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Re: Why is crime so high in England?
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El Kabong
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Originally Posted by
TitoFan
Stats say you're 60 times more likely to get shot in the U.S. than in the UK. End of story. No amount of links, partial statistics, twisted logic, semantics, or otherwise can change that fact. And it's no big deal. Yes... there's way more guns in the U.S., so that is to be expected. Yes... gun violence is way more prevalent in the U.S. It's a non-argument, is all I'm saying. You can look at it right side up, upside down, whichever way you choose. Facts are facts and other than that they don't mean a damn thing.
OK, if guns are so illegal/highly regulated in England then why are people still getting shot Tito? And since there are over 200 million privately owned firearms in the US and all those guns are deadly and owned by rabid foaming at the mouth nutjobs why is it only 60 times more likely? 60 seems a bit low when you consider how many guns are in the US & how many are in England.
What would you consider more logical numbers? 1000 times more likely? Would that jive with the number of guns in the U.S. versus in England? I don't know, Lyle. All I know is that it's considerable less likely to get shot in England than in the U.S. Nothing more, nothing less. Is this a pretty solid statement given the vast number of guns in the U.S.? Absolutely. What does this mean in the grand scheme of things? I don't know Lyle. Only that it's significantly less likely to get shot in England than in the U.S.
Apparently the incidence of violent crime (not just guns) is higher per capita in the UK than in the U.S., if I'm understanding the reports correctly. Maybe when you factor that in, it would tend to push the "being shot" probability higher than it normally would, but still less than in the U.S. Make sense?
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Re: Why is crime so high in England?
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Greenbeanz
Violent Crime has been declining in the UK since the mid 90's.
The US Murder rate is 4 times higher than the UK's.
The US definition of Violent Crime = Murder and Non Negligent Manslaughter, Forcible Rape , Robbery and aggravated assault.
The UK Home Office definition of Violent Crime is ALL crimes against the person. ALL robberies, assaults and sexual offences.
I apologise if I came across as rude but UK crime statistics are significantly lower than people would have you believe. The opposition party will use the same statistics to prove the inadequacy of the Government in power, when it comes to law and order, that they will then present differently to prove how efficient they are when they are in Government. International Politics is no different.
Dia is right in pointing out how the few can tar the image of many. Knife crime is definitely more prevalent today than in my youth, when using a knife would be seen as cowardly even among the local gangs and hooligans. If you had a rumble in the past even between different crews, guns were virtually unheard of and blades were for the odd nutter, not widespread like today.
Definition of "violent crime". That is the gold nugget here.
If there's a difference in definition, any comparison of rates is going to be invalid.
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Re: Why is crime so high in England?
That link was strange in that it had an "assault victim" category and a "rape victim" category. In fairness I used victim of violent crime and victim of assault interchangeably when discussing the link.
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More population more crime,it's a fact as gun crime goes people have been killed by legal and elegal
held firearms in this Country. As in the States but more so, mass killings are on the up, over here
we do try to keep out of wrong hands criminals nut jobs. Gun's are not for ever one, and that's
the difference between us and the States.
Your right to bear Arms, criminals don't give a shit about laws if you really want a gun you can get
one. Remember I have been brought up with firearms, I am not anti gun but Firearms are not for
any Tom, Dick,or Harry. They are for law-abiding citizens, what we talking about here is violent crimes
not many involving guns.
This discussion is really about Crime, not Firearms.;)
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Re: Why is crime so high in England?
Tell you a story now about how police are so desperate not to arrest anyone that they drove a violent women home rather than the police station. She came back to the victim 45 minutes later and made more threats a further 3 police men detained her but did not want to arrest her. It was embarrassing seeing them running after her, like a benny hill sketch.
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Re: Why is crime so high in England?
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Master
Tell you a story now about how police are so desperate not to arrest anyone that they drove a violent women home rather than the police station. She came back to the victim 45 minutes later and made more threats a further 3 police men detained her but did not want to arrest her. It was embarrassing seeing them running after her, like a benny hill sketch.
....so someone got hit in the balls & Yakety Sax was playing?
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Re: Why is crime so high in England?
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killersheep
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mrbig1
I'm not comparing the UK to the USA. Crime has always been a problem here. On my trip in 82 I could walk the streets of London after dark with no worries. My American friend tells me it's really bad there. I just want to know what changed over the years?
No no no, that's not what you're asking, you're asking about gun rights in America.
Are you joking sir. I said nothing about guns. Gun or no gun crime is crime. I've never lived in the UK. Just went for 2 days. I had a great time. I love the UK. Just wanted to know what has happened over the years. Others had said no jobs and low wages which is the same reason as the U.S. Thank you Margaret Thatcher and the right wing bullshit that does more harm than good.
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Re: Why is crime so high in England?
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Dia bando
No jobs no hope and no money, we are bombarded adds for the fine things in life, phones, cars ,
clothes, etc with that little badge everybody want's.!
People today expect so much in life, and some people will steamroll others to get it, very sad fact the
amount of strutting fucking drug dealers local pisses me off.
They have never worked in there lives, riding round in there Range Rover Sports it's a fucking disgrace,
the one thing is most of the general public, are descent and hard working.
Remember we don't have the monopoly on bad bastards, all country's round the World have them you
can get rolled in London or Lisbon.:(
http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:A...lvAmxMJfbSkqeJ
Dont worry, Ill come out in a year or two and start fixin it for you.
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Re: Why is crime so high in England?
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El Kabong
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Originally Posted by
TitoFan
Stats say you're 60 times more likely to get shot in the U.S. than in the UK. End of story. No amount of links, partial statistics, twisted logic, semantics, or otherwise can change that fact. And it's no big deal. Yes... there's way more guns in the U.S., so that is to be expected. Yes... gun violence is way more prevalent in the U.S. It's a non-argument, is all I'm saying. You can look at it right side up, upside down, whichever way you choose. Facts are facts and other than that they don't mean a damn thing.
OK, if guns are so illegal/highly regulated in England then why are people still getting shot Tito? And since there are over 200 million privately owned firearms in the US and all those guns are deadly and owned by rabid foaming at the mouth nutjobs why is it only 60 times more likely? 60 seems a bit low when you consider how many guns are in the US & how many are in England.
I think to disarm everyone is as stupid as the reverse philosophy in arming everyone.
If you disarm do you really think all the criminals will hand their guns in too all the bikers all the gangs,the mob and all of the all of hundred of thousand runners these assholes use too?
If you do think it will help I think you are two sandwiches short of a picnic and I want you to tell me how can it will work on a broad scale?
Logically that leaves us with more stringent testing on who owns one and steeper laws in regards to security of the firearm and if it falls into someone elses hands (a family member etc) or you sell it on illegally and its used illegally you should answer for their crime right along side them.
Out here if you have a firearm it is in a gun safe unless you are heading for the range if the cops come around and ask your misses to inspect your guns EG while you are at work and she go finds the keys to the safe you lose everything, gun license the whole lot. Its you only and no one else gets to them ever, no spare keys lying around nothing.
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Re: Why is crime so high in England?
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Andre
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Originally Posted by
El Kabong
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Originally Posted by
TitoFan
Stats say you're 60 times more likely to get shot in the U.S. than in the UK. End of story. No amount of links, partial statistics, twisted logic, semantics, or otherwise can change that fact. And it's no big deal. Yes... there's way more guns in the U.S., so that is to be expected. Yes... gun violence is way more prevalent in the U.S. It's a non-argument, is all I'm saying. You can look at it right side up, upside down, whichever way you choose. Facts are facts and other than that they don't mean a damn thing.
OK, if guns are so illegal/highly regulated in England then why are people still getting shot Tito? And since there are over 200 million privately owned firearms in the US and all those guns are deadly and owned by rabid foaming at the mouth nutjobs why is it only 60 times more likely? 60 seems a bit low when you consider how many guns are in the US & how many are in England.
I think to disarm everyone is as stupid as the reverse philosophy in arming everyone.
If you disarm do you really think all the criminals will hand their guns in too all the bikers all the gangs,the mob and all of the all of hundred of thousand runners these assholes use too?
If you do think it will help I think you are two sandwiches short of a picnic and I want you to tell me how can it will work on a broad scale?
Logically that leaves us with more stringent testing on who owns one and steeper laws in regards to security of the firearm and if it falls into someone elses hands (a family member etc) or you sell it on illegally and its used illegally you should answer for their crime right along side them.
Out here if you have a firearm it is in a gun safe unless you are heading for the range if the cops come around and ask your misses to inspect your guns EG while you are at work and she go finds the keys to the safe you lose everything, gun license the whole lot. Its you only and no one else gets to them ever, no spare keys lying around nothing.
In one word: control.
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Re: Why is crime so high in England?
Andre,
If Aussies like that scenario then good on them but that would be absolutely untenable here.
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For sure you guys arm for a different reason; well we do too, same reason as you; but its a hidden agenda now, if you are well off you can afford the requirements: weapon, the ammo, the licensing ,the police background checks,the yearly fees for government, the yearly fees for a shooting club.
As we both know, thats how they got them out of the lower classes hands,that and offering an amnesty and buy back scheme.
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Re: Why is crime so high in England?
England can be a terrible place, but America with all those guns is far worse and logistics show it. Who gets machine gunned in England?
Don't be a tit and you are fine in England. Not being a tit means basically selling your soul though as English people have no souls.
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Re: Why is crime so high in England?
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Gandalf
England can be a terrible place, but America with all those guns is far worse and logistics show it. Who gets machine gunned in England?
Don't be a tit and you are fine in England. Not being a tit means basically selling your soul though as English people have no souls.
Nobody gets "machine gunned" in America either you stupid twat. To own a fully automatic firearm in the United States you have to have a class 3 license something that is extremely difficult and expensive to get.
How about you LEARN about firearms before making asinine comments about them
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Re: Why is crime so high in England?
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El Kabong
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Originally Posted by
Gandalf
England can be a terrible place, but America with all those guns is far worse and logistics show it. Who gets machine gunned in England?
Don't be a tit and you are fine in England. Not being a tit means basically selling your soul though as English people have no souls.
Nobody gets "machine gunned" in America either you stupid twat. To own a fully automatic firearm in the United States you have to have a class 3 license something that is extremely difficult and expensive to get.
How about you LEARN about firearms before making asinine comments about them
Like you know anything.
The last five masscares at schools have been tantamount to machine gun shootings.
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Re: Why is crime so high in England?
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Gandalf
Like you know anything.
The last five masscares at schools have been tantamount to machine gun shootings.
Tantamount- Equivalent in seriousness to; virtually the same as
:teacher: prepare to take notes
M-60 a "Machine Gun"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F09xFM0wmPI
AR-15
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3A395aImiYQ
Glock 19
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOYQ_jLyS_0
If you see the AR-15 & Glock 19 as "tantamount" to "machine guns" then that just further proves how fucking dumb you really are
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You are wanker with no empathy for those killed with those guns of horrid intent. Semantics are stupid when dealing with fatheaded clouts like you. And you are talking about crime?
America is a joke country. There is no comparison. South Africa maybe, but England....No.
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Re: Why is crime so high in England?
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Gandalf
You are wanker with no empathy for those killed with those guns of horrid intent. Semantics are stupid when dealing with fatheaded clouts like you. And you are talking about crime?
America is a joke country. There is no comparison. South Africa maybe, but England....No.
Miles, I have empathy for those killed, but not so much that I will surrender my rights to the Federal Government only an idiot would suggest that.
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Re: Why is crime so high in England?
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El Kabong
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Gandalf
You are wanker with no empathy for those killed with those guns of horrid intent. Semantics are stupid when dealing with fatheaded clouts like you. And you are talking about crime?
America is a joke country. There is no comparison. South Africa maybe, but England....No.
Miles, I have empathy for those killed, but not so much that I will surrender my rights to the Federal Government only an idiot would suggest that.
You are an idiot. And you have no choice. So you have no point. Nuke by shotgun? Just stupid.
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Re: Why is crime so high in England?
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Gandalf
You are an idiot. And you have no choice. So you have no point. Nuke by shotgun? Just stupid.
For an "English Teacher" you seem to be having a difficult time putting together a rational post. Also I would like to inform you that "And you have no choice." is an incomplete sentence as are "So you have no point.", "Nuke by Shotgun?", & "Just Stupid."....I hope that helps you in your future posts "Professor"
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Re: Why is crime so high in England?
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Gandalf
You are wanker with no empathy for those killed with those guns of horrid intent. Semantics are stupid when dealing with fatheaded clouts like you. And you are talking about crime?
America is a joke country. There is no comparison. South Africa maybe, but England....No.
No comparison? I'd say being twice as likely to be assaulted or raped hardly something to hang your hat on.
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This is about crime, not fucking GUN'S let's stick to the crime discussion please.
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Re: Why is crime so high in England?
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VictorCharlie
No comparison? I'd say being twice as likely to be assaulted or raped hardly something to hang your hat on.
And miles what do you have to say in response to that?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXT6wfeo_V8
.......oooooookay
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Re: Why is crime so high in England?
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VictorCharlie
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Gandalf
You are wanker with no empathy for those killed with those guns of horrid intent. Semantics are stupid when dealing with fatheaded clouts like you. And you are talking about crime?
America is a joke country. There is no comparison. South Africa maybe, but England....No.
No comparison? I'd say being twice as likely to be assaulted or raped hardly something to hang your hat on.
According to who ? The statistics do not support such an easy supposition. The willingness to report crime, the prosecuting authorities definition of crime, The populations definition of crime, are all extremely different in both countries. In some cases almost diametrically opposed. If I am 668 times more likely to be murdered in the US with a firearm than the UK then the comparison is pretty clear and obvious but what an American citizen would class as an assault and would a British citizen would think constitutes assault, are much more fuzzy. So many assaults are not recorded. On top of that you have to factor what the law in each country classes as an assault. You then have to factor in the fact that all though many people report crimes not all cases are prosecutable and the factors that decide this are again very different in each country. Then you have to factor in the simple truth that America imprisons far more criminals percentage wise than the UK. Crime is not so high in England as the OP has suggested nor has it risen dramatically.
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Gandalf
England can be a terrible place, but America with all those guns is far worse and logistics show it. Who gets machine gunned in England?
Don't be a tit and you are fine in England. Not being a tit means basically selling your soul though as English people have no souls.
What a pretentious load of twaddle. You have as little faith in humanity as the religious far right nihilists that you so despise. People are not basically evil, vacuous or simple and yet you have to believe this in order to feel superior. Since when has one country had the monopoly on depth of character or generousness, vivacity, ingenuity, philanthropy or empathy ?
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Re: Why is crime so high in England?
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Greenbeanz
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Originally Posted by
Gandalf
England can be a terrible place, but America with all those guns is far worse and logistics show it. Who gets machine gunned in England?
Don't be a tit and you are fine in England. Not being a tit means basically selling your soul though as English people have no souls.
What a pretentious load of twaddle. You have as little faith in humanity as the religious far right nihilists that you so despise. People are not basically evil, vacuous or simple and yet you have to believe this in order to feel superior. Since when has one country had the monopoly on depth of character or generousness, vivacity, ingenuity, philanthropy or empathy ?
...They say pessimists live longer than optimists. If that is true, miles may never die he is the human form of Grumpy Cat
http://thechive.files.wordpress.com/...gb3zo1_400.gif
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Greenbeanz
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Originally Posted by
VictorCharlie
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Gandalf
You are wanker with no empathy for those killed with those guns of horrid intent. Semantics are stupid when dealing with fatheaded clouts like you. And you are talking about crime?
America is a joke country. There is no comparison. South Africa maybe, but England....No.
No comparison? I'd say being twice as likely to be assaulted or raped hardly something to hang your hat on.
According to who ? The statistics do not support such an easy supposition. The willingness to report crime, the prosecuting authorities definition of crime, The populations definition of crime, are all extremely different in both countries. In some cases almost diametrically opposed. If I am 668 times more likely to be murdered in the US with a firearm than the UK then the comparison is pretty clear and obvious but what an American citizen would class as an assault and would a British citizen would think constitutes assault, are much more fuzzy. So many assaults are not recorded. On top of that you have to factor what the law in each country classes as an assault. You then have to factor in the fact that all though many people report crimes not all cases are prosecutable and the factors that decide this are again very different in each country. Then you have to factor in the simple truth that America imprisons far more criminals percentage wise than the UK. Crime is not so high in England as the OP has suggested nor has it risen dramatically.
I'm basing that statement on the link I posted previously. 2.8% of UK citizens are victims of assault versus 1.2% of US citizens; 0.9% of UK citizens are victims of rape compared to 0.4% of US citizens per the United Nations Inter-regional Crime and Justice Research Institute. I'm not claiming those stats to be infallible nor that there are not other perspectives on them but even if they are off by a percentage point then really the likelihood of being assaulted or raped is about the same and hence comparable.
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VictorCharlie
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Greenbeanz
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Originally Posted by
VictorCharlie
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Originally Posted by
Gandalf
You are wanker with no empathy for those killed with those guns of horrid intent. Semantics are stupid when dealing with fatheaded clouts like you. And you are talking about crime?
America is a joke country. There is no comparison. South Africa maybe, but England....No.
No comparison? I'd say being twice as likely to be assaulted or raped hardly something to hang your hat on.
According to who ? The statistics do not support such an easy supposition. The willingness to report crime, the prosecuting authorities definition of crime, The populations definition of crime, are all extremely different in both countries. In some cases almost diametrically opposed. If I am 668 times more likely to be murdered in the US with a firearm than the UK then the comparison is pretty clear and obvious but what an American citizen would class as an assault and would a British citizen would think constitutes assault, are much more fuzzy. So many assaults are not recorded. On top of that you have to factor what the law in each country classes as an assault. You then have to factor in the fact that all though many people report crimes not all cases are prosecutable and the factors that decide this are again very different in each country. Then you have to factor in the simple truth that America imprisons far more criminals percentage wise than the UK. Crime is not so high in England as the OP has suggested nor has it risen dramatically.
I'm basing that statement on the link I posted previously. 2.8% of UK citizens are victims of assault versus 1.2% of US citizens; 0.9% of UK citizens are victims of rape compared to 0.4% of US citizens per the United Nations Inter-regional Crime and Justice Research Institute. I'm not claiming those stats to be infallible nor that there are not other perspectives on them but even if they are off by a percentage point then really the likelihood of being assaulted or raped is about the same and hence comparable.
Interesting on theses facts and figures, being you must have a bigger percentage of violent crime
it has to be with the much bigger population.!
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Dia bando
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VictorCharlie
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Originally Posted by
Greenbeanz
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Originally Posted by
VictorCharlie
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Originally Posted by
Gandalf
You are wanker with no empathy for those killed with those guns of horrid intent. Semantics are stupid when dealing with fatheaded clouts like you. And you are talking about crime?
America is a joke country. There is no comparison. South Africa maybe, but England....No.
No comparison? I'd say being twice as likely to be assaulted or raped hardly something to hang your hat on.
According to who ? The statistics do not support such an easy supposition. The willingness to report crime, the prosecuting authorities definition of crime, The populations definition of crime, are all extremely different in both countries. In some cases almost diametrically opposed. If I am 668 times more likely to be murdered in the US with a firearm than the UK then the comparison is pretty clear and obvious but what an American citizen would class as an assault and would a British citizen would think constitutes assault, are much more fuzzy. So many assaults are not recorded. On top of that you have to factor what the law in each country classes as an assault. You then have to factor in the fact that all though many people report crimes not all cases are prosecutable and the factors that decide this are again very different in each country. Then you have to factor in the simple truth that America imprisons far more criminals percentage wise than the UK. Crime is not so high in England as the OP has suggested nor has it risen dramatically.
I'm basing that statement on the link I posted previously. 2.8% of UK citizens are victims of assault versus 1.2% of US citizens; 0.9% of UK citizens are victims of rape compared to 0.4% of US citizens per the United Nations Inter-regional Crime and Justice Research Institute. I'm not claiming those stats to be infallible nor that there are not other perspectives on them but even if they are off by a percentage point then really the likelihood of being assaulted or raped is about the same and hence comparable.
Interesting on theses facts and figures, being you must have a bigger percentage of violent crime
it has to be with the much bigger population.!
and bigger penises.
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The link had total US crimes at almost 12 million and UK at 6.5 million but the percent of crime (any type) victim was 5.3% higher in the UK. 21.1% in the US to 26.4% in the UK. Off the top of my head I think the UK has about 20% of our population. So going strictly by the link's stats each nation has their specific crime issues with the UK having more crime per-capita but obviously the US is holding the torch on homicide by a hefty margin..
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Re: Why is crime so high in England?
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El Kabong
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Originally Posted by
Greenbeanz
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Originally Posted by
Gandalf
England can be a terrible place, but America with all those guns is far worse and logistics show it. Who gets machine gunned in England?
Don't be a tit and you are fine in England. Not being a tit means basically selling your soul though as English people have no souls.
What a pretentious load of twaddle. You have as little faith in humanity as the religious far right nihilists that you so despise. People are not basically evil, vacuous or simple and yet you have to believe this in order to feel superior. Since when has one country had the monopoly on depth of character or generousness, vivacity, ingenuity, philanthropy or empathy ?
...They say pessimists live longer than optimists. If that is true, miles may never die he is the human form of Grumpy Cat
http://thechive.files.wordpress.com/...gb3zo1_400.gif
awww he is adorable and just needs more cuddles.
The cat is weird though
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Re: Why is crime so high in England?
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Greenbeanz
Perspective is important. Crime is at its lowest point in the last 50 years in the US as well. Truthfully you are probably safer now in the US from crime than at any other point in our history. Wouldn't know it by listening to the talking heads though. Nothing sells like carnage and fear mongering.
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Forget stats for a minute. Most violent crime is toward a targeted victim. You use an ATM at night in a shady neighborhood... you're asking for trouble. You start an argument in a bar known for belligerent drunks... ditto. So while much of this crime is unavoidable, many victims could've probably taken steps to avoid the incident.
But what about the phenomenon of the shooting spree? What about the poor bastard who happened to be at the shopping mall at precisely the time when Joe Blow... recently fired from his job... appeared with part of his basement arms cache, and decided to take out his frustrations on humanity? What about the poor bastards in Maryland who were picked off one by one, over the course of several weeks, by some bored sniper in a van with his son?
Crime per capita may or may not be higher in England than in the U.S. Times are tough... and crime is high in most densely populated areas of the world. Personally, I'd rather live in a place where I can lessen (not eliminate) the chances of being a victim by following some common sense rules.... than live some place where I can be a victim just because some fucking Rambo snapped, and I was in the wrong place at the wrong time.
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As already said comparing certain statistics is pointless as our definition of 'violent crime' may differ. The only statistic that can't be interpreted differently is murder, and we all know who's worse off there! ;)
I was in Bogota in 2007 and in the reception of the hostel I was staying at was a US newspaper article pinned to the wall. At that time the US government strictly advised US citizens visiting Bogata or Colombia due to the high murder rate. Yet next to the article was United Nations report detailing which capital cities had the highest murder rate per capita.
I can't remember the exact figures, but the owner of the hostel highlighted Washington DC on the list and Bogota on the list.
The rate per capita in Washington was way higher than Bogota :o
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My stats were from a UN research council that set their own definition to compare/contrast.
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Re: Why is crime so high in England?
Crime what's the answers, is it poverty , easy money or are they are just bad bastards, I feel no Country has the monopoly on violent crime,it's a problem everybody seem,s to have, do you beat
it by zero tolerance Policing, lock people up for a long time.!
You can look at problem's simple, but I don't think there is no easy fix, what would you try and do.!:-\
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Re: Why is crime so high in England?
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Greenbeanz
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Originally Posted by
Gandalf
England can be a terrible place, but America with all those guns is far worse and logistics show it. Who gets machine gunned in England?
Don't be a tit and you are fine in England. Not being a tit means basically selling your soul though as English people have no souls.
What a pretentious load of twaddle. You have as little faith in humanity as the religious far right nihilists that you so despise. People are not basically evil, vacuous or simple and yet you have to believe this in order to feel superior. Since when has one country had the monopoly on depth of character or generousness, vivacity, ingenuity, philanthropy or empathy ?
In fairness it was a pretty throwaway line. Its simplicity was testament to that. I am surprised it even elicited a response. I won't try to defend it as it just is what it is. Maybe I should have said that there is no such thing as a soul, or that mass consumers exhibit less heart than people who don't have a choice of packaging types, or said in brackets 'don't take a throwaway comment too literally'.
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Gandalf
I won't try to defend it
Translation "I wanted to get a rise out of someone to boost my ego"
That's the way it works with miles. He gets the free reign to say anything he wishes, and then waits to trash anyone who opposes it by mocking their lack of intelligence or ridiculing their views as "crazy" or "nonsense". It's a typical liberal plan of attack, you just would like to whitewash everything in opposition to you as either stupid or crazy.
You're right about souls though.....you don't have one miles
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Re: Why is crime so high in England?
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El Kabong
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Gandalf
I won't try to defend it
Translation "I wanted to get a rise out of someone to boost my ego"
That's the way it works with miles. He gets the free reign to say anything he wishes, and then waits to trash anyone who opposes it by mocking their lack of intelligence or ridiculing their views as "crazy" or "nonsense". It's a typical liberal plan of attack, you just would like to whitewash everything in opposition to you as either stupid or crazy.
You're right about souls though.....you don't have one miles
I really have no idea what that rant is about. 'It is a typical liberal plan of attack'....you are a fucking freak. You have no soul either, so what is your point? Not that I care....;)
