Is Amir Khan ready to become a legend?

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Originally Posted by Mark TKO

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Originally Posted by HattonTheHammer

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Originally Posted by Pacstraightleft

Amir won't be able to outrun Maidana's tomahawks for 12 rounds 6 rounds.

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I think he will

roach will have khan on his toes for 12rounds and telling him to fight in short bursts with those fast combinations he can land. I see maidana trying to chase khan down and getting hit at will.

Khan UD win

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thats exactly the way I see it - he may even get a late stoppage win as Maidana has to go for it late on and tires

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agreed

completely unlike paulie malignaggi who went into survival mode which enabled khan to pile on the pressure

Maidana's chin aint all that ladies and gents, this could end early, Maidana is not that good and Khan is improving with every fight with Roach.

I will take Khan via late stoppage but would not be surprised if the ref ended this early.

I'm not familar with this Fantana guy. Is he genuine or is he a troll?

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Originally Posted by skel1983

Maidana's chin aint all that ladies and gents, this could end early, Maidana is not that good and Khan is improving with every fight with Roach.

I will take Khan via late stoppage but would not be surprised if the ref ended this early.

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Roach isn't all that either. He let Tyson come in the worse shape ever and James Toney too. Roach is what he is because Pac is the best fighter to come to him and actually improve. Khan hasn't improved that much. He simply stays more cautious and stays on the outside. Very useful against Paulie Malignaggi.

The question will be how will Khan respond to at least 1 flush shot on the chin from a Maidana type fighter.

Because although Khan has improved, he is not going to accomplish this.

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Originally Posted by erics44

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Originally Posted by ono

I never understand this argument. Surely a fighter who has slightly less power, but who has the ability to land much more frequently has the best chance of knocking him out? I say this, because even somebody as light punching as Limond, almost stopped him.

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limond put him down but i think almost stopping him is a bit of a exaggeration

Kahn is a completely different fighter now

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Eh, Khan was down for longer than 10 seconds if i remember correctly. He was all over the shop. I'd love to see your definition of 'out on his feet' if you think Khan wasn't close to being stopped.

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Originally Posted by miles

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Originally Posted by skel1983

Maidana's chin aint all that ladies and gents, this could end early, Maidana is not that good and Khan is improving with every fight with Roach.

I will take Khan via late stoppage but would not be surprised if the ref ended this early.

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Roach isn't all that either. He let Tyson come in the worse shape ever and James Toney too. Roach is what he is because Pac is the best fighter to come to him and actually improve. Khan hasn't improved that much. He simply stays more cautious and stays on the outside. Very useful against Paulie Malignaggi.

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Miles please Khan hasnt improved that much WTFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF? You for real? :rolleyes:

No, I am quite serious. I think Khan has learned to hold back more and utilise his movement better, but it's still the same old Amir Khan. Stick him in with a threat and then let's see how much he has improved. Khan is in his element against the Salita's, Kotelnik's and Malignaggi's of the world, but let's see it against the punchers. How he responds to getting tagged by someone who can throw with mean intentions is where the improvments can be gauged, but currently I'm not so sure it is all that readily apparent.

Amir Khan has improved somewhat, but then again i think the Amir Khan before the Breidis Prescott fight. Still would of beaten Malignaggi, Salita, Kotelnik, because as Miles said we need to see him in, with a real dangerous opponent to see how much he really has improved.

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Originally Posted by Mark TKO

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erics44: whhhhyyyyyy dont you like him?

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cos i think he's a prick.

The way he thought he was a big deal from day one and the shite he comes out with. Will never forget his 'let's compare bank accounts and see who the bigger superstar is' Tweet when talking about Maidana.

He joins my list of domestic stars I couldn't stand eg Steve Davis (not now though !) , Stephen Hendry, Audley Harrison, early Eubank, Andy Murray etc....

was on the fence with Hamed


Unlike Steve Davis and Eubank though Khan won't come off that list i don't think.

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he's not a prick, hes a young kid who has been thrust into the lime light and he is handling it pretty well

much better than I would have at 17, and unless you are something out of the ordinary it is highly likely he is handling it better than you would

and being a boxing fan I would have thought you would have realised that banter before fights doesnt need to be taken too seriously

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Originally Posted by ono

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Originally Posted by erics44

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Originally Posted by ono

I never understand this argument. Surely a fighter who has slightly less power, but who has the ability to land much more frequently has the best chance of knocking him out? I say this, because even somebody as light punching as Limond, almost stopped him.

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limond put him down but i think almost stopping him is a bit of a exaggeration

Kahn is a completely different fighter now

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Eh, Khan was down for longer than 10 seconds if i remember correctly. He was all over the shop. I'd love to see your definition of 'out on his feet' if you think Khan wasn't close to being stopped.

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he got up and knocked the dude out very shortly after with a lot of composure and skill considering, that doesnt sound like someone who was hurt to me

limond did well in that fight but nearly knock him out isnt something that happened

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Originally Posted by erics44

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Originally Posted by ono

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Originally Posted by erics44

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Originally Posted by ono

I never understand this argument. Surely a fighter who has slightly less power, but who has the ability to land much more frequently has the best chance of knocking him out? I say this, because even somebody as light punching as Limond, almost stopped him.

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limond put him down but i think almost stopping him is a bit of a exaggeration

Kahn is a completely different fighter now

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Eh, Khan was down for longer than 10 seconds if i remember correctly. He was all over the shop. I'd love to see your definition of 'out on his feet' if you think Khan wasn't close to being stopped.

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he got up and knocked the dude out very shortly after with a lot of composure and skill considering, that doesnt sound like someone who was hurt to me

limond did well in that fight but nearly knock him out isnt something that happened

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Agree to disagree. He did have 1 minute to recover inbetween the rounds and he did get the benefit of a long count. I won't be alone in thinking he was badly hurt. Either way, he's definitely improved a lot since then, and you're correct in saying he did very well in the 8th round.

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Originally Posted by erics44

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Originally Posted by Mark TKO

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erics44: whhhhyyyyyy dont you like him?

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cos i think he's a prick.

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he's not a prick, hes a young kid who has been thrust into the lime light and he is handling it pretty well

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Did you not see the words 'I think' in my post. My opinion on him eg mine not yours. In my eyes he is a prick.

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Originally Posted by Mark TKO

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Originally Posted by erics44

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Originally Posted by Mark TKO

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erics44: whhhhyyyyyy dont you like him?

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cos i think he's a prick.

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he's not a prick, hes a young kid who has been thrust into the lime light and he is handling it pretty well

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Did you not see the words 'I think' in my post. My opinion on him eg mine not yours. In my eyes he is a prick.

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look dude, I think there is a lot of uneccessary hate for boxers on this site, epsecially as its british guys hating british guys for no or little reason. I am making it my soul purpose whilst posting to turn opinion and make the british public more appreciative of those sportsmen who have had success and represent our country with pride

he int a prick dude, thats very harsh

enjoy him, britain wont have many world champions like khan

can't help it if i don't like someone.

read my other post with list of brits I have hated in other sports - its just one of them things. Sometimes the majority of the british public can't stand one of our own. And the guys I list all come into that - as does Khan.

And I doubt thers much he can do to turn it round.

Though Rocky Balboa managed it in Moscow I guess so maybe anything's possible

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Originally Posted by Mark TKO

can't help it if i don't like someone.

read my other post with list of brits I have hated in other sports - its just one of them things. Sometimes the majority of the british public can't stand one of our own. And the guys I list all come into that - as does Khan.

And I doubt thers much he can do to turn it round.

Though Rocky Balboa managed it in Moscow I guess so maybe anything's possible

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like i say, i am making it my mission to change opinions of british people towards british boxers on this site

why dont you try liking him for a while? Just for today tell yourself you like the little dude

go on, let me know how it goes

i don't think the world quite works as easy as that .......

come on Maidana !

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Originally Posted by Mark TKO

i don't think the world quite works as easy as that .......

come on Maidana !

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your world can work like that if you want it to

your not even trying now common

say to yourself "I like amir khan"

say it

He can be a legend. All he has to do is clean up his division, and concur 2 more divs north of that. He's got height, long limbs, power, speed, and skills. He's got great corner and sparmates. There should be a way to toughen his chin. Maybe wack his chin repeatedly with a rubber batton or somethin' ;D. Have it immunized. Sort of like Pac's stick training for his body.

I actually think Khan is going to be Great. He has improved a shit load under Roach. I remember when quite a few people thought he would get a real test from Thaxton, now with all the respect I have for Thaxton there is still no way you could give him ashot with Khan at any point.

The main problem for Khan is he definitely has a weak chin but he knows that now and has improved around that fact. The very top fighters will expose his chin but I'm talking the level of Pac and Mayweather and I think Khan will totally school Maidana!

Khan can be a legend, he is taking a puncher now and soon he will try and unify. he is going in the right direction so Khan needs some credit.

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Originally Posted by rjj tszyu

I actually think Khan is going to be Great. He has improved a shit load under Roach. I remember when quite a few people thought he would get a real test from Thaxton, now with all the respect I have for Thaxton there is still no way you could give him ashot with Khan at any point.

The main problem for Khan is he definitely has a weak chin but he knows that now and has improved around that fact. The very top fighters will expose his chin but I'm talking the level of Pac and Mayweather and I think Khan will totally school Maidana!

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You're one of the people on this site who I considered has great boxing knowledge. I think he can be great also, in that he can have a Terry Norris type of career, and I'm not comparing their styles but their career, you know a guy that has great skills and was in the top 10 p4p list but the only weakness was the iffy chin.

I don't think Khan will be a legend, that is reserved for the Durans, Leonards, Haglers, Chavezs, Pacquiaos, and Mayweathers.

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Originally Posted by generalbulldog

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Originally Posted by rjj tszyu

I actually think Khan is going to be Great. He has improved a shit load under Roach. I remember when quite a few people thought he would get a real test from Thaxton, now with all the respect I have for Thaxton there is still no way you could give him ashot with Khan at any point.

The main problem for Khan is he definitely has a weak chin but he knows that now and has improved around that fact. The very top fighters will expose his chin but I'm talking the level of Pac and Mayweather and I think Khan will totally school Maidana!

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You're one of the people on this site who I considered has great boxing knowledge. I think he can be great also, in that he can have a Terry Norris type of career, and I'm not comparing their styles but their career, you know a guy that has great skills and was in the top 10 p4p list but the only weakness was the iffy chin.

I don't think Khan will be a legend, that is reserved for the Durans, Leonards, Haglers, Chavezs, Pacquiaos, and Mayweathers.

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I agree. He can be a star, but legend is pushing it. I'd never say never (even though i just have...twice) but it's unlikely. He'll get tagged at some point and he'll be under a lot of pressure at some point. He's got a great team around him and i think he's very naturally talented and fast, but it's fat too early to tell, and who even knows what the competition is going to be like over the coming years...

I do think we'll see him fighting in a very similar style to Pacquiao...albeit orthadox. High pressure/workrate/volume, very fast hands, very good foot speed, average defence. I do think he's more polished than Pacquiao was at 23, but that's not a strong enough indicator to suggest that he'll come close to matching him.