Why is crime so high in England?

[VictorCharlie]

You are wanker with no empathy for those killed with those guns of horrid intent. Semantics are stupid when dealing with fatheaded clouts like you. And you are talking about crime?

America is a joke country. There is no comparison. South Africa maybe, but England....No.

No comparison? I'd say being twice as likely to be assaulted or raped hardly something to hang your hat on.

[Dia bando]

This is about crime, not fucking GUN'S let's stick to the crime discussion please.

[El Kabong]

No comparison? I'd say being twice as likely to be assaulted or raped hardly something to hang your hat on.

And miles what do you have to say in response to that?




.......oooooookay

[Beanz]

You are wanker with no empathy for those killed with those guns of horrid intent. Semantics are stupid when dealing with fatheaded clouts like you. And you are talking about crime?

America is a joke country. There is no comparison. South Africa maybe, but England....No.

No comparison? I'd say being twice as likely to be assaulted or raped hardly something to hang your hat on.

According to who ? The statistics do not support such an easy supposition. The willingness to report crime, the prosecuting authorities definition of crime, The populations definition of crime, are all extremely different in both countries. In some cases almost diametrically opposed. If I am 668 times more likely to be murdered in the US with a firearm than the UK then the comparison is pretty clear and obvious but what an American citizen would class as an assault and would a British citizen would think constitutes assault, are much more fuzzy. So many assaults are not recorded. On top of that you have to factor what the law in each country classes as an assault. You then have to factor in the fact that all though many people report crimes not all cases are prosecutable and the factors that decide this are again very different in each country. Then you have to factor in the simple truth that America imprisons far more criminals percentage wise than the UK. Crime is not so high in England as the OP has suggested nor has it risen dramatically.

[Beanz]

England can be a terrible place, but America with all those guns is far worse and logistics show it. Who gets machine gunned in England?

Don't be a tit and you are fine in England. Not being a tit means basically selling your soul though as English people have no souls.

What a pretentious load of twaddle. You have as little faith in humanity as the religious far right nihilists that you so despise. People are not basically evil, vacuous or simple and yet you have to believe this in order to feel superior. Since when has one country had the monopoly on depth of character or generousness, vivacity, ingenuity, philanthropy or empathy ?

[El Kabong]

England can be a terrible place, but America with all those guns is far worse and logistics show it. Who gets machine gunned in England?

Don't be a tit and you are fine in England. Not being a tit means basically selling your soul though as English people have no souls.

What a pretentious load of twaddle. You have as little faith in humanity as the religious far right nihilists that you so despise. People are not basically evil, vacuous or simple and yet you have to believe this in order to feel superior. Since when has one country had the monopoly on depth of character or generousness, vivacity, ingenuity, philanthropy or empathy ?

...They say pessimists live longer than optimists. If that is true, miles may never die he is the human form of Grumpy Cat

[VictorCharlie]

You are wanker with no empathy for those killed with those guns of horrid intent. Semantics are stupid when dealing with fatheaded clouts like you. And you are talking about crime?

America is a joke country. There is no comparison. South Africa maybe, but England....No.

No comparison? I'd say being twice as likely to be assaulted or raped hardly something to hang your hat on.

According to who ? The statistics do not support such an easy supposition. The willingness to report crime, the prosecuting authorities definition of crime, The populations definition of crime, are all extremely different in both countries. In some cases almost diametrically opposed. If I am 668 times more likely to be murdered in the US with a firearm than the UK then the comparison is pretty clear and obvious but what an American citizen would class as an assault and would a British citizen would think constitutes assault, are much more fuzzy. So many assaults are not recorded. On top of that you have to factor what the law in each country classes as an assault. You then have to factor in the fact that all though many people report crimes not all cases are prosecutable and the factors that decide this are again very different in each country. Then you have to factor in the simple truth that America imprisons far more criminals percentage wise than the UK. Crime is not so high in England as the OP has suggested nor has it risen dramatically.

I'm basing that statement on the link I posted previously. 2.8% of UK citizens are victims of assault versus 1.2% of US citizens; 0.9% of UK citizens are victims of rape compared to 0.4% of US citizens per the United Nations Inter-regional Crime and Justice Research Institute. I'm not claiming those stats to be infallible nor that there are not other perspectives on them but even if they are off by a percentage point then really the likelihood of being assaulted or raped is about the same and hence comparable.

[Dia bando]

You are wanker with no empathy for those killed with those guns of horrid intent. Semantics are stupid when dealing with fatheaded clouts like you. And you are talking about crime?

America is a joke country. There is no comparison. South Africa maybe, but England....No.

No comparison? I'd say being twice as likely to be assaulted or raped hardly something to hang your hat on.

According to who ? The statistics do not support such an easy supposition. The willingness to report crime, the prosecuting authorities definition of crime, The populations definition of crime, are all extremely different in both countries. In some cases almost diametrically opposed. If I am 668 times more likely to be murdered in the US with a firearm than the UK then the comparison is pretty clear and obvious but what an American citizen would class as an assault and would a British citizen would think constitutes assault, are much more fuzzy. So many assaults are not recorded. On top of that you have to factor what the law in each country classes as an assault. You then have to factor in the fact that all though many people report crimes not all cases are prosecutable and the factors that decide this are again very different in each country. Then you have to factor in the simple truth that America imprisons far more criminals percentage wise than the UK. Crime is not so high in England as the OP has suggested nor has it risen dramatically.

I'm basing that statement on the link I posted previously. 2.8% of UK citizens are victims of assault versus 1.2% of US citizens; 0.9% of UK citizens are victims of rape compared to 0.4% of US citizens per the United Nations Inter-regional Crime and Justice Research Institute. I'm not claiming those stats to be infallible nor that there are not other perspectives on them but even if they are off by a percentage point then really the likelihood of being assaulted or raped is about the same and hence comparable.

Interesting on theses facts and figures, being you must have a bigger percentage of violent crime
it has to be with the much bigger population.!

[Andre]

You are wanker with no empathy for those killed with those guns of horrid intent. Semantics are stupid when dealing with fatheaded clouts like you. And you are talking about crime?

America is a joke country. There is no comparison. South Africa maybe, but England....No.

No comparison? I'd say being twice as likely to be assaulted or raped hardly something to hang your hat on.

According to who ? The statistics do not support such an easy supposition. The willingness to report crime, the prosecuting authorities definition of crime, The populations definition of crime, are all extremely different in both countries. In some cases almost diametrically opposed. If I am 668 times more likely to be murdered in the US with a firearm than the UK then the comparison is pretty clear and obvious but what an American citizen would class as an assault and would a British citizen would think constitutes assault, are much more fuzzy. So many assaults are not recorded. On top of that you have to factor what the law in each country classes as an assault. You then have to factor in the fact that all though many people report crimes not all cases are prosecutable and the factors that decide this are again very different in each country. Then you have to factor in the simple truth that America imprisons far more criminals percentage wise than the UK. Crime is not so high in England as the OP has suggested nor has it risen dramatically.

I'm basing that statement on the link I posted previously. 2.8% of UK citizens are victims of assault versus 1.2% of US citizens; 0.9% of UK citizens are victims of rape compared to 0.4% of US citizens per the United Nations Inter-regional Crime and Justice Research Institute. I'm not claiming those stats to be infallible nor that there are not other perspectives on them but even if they are off by a percentage point then really the likelihood of being assaulted or raped is about the same and hence comparable.

Interesting on theses facts and figures, being you must have a bigger percentage of violent crime
it has to be with the much bigger population.!

and bigger penises.

[Beanz]

Crime statistics for England & Wales: violent crime and sexual offences | News | guardian.co.uk



The UK is officially getting safer – no thanks to party politics | Ally Fogg | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk

[VictorCharlie]

The link had total US crimes at almost 12 million and UK at 6.5 million but the percent of crime (any type) victim was 5.3% higher in the UK. 21.1% in the US to 26.4% in the UK. Off the top of my head I think the UK has about 20% of our population. So going strictly by the link's stats each nation has their specific crime issues with the UK having more crime per-capita but obviously the US is holding the torch on homicide by a hefty margin..

[Beanz]

England can be a terrible place, but America with all those guns is far worse and logistics show it. Who gets machine gunned in England?

Don't be a tit and you are fine in England. Not being a tit means basically selling your soul though as English people have no souls.

What a pretentious load of twaddle. You have as little faith in humanity as the religious far right nihilists that you so despise. People are not basically evil, vacuous or simple and yet you have to believe this in order to feel superior. Since when has one country had the monopoly on depth of character or generousness, vivacity, ingenuity, philanthropy or empathy ?

...They say pessimists live longer than optimists. If that is true, miles may never die he is the human form of Grumpy Cat

awww he is adorable and just needs more cuddles.






































































The cat is weird though

[VictorCharlie]

Crime statistics for England & Wales: violent crime and sexual offences | News | guardian.co.uk



The UK is officially getting safer – no thanks to party politics | Ally Fogg | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk

Perspective is important. Crime is at its lowest point in the last 50 years in the US as well. Truthfully you are probably safer now in the US from crime than at any other point in our history. Wouldn't know it by listening to the talking heads though. Nothing sells like carnage and fear mongering.

[TitoFan]

Forget stats for a minute. Most violent crime is toward a targeted victim. You use an ATM at night in a shady neighborhood... you're asking for trouble. You start an argument in a bar known for belligerent drunks... ditto. So while much of this crime is unavoidable, many victims could've probably taken steps to avoid the incident.

But what about the phenomenon of the shooting spree? What about the poor bastard who happened to be at the shopping mall at precisely the time when Joe Blow... recently fired from his job... appeared with part of his basement arms cache, and decided to take out his frustrations on humanity? What about the poor bastards in Maryland who were picked off one by one, over the course of several weeks, by some bored sniper in a van with his son?

Crime per capita may or may not be higher in England than in the U.S. Times are tough... and crime is high in most densely populated areas of the world. Personally, I'd rather live in a place where I can lessen (not eliminate) the chances of being a victim by following some common sense rules.... than live some place where I can be a victim just because some fucking Rambo snapped, and I was in the wrong place at the wrong time.

[Conrad]

As already said comparing certain statistics is pointless as our definition of 'violent crime' may differ. The only statistic that can't be interpreted differently is murder, and we all know who's worse off there!

I was in Bogota in 2007 and in the reception of the hostel I was staying at was a US newspaper article pinned to the wall. At that time the US government strictly advised US citizens visiting Bogata or Colombia due to the high murder rate. Yet next to the article was United Nations report detailing which capital cities had the highest murder rate per capita.

I can't remember the exact figures, but the owner of the hostel highlighted Washington DC on the list and Bogota on the list.

The rate per capita in Washington was way higher than Bogota