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I guess for your health it is best to get zapped like Con but as far as being a man and being able to be proud of your performance I would say 12 round beat down.....Yeah Lacy got owned but he never stopped trying.....
Stumbling around the ring like a drunk isnt something Khan should bring up ever again.....and to say that KO he suffered is better than any alterntive is lunacy.
Call me a wuss, call me yellow, but I'd take the quick ko any day of the week. Sure the ko might be more embarassing, but I'm of the thought live to fight another day...and I think a quick ko gives you a much better chance at that. Hence I really don't like to see overly brutal boxing matches, but there have been plenty of fights when I wish a corner or ref would stop a fight when a fighter is clearly overmatched, but they just let it go on in the hopes of landing that one shot, but how often does that happen, half the time the dude don't even have ko power....
I don't think taking a beating for 12 rounds is anything to be proud of to be honest.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hunter
I think people really are too into the "you never got me down Ray" mentality because everyone wants to be a warrior.
A warrior is a warrior because they can be nothing else, even Arturo Gatti once he learned how to box tried not to take punishment in his fights. Some fighters would like to have a brain left when their career is done and be able to play with their children whilst not being punch drunk or having brain damage.
Sure taking a beating for 12 rounds may prove you're a "warrior" to a bunch of fans who ultimately do nothing for your life but fill your pockets and once the fight is over so are they. And when you are in your mid 40s but can barely do anything or barely talk right or are punch drunk the only thing those fans are good for is talking about how sorry they are at how your life turned out because you were a true "warrior".
So getting starched in one and getting critisized is better in the long run then taking a beating for 12 rounds ending up punch drunk but hey at least people will still call you a 'warrior'
Honestly, I think the whole warrior thing is overrated.
if you don't believe me ask Gerald McClennan, or ask Billy Collins' or Leavander Johnston's parents rather they'd wished their child was knocked out by one punch in the first round rather then taking a beating for 12 rounds and had they been knocked out in one round as opposed to the other maybe you'd be able to ask them yourself.
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Originally Posted by onoWhen it was waved off against Rahman, Lewis was on the floor. I watched it last night on KOTV on Channel 5.Quote:
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Originally Posted by Fenster
ermm.....well he was wasnt he??
The ref stopped the fight instead of counting to 10
Lewis has been floored twice in his career. Both times the ref stopped him and both times he got revenge.
When someone is Knocked out real early it can be an embarrassment or a wake up call that you were not ready and could be hurt. To take a beating and do your best hearing that final bell means that you knew you would make it to the end. My contention is not to hear oops form an early departure in my future and adapt so that I would not get too hurt and make that opponent remember that I wasn't easy so I am guilty of pride through pain.
Hey I agree with you but I dont think it is something for Khan to brag about......When you get starched in one round by a nobody, it is best to keep that to yourself, not tweet about it.Quote:
Originally Posted by MajestyI don't think taking a beating for 12 rounds is anything to be proud of to be honest.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hunter
I think people really are too into the "you never got me down Ray" mentality because everyone wants to be a warrior.
A warrior is a warrior because they can be nothing else, even Arturo Gatti once he learned how to box tried not to take punishment in his fights. Some fighters would like to have a brain left when their career is done and be able to play with their children whilst not being punch drunk or having brain damage.
Sure taking a beating for 12 rounds may prove you're a "warrior" to a bunch of fans who ultimately do nothing for your life but fill your pockets and once the fight is over so are they. And when you are in your mid 40s but can barely do anything or barely talk right or are punch drunk the only thing those fans are good for is talking about how sorry they are at how your life turned out because you were a true "warrior".
So getting starched in one and getting critisized is better in the long run then taking a beating for 12 rounds ending up punch drunk but hey at least people will still call you a 'warrior'
Honestly, I think the whole warrior thing is overrated.
if you don't believe me ask Gerald McClennan, or ask Billy Collins' or Leavander Johnston's parents rather they'd wished their child was knocked out by one punch in the first round rather then taking a beating for 12 rounds and had they been knocked out in one round as opposed to the other maybe you'd be able to ask them yourself.
How would you rather lose a fight?
Fuck it, I say a Mike Tyson disqualification from biting someone's ears. He didn't get his ass kicked for 12 rounds or getting sparked out cold. So if one is going to lose might as well not take a beating or get that instant 1 shot ko, plus someone like Mike got paid 30 million for it.
A Mike Tyson DQ for the win!:)
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Originally Posted by generalbulldog
Depends on how much punishment I take in the 12 rounder marquez didn't take much Lacy did. as being brutally knocked out in quick fashion can also ruin a fighter, look at Roy Jones.
i'd rather go the distance
Its a pride thing for me ...... 12 rounds and im still standing
but on the switch side ...
i couldnt kid myself that i got hit with a lucky shot and i would have won otherwise haha;)
I think I have misunderstood the question, I thought as a fan what or a preson what would you rather do, which I am sure everyone would rather go 12 for a pride point of view and the fat you would be ridiculed for getting KTFO.
If I was a fighter and for my career I would think about getting ko'd more as being better for my career but I don't think I could ever prefer to be knocked out.
I'm in the minority here I guess but i believe that being outclassed and beaten up is worse physically and psychologically then just getting caught. Those grueling beat downs end careers look at Chavez Taylor.
i'd wait for him to hit me in the stomach and go down for a pretend ko, where i just looked a little winded and not able to beat the count, but not humiliatingly so.
That sounds humiliating enough.Quote:
Originally Posted by bestjabwins
heh heh. Yeah. its the lesser humiliation though. I'd rather suffer something like morales's fate in his third fight against pacquiao than hattons.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterThat sounds humiliating enough.Quote:
Originally Posted by bestjabwins
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Originally Posted by bestjabwinsheh heh. Yeah. its the lesser humiliation though. I'd rather suffer something like morales's fate in his third fight against pacquiao than hattons.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterThat sounds humiliating enough.Quote:
Originally Posted by bestjabwins
No humiliation in losing to a steroid cheat....