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fact is larry has never given floyd his due and has been outwardly hostile to him in post fight interviews and in his commentary during fights.
larry seems to pride himself on being a no bullshit kind of commentator, who delights in voicing his opinions rather than remaining an unbiased journalist. he gives people alot of shit when he feels he's justified doing so, regardless of whether he's crossing the line of a professional journalist.
so whats wrong with floyd saying that he's gonna leave the interview and let merchant talk to ortiz? floyd only blows up after merchant makes some stupid face at him, deliberately designed to provoke floyd. floyd takes the bait, and why not... merchant is an over the hill drunk who makes little sense anymore and is only interested in pushing his personal agenda. larry's the one who threatened floyd not the other way around. floyd was just reacting to the years of insults that merchant has thrown his way in post fight interviews.
the whole hbo crew that night were incompetent in their commentary. lampley and merchant should go for sure as they have nothing relevant to say. stewart was okay, just okay.
out with the old hbo. you look like fools with those old drunk wind bags hosting your fights. good on floyd for standing up to merchant.
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I havn't read through the thread, I'll do that in a bit.
I was upset that Mayweather tried to shout down an 80 year old man. I was afraid Merchant would go home and suffer a heart attack.
What Mayweather did to Ortiz didn't bother me at all. Ortiz played dirty with a man who brought 50 Cent along to carry his belts and wonders why he got struck down in a less than honorable fashion? He got what he deserved.
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I couldn't give a fuck what world we live in.
Just becos he is old he isn't aloud to b put in his place!
I hope larry merchant dies for crucifying mayweather.
Mayweather is the goat. Guys like Ali accomplished nothing in an easier time period.
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PaulG
You know what Bilbo - I'm getting on your case a bit and I'm sorry. I can see where you are coming from and I do agree that Mayweather's behaviour was pretty unedifying.
However, it does seem that he is held to a higher standard by a lot of people on here where everything he does is wrong and it irritates me to see someone effectively post that it is right for Arreola to be banned for 6 months but that Mayweather should go to prison. The only reason they (you) say that is because its Mayweather and you hate him.
I'll leave it there.
Actually I'm a Floyd fan, I just think he is a dick at times.
He should be in court. I still stand by that. It's not an over reaction. What if Merchant had a heart attack?
A quick google trawl, it happens all the time.
Pensioner dies from heart attack after 'hedge argument' - Home News, UK - The Independent
Road rage leads to fatal heart attack / After argument and loss of his car keys, Woodside man walks home -- and dies - SFGate
Taxi driver dies of heart attack after bust-up with teenagers | Manchester Evening News - menmedia.co.uk
BBC News - Northampton car park row death man died of heart attack
Detectives have charged two people after a man died following an argument as he walked his dog. | This is Leicestershire
There are just a few seperate stories, all of them involved much younger than Larry Merchant.
I truly found it, and still do, absolutely sickening.
Floyd is also currently on eight seperate charges of domestic violence. If that was a normal guy in public on that many charges acting that way they absolutely would be in court.
One of the veteran posters here got sent down for a few months after arguing in the street with his girlfriend.
As I said above Arreola got a six month boxing ban for swearing in a friendly interview.
He should, and believe will, get a large fine, and a ban for this. It's not idiotic or over the top, it's absolutely right. He's a role model to millions, he should be made an example of.
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[QUOTE=Bilbo;1010803][QUOTE=PaulG;1010796]
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They are and so me and Larry are part of the zeitgeist in modern boxing. The boos were from the arena and the boards and the flipflopping between huggers and none huggers. To a degree we respresent the Larry is cool brigade. It's only Flomos that really see no issue with what Floyd did.
I genuinely have no idea what your post means. Could you repeat it again in English please?
Basically that me and Larry are right and I think this captures the majority of views. Larry was right in calling out FLoyd, otherwise a controversial moment would have been given no coverage.
Thanks Miles - I agree that Floyd was out of order in his response and even if angry should have refrained from profanity. Merchant should have kept his mouth shut though as he made himself look a right idiot by threatening to kick floyd's ass 50 years ago. He only did that because he knew that his age protected him from any physical consequences of his actions.
The post here that I really disagree with is Bilbo's idiotic claim that Floyd should be banned from boxing and prosecuted in court for threatening behaviour. Ironically, by acting so disproportionately because of his anger he is acting exactly like Floyd did, which makes me laugh as I can guess how much he'll love being told that his behaviour is identical to that of a man he holds in such high esteem.
Chris Arreola got banned from boxing for six months for this. You tell who me acted worse?
Floyd is a role model for millions of youngsters, especially black youth's. He should be made an example of to show that kind of behaviour is not acceptable for anybody.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTPUd...84D0D4F70E1E34
Unfortunately Arreola couldnt sell out a school gymnasium and Mayweather is the alltime PPV king! I dont agree with Floyd at all on this but if there is no recourse for his actions it will just be another case of double standard.
What I find to be the funniest is how people call Floyd a 2 bit suckerpuncher because he retaliated and fairly hit Ortiz when fight resumed but you give Ortiz victim status. Floyd tells Larry the truth, You dont give me a fair shake you never do! which he is correct than takes a cheap shot by cussing at him, Larry retorts by saying if I was 50 years younger I would kick your a$$!
Lets compare one more time, Ortiz takes a cheap headbutt at Floyd, Floyd lowblows Larry Verbally. Larry reacts by threatening Floyd if he was 50 years younger.
So Floyd is a jerk for retaliating to Ortiz and Larry is cool for threatening Floyd and escalating the argument?
Again I dont condone berating Larry but I wont laud Larry for threatening Floyd. After all isin't Larry supposed to be a classy old mature chap who has a crown of wisdom???
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PaulG
You know what Bilbo - I'm getting on your case a bit and I'm sorry. I can see where you are coming from and I do agree that Mayweather's behaviour was pretty unedifying.
However, it does seem that he is held to a higher standard by a lot of people on here where everything he does is wrong and it irritates me to see someone effectively post that it is right for Arreola to be banned for 6 months but that Mayweather should go to prison. The only reason they (you) say that is because its Mayweather and you hate him.
I'll leave it there.
Actually I'm a Floyd fan, I just think he is a dick at times.
He should be in court. I still stand by that. It's not an over reaction. What if Merchant had a heart attack?
A quick google trawl, it happens all the time.
Pensioner dies from heart attack after 'hedge argument' - Home News, UK - The Independent
Road rage leads to fatal heart attack / After argument and loss of his car keys, Woodside man walks home -- and dies - SFGate
Taxi driver dies of heart attack after bust-up with teenagers | Manchester Evening News - menmedia.co.uk
BBC News - Northampton car park row death man died of heart attack
Detectives have charged two people after a man died following an argument as he walked his dog. | This is Leicestershire
There are just a few seperate stories, all of them involved much younger than Larry Merchant.
I truly found it, and still do, absolutely sickening.
Floyd is also currently on eight seperate charges of domestic violence. If that was a normal guy in public on that many charges acting that way they absolutely would be in court.
One of the veteran posters here got sent down for a few months after arguing in the street with his girlfriend.
As I said above Arreola got a six month boxing ban for swearing in a friendly interview.
He should, and believe will, get a large fine, and a ban for this. It's not idiotic or over the top, it's absolutely right. He's a role model to millions, he should be made an example of.
I'm a nice guy myself but still find the prospect of having to go to court for telling someone off/yelling at them a bit scary.
I imagine lawyers would be even richer if things got to that point.
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PaulG
You know what Bilbo - I'm getting on your case a bit and I'm sorry. I can see where you are coming from and I do agree that Mayweather's behaviour was pretty unedifying.
However, it does seem that he is held to a higher standard by a lot of people on here where everything he does is wrong and it irritates me to see someone effectively post that it is right for Arreola to be banned for 6 months but that Mayweather should go to prison. The only reason they (you) say that is because its Mayweather and you hate him.
I'll leave it there.
Actually I'm a Floyd fan, I just think he is a dick at times.
He should be in court. I still stand by that. It's not an over reaction. What if Merchant had a heart attack?
A quick google trawl, it happens all the time.
Pensioner dies from heart attack after 'hedge argument' - Home News, UK - The Independent
Road rage leads to fatal heart attack / After argument and loss of his car keys, Woodside man walks home -- and dies - SFGate
Taxi driver dies of heart attack after bust-up with teenagers | Manchester Evening News - menmedia.co.uk
BBC News - Northampton car park row death man died of heart attack
Detectives have charged two people after a man died following an argument as he walked his dog. | This is Leicestershire
There are just a few seperate stories, all of them involved much younger than Larry Merchant.
I truly found it, and still do, absolutely sickening.
Floyd is also currently on eight seperate charges of domestic violence. If that was a normal guy in public on that many charges acting that way they absolutely would be in court.
One of the veteran posters here got sent down for a few months after arguing in the street with his girlfriend.
As I said above Arreola got a six month boxing ban for swearing in a friendly interview.
He should, and believe will, get a large fine, and a ban for this. It's not idiotic or over the top, it's absolutely right. He's a role model to millions, he should be made an example of.
Believe me if Larry had a heart attack it would have been the lake amounts of Scotch the old buzzard has consumed and not because he argued with PBF.
If larry has heart issues he shouldnt be around exciting things like BOXING!!!
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I can't believe in the amount of retards in this forum defending a thug like Mayweather. Merchant actually gave Mayweather props for fighting more aggressive but then asked what anyone would, why he gotta throw a pussy shot. Mayweather needs to stop acting like a bitch getting all emotional and shit. He needs to man up and stop being a punk bitch reinforcing/promoting the black stereo type.
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I can't believe in the amount of retards in this forum defending a thug like Mayweather. Merchant actually gave Mayweather props for fighting more aggressive but then asked what anyone would, why he gotta throw a pussy shot. Mayweather needs to stop acting like a bitch getting all emotional and shit. He needs to man up and stop being a punk bitch reinforcing/promoting the black stereo type.
Black, white, or any other colour, he acted a tool!
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Mayweather needs to stop acting like a bitch getting all emotional and shit. He needs to man up and stop being a punk bitch reinforcing/promoting the black stereo type.
Says a man (of whatever colour) acting up exactly to the black stereotype.
Some of you guys really don't get the irony of your comments do you?
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Mayweather needs to stop acting like a bitch getting all emotional and shit. He needs to man up and stop being a punk bitch reinforcing/promoting the black stereo type.
Says a man (of whatever colour) acting up exactly to the black stereotype.
Some of you guys really don't get the irony of your comments do you?
There is such a thing as a time and a place you know.
Saying things on an anonymous forum is wholly different from getting in the face of an elderly television presenter and telling him he ain't shit.
Just try and picture this happening out of a boxing context.
Let's imagine Colin Farrell saying it to Kirk Douglas? Or Audley Harrison saying it to Bruce Forysthe on the next Strictly Come Dancing?
It would be career suicide and the media would have a field day with it.
Mayweather routinely behaves in outrageous ways and if anything is encouraged to do so to hype his persona.
I say it's wrong. Would do him a lot of good if he has to serve some time next time when his court cases are due in.
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So you think that Floyd Mayweather should be hauled up in court becasue he shouted at an 80 year old man who went on to threaten him because it might have caused the old man to have a heart attack simply because he has existing charges against him (which have not yet come to trial) and is a role model.
All this, despite the fact that
a) No crime has been committed (except perhaps by Merchant)
b) On law both sides of the Atlantic men are innocent until proven guilty
c) NOTHING ACTUALLY HAPPENED TO THE OLD MAN!!!
All I can say is: thank god you are too stupid to be a member of the judiciary in the Western world. If that is really what you think you should move to a bananna republic where there is no need for a judicial system and can just shoot people you don't like.
You are so much worse than Mayweather - you come accross like a Daily Mail reading "outraged from Tunbridge Wells" and I'm going to stay on your case now because you deserve it. You have no grace, no detachment; no recognition that you could be wrong and no excuse that it happened in the heat of the moment - unlike Mayweather. Give me him over you and your tabloid judgement any day.
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He didn't have to be respectful. You are confusing being overly aggressive with veing disrespectful.
Could he not have stood up for himself without trying to thug a senior citizen? Obviously he realised he lacked the brains to answer what was being asked and come out of it on top.
That sums it up perfectly, GB.
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dcR-Reckless
I can't believe in the amount of retards in this forum defending a thug like Mayweather. Merchant actually gave Mayweather props for fighting more aggressive but then asked what anyone would, why he gotta throw a pussy shot. Mayweather needs to stop acting like a bitch getting all emotional and shit. He needs to man up and stop being a punk bitch reinforcing/promoting the black stereo type.
The black stereo type huh?? What exactly is the stereo type exactly? As a black man myself I am rather curious and perhaps you could enlighten me.
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Didn’t Tyson also want Larry fired?
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dcR-Reckless
I can't believe in the amount of retards in this forum defending a thug like Mayweather. Merchant actually gave Mayweather props for fighting more aggressive but then asked what anyone would, why he gotta throw a pussy shot. Mayweather needs to stop acting like a bitch getting all emotional and shit. He needs to man up and stop being a punk bitch reinforcing/promoting the black stereo type.
The black stereo type huh?? What exactly is the stereo type exactly? As a black man myself I am rather curious and perhaps you could enlighten me.
Baggy trousers, slang, rap music, flat cap, bling, loud, gang oriented, stupid, irresponsible. Thats what i assume he means by stereotypical black male.
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ninjaspy3
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Originally Posted by
dcR-Reckless
I can't believe in the amount of retards in this forum defending a thug like Mayweather. Merchant actually gave Mayweather props for fighting more aggressive but then asked what anyone would, why he gotta throw a pussy shot. Mayweather needs to stop acting like a bitch getting all emotional and shit. He needs to man up and stop being a punk bitch reinforcing/promoting the black stereo type.
The black stereo type huh?? What exactly is the stereo type exactly? As a black man myself I am rather curious and perhaps you could enlighten me.
Stereotypically they love fried chicken and kool-aid too.
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mattboxingfan
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ninjaspy3
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dcR-Reckless
I can't believe in the amount of retards in this forum defending a thug like Mayweather. Merchant actually gave Mayweather props for fighting more aggressive but then asked what anyone would, why he gotta throw a pussy shot. Mayweather needs to stop acting like a bitch getting all emotional and shit. He needs to man up and stop being a punk bitch reinforcing/promoting the black stereo type.
The black stereo type huh?? What exactly is the stereo type exactly? As a black man myself I am rather curious and perhaps you could enlighten me.
Stereotypically they love fried chicken and kool-aid too.
I figured that. But really I just wanted to point out the irony of why a stereo type even exists. The stereo type exists because of the negative opinions others have. Whether there is any truth to it or not, the stereotype need not even really be a negative trait in and of itself, rather it as preceived as such by certain individuals who do do not agree with people who are different then themselves in the first place. If someone holds a stereo type, it really says something about that person actually.
Specifically it says "Those people are different from me for ____ and ____ reasons. I don't like things are different, therefore it must be wrong.
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PaulG
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Bilbo
So you think that Floyd Mayweather should be hauled up in court becasue he shouted at an 80 year old man who went on to threaten him because it might have caused the old man to have a heart attack simply because he has existing charges against him (which have not yet come to trial) and is a role model.
All this, despite the fact that
a) No crime has been committed (except perhaps by Merchant)
b) On law both sides of the Atlantic men are innocent until proven guilty
c) NOTHING ACTUALLY HAPPENED TO THE OLD MAN!!!
All I can say is: thank god you are too stupid to be a member of the judiciary in the Western world. If that is really what you think you should move to a bananna republic where there is no need for a judicial system and can just shoot people you don't like.
You are so much worse than Mayweather - you come accross like a Daily Mail reading "outraged from Tunbridge Wells" and I'm going to stay on your case now because you deserve it.
You have no grace, no detachment;
no recognition that you could be wrong and no excuse that it happened in the heat of the moment - unlike Mayweather. Give me him over you and your tabloid judgement any day.
Huh :confused:
I hate the tabloids actually. It's because of the media that Floyd gets a platform for this kind of shit.
He behaved disgracefully and he should be punished for it. I fully expect HBO and the whatever boxing board that sanctioned that fight to levy a heavy (by our standards, obviously not his) fine on him for his outburst.
Floyd has a long history of being a dick, just watch the recent 24/7 or any of the hundreds of videos of him on youtube threatening people or flashing his cash in his private life.
As a role model who earns hundreds of millions of pounds from the paying public he should be held accountable for his actions.
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Bilbo
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Originally Posted by
PaulG
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Originally Posted by
Bilbo
So you think that Floyd Mayweather should be hauled up in court becasue he shouted at an 80 year old man who went on to threaten him because it might have caused the old man to have a heart attack simply because he has existing charges against him (which have not yet come to trial) and is a role model.
All this, despite the fact that
a) No crime has been committed (except perhaps by Merchant)
b) On law both sides of the Atlantic men are innocent until proven guilty
c) NOTHING ACTUALLY HAPPENED TO THE OLD MAN!!!
All I can say is: thank god you are too stupid to be a member of the judiciary in the Western world. If that is really what you think you should move to a bananna republic where there is no need for a judicial system and can just shoot people you don't like.
You are so much worse than Mayweather - you come accross like a Daily Mail reading "outraged from Tunbridge Wells" and I'm going to stay on your case now because you deserve it.
You have no grace, no detachment;
no recognition that you could be wrong and no excuse that it happened in the heat of the moment - unlike Mayweather. Give me him over you and your tabloid judgement any day.
Huh :confused:
I hate the tabloids actually. It's because of the media that Floyd gets a platform for this kind of shit.
He behaved disgracefully and he should be punished for it. I fully expect HBO and the whatever boxing board that sanctioned that fight to levy a heavy (by our standards, obviously not his) fine on him for his outburst.
Floyd has a long history of being a dick, just watch the recent 24/7 or any of the hundreds of videos of him on youtube threatening people or flashing his cash in his private life.
As a role model who earns hundreds of millions of pounds from the paying public he should be held accountable for his actions.
I get your point Bilbo but there is simply no such requirement. And that goes for all rich and famous people. Better not to try to make them into role models in the first place. You know many of the rich and famous mess up. For better or for worse, they should not be role models. They are simply entertainers... and human beings.
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ninjaspy3
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mattboxingfan
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ninjaspy3
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dcR-Reckless
I can't believe in the amount of retards in this forum defending a thug like Mayweather. Merchant actually gave Mayweather props for fighting more aggressive but then asked what anyone would, why he gotta throw a pussy shot. Mayweather needs to stop acting like a bitch getting all emotional and shit. He needs to man up and stop being a punk bitch reinforcing/promoting the black stereo type.
The black stereo type huh?? What exactly is the stereo type exactly? As a black man myself I am rather curious and perhaps you could enlighten me.
Stereotypically they love fried chicken and kool-aid too.
I figured that. But really I just wanted to point out the irony of why a stereo type even exists. The stereo type exists because of the negative opinions others have. Whether there is any truth to it or not, the stereotype need not even really be a negative trait in and of itself, rather it as preceived as such by certain individuals who do do not agree with people who are different then themselves in the first place. If someone holds a stereo type, it really says something about that person actually.
Specifically it says "Those people are different from me for ____ and ____ reasons. I don't like things are different, therefore it must be wrong.
Stereotypes exist because people don't have a full understanding. Everyone will stereotype at some point.
In what Floyd did i can see why people make the link with stereotypes I mean there he was shouting curses in the face of an old man with his manager and trainers backing him up like some sort of gang on the streets.
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ninjaspy3
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Originally Posted by
Bilbo
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Originally Posted by
PaulG
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Originally Posted by
Bilbo
So you think that Floyd Mayweather should be hauled up in court becasue he shouted at an 80 year old man who went on to threaten him because it might have caused the old man to have a heart attack simply because he has existing charges against him (which have not yet come to trial) and is a role model.
All this, despite the fact that
a) No crime has been committed (except perhaps by Merchant)
b) On law both sides of the Atlantic men are innocent until proven guilty
c) NOTHING ACTUALLY HAPPENED TO THE OLD MAN!!!
All I can say is: thank god you are too stupid to be a member of the judiciary in the Western world. If that is really what you think you should move to a bananna republic where there is no need for a judicial system and can just shoot people you don't like.
You are so much worse than Mayweather - you come accross like a Daily Mail reading "outraged from Tunbridge Wells" and I'm going to stay on your case now because you deserve it.
You have no grace, no detachment;
no recognition that you could be wrong and no excuse that it happened in the heat of the moment - unlike Mayweather. Give me him over you and your tabloid judgement any day.
Huh :confused:
I hate the tabloids actually. It's because of the media that Floyd gets a platform for this kind of shit.
He behaved disgracefully and he should be punished for it. I fully expect HBO and the whatever boxing board that sanctioned that fight to levy a heavy (by our standards, obviously not his) fine on him for his outburst.
Floyd has a long history of being a dick, just watch the recent 24/7 or any of the hundreds of videos of him on youtube threatening people or flashing his cash in his private life.
As a role model who earns hundreds of millions of pounds from the paying public he should be held accountable for his actions.
I get your point Bilbo but there is simply no such requirement. And that goes for all rich and famous people. Better not to try to make them into role models in the first place. You know many of the rich and famous mess up. For better or for worse,
they should not be role models. They are simply entertainers... and human beings.
How are kids supposed to know that?
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mattboxingfan
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Originally Posted by
ninjaspy3
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Originally Posted by
mattboxingfan
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Originally Posted by
ninjaspy3
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dcR-Reckless
I can't believe in the amount of retards in this forum defending a thug like Mayweather. Merchant actually gave Mayweather props for fighting more aggressive but then asked what anyone would, why he gotta throw a pussy shot. Mayweather needs to stop acting like a bitch getting all emotional and shit. He needs to man up and stop being a punk bitch reinforcing/promoting the black stereo type.
The black stereo type huh?? What exactly is the stereo type exactly? As a black man myself I am rather curious and perhaps you could enlighten me.
Stereotypically they love fried chicken and kool-aid too.
I figured that. But really I just wanted to point out the irony of why a stereo type even exists. The stereo type exists because of the negative opinions others have. Whether there is any truth to it or not, the stereotype need not even really be a negative trait in and of itself, rather it as preceived as such by certain individuals who do do not agree with people who are different then themselves in the first place. If someone holds a stereo type, it really says something about that person actually.
Specifically it says "Those people are different from me for ____ and ____ reasons. I don't like things are different, therefore it must be wrong.
Stereotypes exist because people don't have a full understanding. Everyone will stereotype at some point.
In what Floyd did i can see why people make the link with stereotypes I mean there he was shouting curses in the face of an old man with his manager and trainers backing him up like some sort of gang on the streets.
Yeah, but seriously... and I mean very seriously. It's not like only black people do that, so the whole stereotype argument really doesn't hold water. It is just that others have that false view of how blacks act. Just because there are a few bad apples does not mean that logic goes completely MIA. The people who have stereo types are just as guilty as those who so-called re-enforce them.
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ninjaspy3
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Originally Posted by
mattboxingfan
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Originally Posted by
ninjaspy3
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Originally Posted by
mattboxingfan
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Originally Posted by
ninjaspy3
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Originally Posted by
dcR-Reckless
I can't believe in the amount of retards in this forum defending a thug like Mayweather. Merchant actually gave Mayweather props for fighting more aggressive but then asked what anyone would, why he gotta throw a pussy shot. Mayweather needs to stop acting like a bitch getting all emotional and shit. He needs to man up and stop being a punk bitch reinforcing/promoting the black stereo type.
The black stereo type huh?? What exactly is the stereo type exactly? As a black man myself I am rather curious and perhaps you could enlighten me.
Stereotypically they love fried chicken and kool-aid too.
I figured that. But really I just wanted to point out the irony of why a stereo type even exists. The stereo type exists because of the negative opinions others have. Whether there is any truth to it or not, the stereotype need not even really be a negative trait in and of itself, rather it as preceived as such by certain individuals who do do not agree with people who are different then themselves in the first place. If someone holds a stereo type, it really says something about that person actually.
Specifically it says "Those people are different from me for ____ and ____ reasons. I don't like things are different, therefore it must be wrong.
Stereotypes exist because people don't have a full understanding. Everyone will stereotype at some point.
In what Floyd did i can see why people make the link with stereotypes I mean there he was shouting curses in the face of an old man with his manager and trainers backing him up like some sort of gang on the streets.
Yeah, but seriously... and I mean very seriously. It's not like only black people do that, so the whole stereotype argument really doesn't hold water. It is just that others have that false view of how blacks act. Just because there are a few bad apples does not mean that logic goes completely MIA. The people who have stereo types are just as guilty as those who so-called re-enforce them.
Stereotypes are usually no good to anyone but there not going anywhere. It's just an easy way to understand things you couldn't otherwise.
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mattboxingfan
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ninjaspy3
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mattboxingfan
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ninjaspy3
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mattboxingfan
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ninjaspy3
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dcR-Reckless
I can't believe in the amount of retards in this forum defending a thug like Mayweather. Merchant actually gave Mayweather props for fighting more aggressive but then asked what anyone would, why he gotta throw a pussy shot. Mayweather needs to stop acting like a bitch getting all emotional and shit. He needs to man up and stop being a punk bitch reinforcing/promoting the black stereo type.
The black stereo type huh?? What exactly is the stereo type exactly? As a black man myself I am rather curious and perhaps you could enlighten me.
Stereotypically they love fried chicken and kool-aid too.
I figured that. But really I just wanted to point out the irony of why a stereo type even exists. The stereo type exists because of the negative opinions others have. Whether there is any truth to it or not, the stereotype need not even really be a negative trait in and of itself, rather it as preceived as such by certain individuals who do do not agree with people who are different then themselves in the first place. If someone holds a stereo type, it really says something about that person actually.
Specifically it says "Those people are different from me for ____ and ____ reasons. I don't like things are different, therefore it must be wrong.
Stereotypes exist because people don't have a full understanding. Everyone will stereotype at some point.
In what Floyd did i can see why people make the link with stereotypes I mean there he was shouting curses in the face of an old man with his manager and trainers backing him up like some sort of gang on the streets.
Yeah, but seriously... and I mean very seriously. It's not like only black people do that, so the whole stereotype argument really doesn't hold water. It is just that others have that false view of how blacks act. Just because there are a few bad apples does not mean that logic goes completely MIA. The people who have stereo types are just as guilty as those who so-called re-enforce them.
Stereotypes are usually no good to anyone but there not going anywhere. It's just an easy way to understand things you couldn't otherwise.
True, but Floyd's behavior is still not specific to black people in particular. Being an asshole definitely is not. That is universal. So if a stereo type is bs, I feel compelled to call someone on it, less more people start to accept such nonsense.
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Re: The Mayweather Merchant Spat
I have mixed feelings, I like Larry well enough but he can be annoying as hell. Mayweather went a little overboard in the post fight interview, but I can kinda see where he's coming from, end of story.
As for the 'ole fart Merchant being disrespected and/or "abused" by Floyd, boxing is a young man's game, perhaps he shouldn't be sticking his nose where it doesn't belong. BTW, i'm a longtime Mayweather hater, just saying, this kinda shit goes with the territory, if you can't stand the heat, get the fuck outta the kitchen.
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Re: The Mayweather Merchant Spat
I think the whole thing is staged. Since jump, floyd could have went the Sugar Ray Leonard route, nice smile, cereal boxes, and been the nice guy, but his camp figured that being an asshole/clown/villain/ would net him more money. It also in a way keeps him on his toes because most people just tune in because it might be the night that he gets knocked the fuck out, so in knowing that it kinda retards the natural complancency with being on top for so long. The thing with Merchant seems to be a spin off the Ali/Cosell thing. And since floyd did the WWE thing a few years back he seemed to have taken even more of that method and use it to promote his fights. Even Schaffer standing in the ring the other night looked like Vince McMahon. They're thinking "MAN WE'RE GOING ALL RETIRE OFF OF THIS PAC-FLOYD MEGA FIGHT in 2012"... If they charged 60-70 bucks for the Ortiz fight, then FLoyd Pac will be 99.99 and they both will make over 100million... Everything is staged and too bad the fight will actually be the least entertaining of it all, becaue floyd will still win a lopsided UD over PAC....
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Re: The Mayweather Merchant Spat
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I think the whole thing is staged. Since jump, floyd could have went the Sugar Ray Leonard route, nice smile, cereal boxes, and been the nice guy, but his camp figured that being an asshole/clown/villain/ would net him more money. It also in a way keeps him on his toes because most people just tune in because it might be the night that he gets knocked the fuck out, so in knowing that it kinda retards the natural complancency with being on top for so long. The thing with Merchant seems to be a spin off the Ali/Cosell thing. And since floyd did the WWE thing a few years back he seemed to have taken even more of that method and use it to promote his fights. Even Schaffer standing in the ring the other night looked like Vince McMahon. They're thinking "MAN WE'RE GOING ALL RETIRE OFF OF THIS PAC-FLOYD MEGA FIGHT in 2012"... If they charged 60-70 bucks for the Ortiz fight, then FLoyd Pac will be 99.99 and they both will make over 100million... Everything is staged and too bad the fight will actually be the least entertaining of it all, becaue floyd will still win a lopsided UD over PAC....
Come on tell us how you really feel ! ;D
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The issue of Merhcant being irritating shouldn't even come into it though. That's like arguing Chris Brown had some justification for hitting Rihanna because she was annoying as hell.
There are lines that just should not be crossed, and what Floyd said, on American's biggest family network was disgusting imo. I just can't imagine it happening over here in the UK at all.
If a British fighter had started mouthing off like that to Henry Cooper, or maybe a Formula One driver to Murray Walker he would be completely and utterly ostracized.
I'm just amazed that people seem to be accepting of it.
The bolded text is your answer...We Americans have gotten so arrogant and pompous that we dont even respect the old and not only that its absurd to even question it because its looked at like a normal thing.
Im including myself in this because I'm American but not because I'm proud of the behavior.
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I think the whole thing is staged. Since jump, floyd could have went the Sugar Ray Leonard route, nice smile, cereal boxes, and been the nice guy, but his camp figured that being an asshole/clown/villain/ would net him more money. It also in a way keeps him on his toes because most people just tune in because it might be the night that he gets knocked the fuck out, so in knowing that it kinda retards the natural complancency with being on top for so long. The thing with Merchant seems to be a spin off the Ali/Cosell thing. And since floyd did the WWE thing a few years back he seemed to have taken even more of that method and use it to promote his fights. Even Schaffer standing in the ring the other night looked like Vince McMahon. They're thinking "MAN WE'RE GOING ALL RETIRE OFF OF THIS PAC-FLOYD MEGA FIGHT in 2012"... If they charged 60-70 bucks for the Ortiz fight, then FLoyd Pac will be 99.99 and they both will make over 100million... Everything is staged and too bad the fight will actually be the least entertaining of it all, becaue floyd will still win a lopsided UD over PAC....
Come on tell us how you really feel ! ;D
Did that seem like a rant?? If it did, wasn't meant to be, it's just becoming a big YAWN.... Actually will be glad when the whole floyd chapter is closed. Been a supporter of his since then olympics, but I certainly won't miss him when he's done.
Now RJJ? :eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:
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So you think that Floyd Mayweather should be hauled up in court becasue he shouted at an 80 year old man who went on to threaten him because it might have caused the old man to have a heart attack simply because he has existing charges against him (which have not yet come to trial) and is a role model.
All this, despite the fact that
a) No crime has been committed (except perhaps by Merchant)
b) On law both sides of the Atlantic men are innocent until proven guilty
c) NOTHING ACTUALLY HAPPENED TO THE OLD MAN!!!
All I can say is: thank god you are too stupid to be a member of the judiciary in the Western world. If that is really what you think you should move to a bananna republic where there is no need for a judicial system and can just shoot people you don't like.
You are so much worse than Mayweather - you come accross like a Daily Mail reading "outraged from Tunbridge Wells" and I'm going to stay on your case now because you deserve it.
You have no grace, no detachment;
no recognition that you could be wrong and no excuse that it happened in the heat of the moment - unlike Mayweather. Give me him over you and your tabloid judgement any day.
Huh :confused:
I hate the tabloids actually. It's because of the media that Floyd gets a platform for this kind of shit.
He behaved disgracefully and he should be punished for it. I fully expect HBO and the whatever boxing board that sanctioned that fight to levy a heavy (by our standards, obviously not his) fine on him for his outburst.
Floyd has a long history of being a dick, just watch the recent 24/7 or any of the hundreds of videos of him on youtube threatening people or flashing his cash in his private life.
As a role model who earns hundreds of millions of pounds from the paying public he should be held accountable for his actions.
I get your point Bilbo but there is simply no such requirement. And that goes for all rich and famous people. Better not to try to make them into role models in the first place. You know many of the rich and famous mess up. For better or for worse,
they should not be role models. They are simply entertainers... and human beings.
How are kids supposed to know that?
Boxers as role models now? :D
