AA's future in the Super 6

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Originally Posted by erics44

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Originally Posted by Fenster

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Originally Posted by Rantcatrat

I have a couple of questions. What is the financial penalty from Showtime if AA quits the Super Six? What is the procedure if a fighter quits the tournament due to medical reasons in order to avoid any type of financial penalty from Showtime? Does Showtime have one of their doctors evaluate the boxer?

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They can't force him to fight. Taylor and Dirrell quit on medical grounds so it must be easy for a guy coming off two one-sided losses to get a doctors note.

In the harsh business of boxing he is currently worth shit. Selling Abraham vs anyone could only be done to a German market at the moment. I doubt they're that concerned he has pulled out ;)

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has he definately pulled out?

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No...there hasn't been any official statement that AA did or will quit the super six,but apparently the executive manager of Sauerland Chris Meyer wants some answers to what happend with AA during training and the fight...there is an appointment for next week for an conversation between the two...
But it looks like AA did prepare for this fight rather badly...that idiot...

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Originally Posted by Rantcatrat

I have a couple of questions. What is the financial penalty from Showtime if AA quits the Super Six? What is the procedure if a fighter quits the tournament due to medical reasons in order to avoid any type of financial penalty from Showtime? Does Showtime have one of their doctors evaluate the boxer?

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It's better for the tournament if he does pull out.

The semi finals are a ridiculous idea anyway imo, having Andre Ward fighting a guy who has lost his last two fights, and Froch against an old war horse, the wrong side of 40 who wasn't even one of the original replacements let alone original competitor.

It's Froch vs Ward for the final. Anything else is just farce.

Really disappointed not seeing him carry on, but there is no way he wins it.
Would love to see Johnson/Abraham.

It would be silly for Abraham to pull out. He is walking into a guaranteed world title fight with Ward. If he leaves where else is he going to get that opportunity having been owned twice in a row.

i hope AA stays in the tournament because there is more chance 2 more bog fight nights involving Carl Froch

if he drops out and Froch faces Ward in the final, thats only 1 for defo

I love big fight nights

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Originally Posted by Bilbo

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Originally Posted by Rantcatrat

I have a couple of questions. What is the financial penalty from Showtime if AA quits the Super Six? What is the procedure if a fighter quits the tournament due to medical reasons in order to avoid any type of financial penalty from Showtime? Does Showtime have one of their doctors evaluate the boxer?

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It's better for the tournament if he does pull out.

The semi finals are a ridiculous idea anyway imo, having Andre Ward fighting a guy who has lost his last two fights, and Froch against an old war horse, the wrong side of 40 who wasn't even one of the original replacements let alone original competitor.

It's Froch vs Ward for the final. Anything else is just farce.

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I actually agree here and then the winner face Bute. However, Johnson v. Froch could be a fun fight to watch too.

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Originally Posted by GAME

It would be silly for Abraham to pull out. He is walking into a guaranteed world title fight with Ward. If he leaves where else is he going to get that opportunity having been owned twice in a row.

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I think it would be a sensible idea. He must know there is no way he beats Ward, especially going into it at the lowest point of his career.

If he moves back to middleweight there are guys like Felix Sturm and Sebastian Slyvester who hold world titles. I'm sure Abraham can still beat those guys.

29
Nov
2010
Arthur Abraham Update


Former IBF middleweight champion Arthur Abraham told BILD that he’s just not a super middleweight. “The others are simply larger. I’m always the smallest,” he stated. King Arthur added that he will still be challenging Andre Ward for the WBA super middleweight title in the Super Six semi-final and will remain with trainer Uli Wegner.


Boxing - Arthur Abraham Update

Im a big AA fan and I agree that he is not a super middle weight and needs to go down to middle again, but damn if your in a tourney or anything than don't be a bitch and quit.

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Originally Posted by Hornfinger

HAHAHA

That would mean there are only 3 origonal super 6 fighters left now wouldn't it?

The whole thing has become a disaster.

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Anything that helps/makes top boxers face each other in hardley what I would call a disaster .

Am I the first person to ask for a source :confused:

I've seen nothing on the web apart from forum rumours that he's quitting, so I suspect he'll stay in. He has a puncher's chance against Ward, but he'll make more money from this fight then he would elsewhere right now.

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Originally Posted by erics44

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Originally Posted by Ant Live

If it is true, Johnson and Bika should fight for an mandatory spot to fight the winner after a propose big fight with the winner of the Super 6 against Bute.

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whooooaaaa, thats even more complex than the original set up

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I'm just saying, even after the Super 6 is over, there is still not a clear kingpin at supermiddle!!! Bute is a beast and been impressive before the tourney even started. Besides, who would you rather see
Bute vs Ward or Froch
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Johnson vs Ward or Froch

Damn, I just saw what I wrote!!! Johnson vs Bute on Showtime

This whole round robin thing drove me nuts from the start. They should have started with eight and after the first round they would have been left with four winners and after the second round 2 winners, then the final.

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Originally Posted by gramm

Im a big AA fan and I agree that he is not a super middle weight and needs to go down to middle again, but damn if your in a tourney or anything than don't be a bitch and quit.

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Agreed. I saw that AA said in a interview after the Froch fight that he wouldn't quit because he is a fair sports man. Plus the Sturm fight etc. will be available once he's done losing to Ward.

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Originally Posted by Ant Live

If it is true, Johnson and Bika should fight for an mandatory spot to fight the winner after a propose big fight with the winner of the Super 6 against Bute.

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whooooaaaa, thats even more complex than the original set up

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I'm just saying, even after the Super 6 is over, there is still not a clear kingpin at supermiddle!!! Bute is a beast and been impressive before the tourney even started. Besides, who would you rather see
Bute vs Ward or Froch
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Johnson vs Ward or Froch

Damn, I just saw what I wrote!!! Johnson vs Bute on Showtime

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i had this discussion with someone else before and I think the winner of the super 6 has to be considered the best in the division

and yes id like to see them in with bute at some point, but until bute beats them he cant be considered the best

Bute looks really good dont get me wrong but his record doesnt suggest he is the best in the division at the minute

a couple of wins over miranda and one over bika (although he did it in style) doesnt exactly say hes the best of the best

I just hope AA stops Ward... Someone.. ANYONE. I just can't stand watching his style of fighting. Maybe through some miracle we'll see Froch face Bute while having his banshee of a gf banned from the event.

He is not quitting he is sticking it out as promised...He stated "I am a sportsman, and I made an obligation to fight in this tournament so I will finish it out take a rest then more then likely move to MW once again....

Gotta give the man credit for fighting bouts he may lose knowingly but will continue because he made an obligation.....I would like to see him bk at MW...I thought from the beginning with the exception of his power the SMW were too big for him....Some of those guys are 6"1 or taller with 5-6 in reaqch advantages over him...Not to mention the weight difference on fight day

I think he needs to change something, but its not weight class. He was having trouble making middleweight, if I remember thats why he moved up. Dirrell exposed him. When you outwork him and dont exchange with him, move in and out, he pretty much just covers up first, then chases off balance. I think he does need a new trrainer, because his Winky Wright impersonation isnt working any more.

So the thread is titled 'AA quits the Super 6", but every piece of verified information in this thread indicates otherwise? I'm changing the title.

I wish you would since people only read a few posts in a thread and conclude he's quitting when he has stated he will continue with the super six and the Ward fight.

AA continues in the Super 6 reflects what Abraham has said.


I picked AA to win against Froch but my score card gave every single round to Froch with no pity rounds to AA because he did more in one round or another then he did the whole fight.

IF Abraham quits, Bute just signed with Showtime, put him against Ward - And the winner against Froch and Johnson. Make sense no ? Personnaly i dont have any interset in a fight beetween Abraham and Ward.

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Originally Posted by The Rocket

IF Abraham quits, Bute just signed with Showtime, put him against Ward - And the winner against Froch and Johnson. Make sense no ? Personnaly i dont have any interset in a fight beetween Abraham and Ward.

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The AA fight for ward is a big one

Ward has beaten one of the super six original fighters and looked good but then has looked less than great in his next 2 fights

If he doesnt do a number on AA similar to froch where does that leave him, and if he loses?