if he wins the election? It seems that boxing fans are writing this off as a foregone conclusion he's going to lose. Someone's got to win and in politics anything can happen.
    Honestly, I am not interested about the result of his elections, what matters to me is his boxing skills and what he can achieve on the ring. If he drops the floyd's fight for a matter of blood test, what I think is quite clear, no matter what: Legacy stained, though I wouldn't accuse him automatically of enhancing drug use.
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    Default Re: Pacquiao possibly to retire after Clottey

    Quote Originally Posted by Nameless View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by killersheep View Post
    Good god, we're not gonna start another blood testing thread are we?

    Some people, believe one side.............Some people, believe the other side.

    NO PEOPLE ARE GOING TO CHANGE THEIR VIEWS!!

    So let's get back to my question.

    I understand he is considered a bit of a joke politically and lost pretty bad last time, BUT what if he wins the election? It seems that boxing fans are writing this off as a foregone conclusion he's going to lose. Someone's got to win and in politics anything can happen.
    Honestly, I am not interested about the result of his elections, what matters to me is his boxing skills and what he can achieve on the ring. If he drops the floyd's fight for a matter of blood test, what I think is quite clear, no matter what: Legacy stained, though I wouldn't accuse him automatically of enhancing drug use.
    My interest in the election results is how it relates to his boxing though. Say he does win, what does that do to the possibility to a fight with Mayweather?

    Does it make it impossible in the short term? Does it eliminate the opportunity for the duration of his term in office?
    For every story told that divides us, I believe there are a thousand untold that unite us.

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    Default Re: Pacquiao possibly to retire after Clottey

    Quote Originally Posted by killersheep View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Nameless View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by killersheep View Post
    Good god, we're not gonna start another blood testing thread are we?

    Some people, believe one side.............Some people, believe the other side.

    NO PEOPLE ARE GOING TO CHANGE THEIR VIEWS!!

    So let's get back to my question.

    I understand he is considered a bit of a joke politically and lost pretty bad last time, BUT what if he wins the election? It seems that boxing fans are writing this off as a foregone conclusion he's going to lose. Someone's got to win and in politics anything can happen.
    Honestly, I am not interested about the result of his elections, what matters to me is his boxing skills and what he can achieve on the ring. If he drops the floyd's fight for a matter of blood test, what I think is quite clear, no matter what: Legacy stained, though I wouldn't accuse him automatically of enhancing drug use.
    My interest in the election results is how it relates to his boxing though. Say he does win, what does that do to the possibility to a fight with Mayweather?

    Does it make it impossible in the short term? Does it eliminate the opportunity for the duration of his term in office?
    Ok, from that angle, I would say: the biggest publicity stunt ever to increase his popularity infront of the public, even a lost could easily be marketed to increase the whole thing.
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    Default Re: Pacquiao possibly to retire after Clottey

    Quote Originally Posted by killersheep View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Nameless View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by killersheep View Post
    Good god, we're not gonna start another blood testing thread are we?

    Some people, believe one side.............Some people, believe the other side.

    NO PEOPLE ARE GOING TO CHANGE THEIR VIEWS!!

    So let's get back to my question.

    I understand he is considered a bit of a joke politically and lost pretty bad last time, BUT what if he wins the election? It seems that boxing fans are writing this off as a foregone conclusion he's going to lose. Someone's got to win and in politics anything can happen.
    Honestly, I am not interested about the result of his elections, what matters to me is his boxing skills and what he can achieve on the ring. If he drops the floyd's fight for a matter of blood test, what I think is quite clear, no matter what: Legacy stained, though I wouldn't accuse him automatically of enhancing drug use.
    My interest in the election results is how it relates to his boxing though. Say he does win, what does that do to the possibility to a fight with Mayweather?

    Does it make it impossible in the short term? Does it eliminate the opportunity for the duration of his term in office?
    +++++++++++

    It is reported here that he has a better chance of winning this year. If he wins, he will have to be sworn in sometime in July. No one in the press, to my knowledge, has addressed the issue if he can still box and be able to stay in Congress. My gut feeling is that Congress would give him a leave to make this mega fight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by djcione View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by killersheep View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Nameless View Post

    Honestly, I am not interested about the result of his elections, what matters to me is his boxing skills and what he can achieve on the ring. If he drops the floyd's fight for a matter of blood test, what I think is quite clear, no matter what: Legacy stained, though I wouldn't accuse him automatically of enhancing drug use.
    My interest in the election results is how it relates to his boxing though. Say he does win, what does that do to the possibility to a fight with Mayweather?

    Does it make it impossible in the short term? Does it eliminate the opportunity for the duration of his term in office?
    +++++++++++

    It is reported here that he has a better chance of winning this year. If he wins, he will have to be sworn in sometime in July. No one in the press, to my knowledge, has addressed the issue if he can still box and be able to stay in Congress. My gut feeling is that Congress would give him a leave to make this mega fight.
    Really? I get mad when my representitives take a day off for golf. Ah well what's more important? Rebuilding Baguio city or a fight with Mayweather?
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    Quote Originally Posted by killersheep View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by djcione View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by killersheep View Post

    My interest in the election results is how it relates to his boxing though. Say he does win, what does that do to the possibility to a fight with Mayweather?

    Does it make it impossible in the short term? Does it eliminate the opportunity for the duration of his term in office?
    +++++++++++

    It is reported here that he has a better chance of winning this year. If he wins, he will have to be sworn in sometime in July. No one in the press, to my knowledge, has addressed the issue if he can still box and be able to stay in Congress. My gut feeling is that Congress would give him a leave to make this mega fight.
    Really? I get mad when my representitives take a day off for golf. Ah well what's more important? Rebuilding Baguio city or a fight with Mayweather?
    Remember this is the Philippines where things are very different. He is a national hero here, but not for his acting on the screen or political ambitions, The public here will definitely want that fight to happen.

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    Default Re: Pacquiao possibly to retire after Clottey

    Quote Originally Posted by killersheep View Post
    Good god, we're not gonna start another blood testing thread are we?

    Some people, believe one side.............Some people, believe the other side.

    NO PEOPLE ARE GOING TO CHANGE THEIR VIEWS!!

    So let's get back to my question.

    I understand he is considered a bit of a joke politically and lost pretty bad last time, BUT what if he wins the election? It seems that boxing fans are writing this off as a foregone conclusion he's going to lose. Someone's got to win and in politics anything can happen.
    BIG CHANCE That he wont win.

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    Smile Re: Pacquiao possibly to retire after Clottey

    It's Pacman decision if ever he will retire already. He has the fame and wealth already.

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    Default Re: Pacquiao possibly to retire after Clottey

    The PED contreversy is so clear cut for me personally. Facts are facts ladies and gents. If you do research...you clearly will find that the drugs are ahead of the CURRENT TESTING in sports. The ONLY way to know 100% if an athlete is clean is to have a muscle biopsy done. No organizing sports body is going to allow that...and even if they did...good luck having 99% of the athletes being open to it. The fact that Pac was hesitant to even have his blood tested up to a certain point is clearly suspicious. When someone uses incredibly lame excuses like: "pride", "it will weaken me", etc....they look even MORE suspicious. If i am a professional athlete...and right or wrong...i am being accused/suspected of doing PED's...and i know i am clean...i would not hesitate to do WHATEVER it takes to clear my name. Bottom line. Now don't get me wrong...it would not shock me if many superstars, including Floyd, have done or are currently on PED's. But for whatever reason...the spotlight is on Pac right now. So why not take the test...clear your name...and go on to fight? If he wins...he could shove it downs Floyd's throat even more. But no...he is evading it...haggling with the issue...using lame excuses. So he deserves the heat.

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    Default Re: Pacquiao possibly to retire after Clottey

    Exactly!

    The tests Nevada does currently are useless and like someone said testing after the fight is pointless, we have Toney, Jones jr and Mosely that have failed tests but after they have won their fights, the damage was done, too late.

    Manny could have offered Mosely the bout before Floyd did, theres another opponent along with Bradley.

    As far as Bradly not being a viable opponent because of his size, it was Arum who mentioned him as an opponent along with Malignagi

    the reason he couldnt fight Bradley was his management said they wouldnt fight Manny without the same tests floyd wanted
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    Default Re: Pacquiao possibly to retire after Clottey

    Quote Originally Posted by miron_lang View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by killersheep View Post
    Good god, we're not gonna start another blood testing thread are we?

    Some people, believe one side.............Some people, believe the other side.

    NO PEOPLE ARE GOING TO CHANGE THEIR VIEWS!!

    So let's get back to my question.

    I understand he is considered a bit of a joke politically and lost pretty bad last time, BUT what if he wins the election? It seems that boxing fans are writing this off as a foregone conclusion he's going to lose. Someone's got to win and in politics anything can happen.
    BIG CHANCE That he wont win.
    And if he does win?...........as the other poster stated would he be granted time off to train for a big fight? (2 months) or would the people hold him accountable to represent them?
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    Default Re: Pacquiao possibly to retire after Clottey

    Horrible, horrible thing to contemplate pac-mayweather at no stage happening.

    Our sport is at war with others who are able to market there franchises a hell of a lot better than we can. If we cant get the 2 biggest fighters into a ring together we may as well just all give up now and go watch WWF
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    Default Re: Pacquiao possibly to retire after Clottey

    Quote Originally Posted by hattonthehammer View Post
    Horrible, horrible thing to contemplate pac-mayweather at no stage happening.

    Our sport is at war with others who are able to market there franchises a hell of a lot better than we can. If we cant get the 2 biggest fighters into a ring together we may as well just all give up now and go watch WWF
    This fight would be a huge event, but it is not the end all of boxing, there are still many great matches out there.
    For every story told that divides us, I believe there are a thousand untold that unite us.

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