Yeah, I'm rewatching the Pavlik fight now and already I can see a noticable decline in his footwork.Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Yeah, I'm rewatching the Pavlik fight now and already I can see a noticable decline in his footwork.Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by Beanflicker
And that was 3 years ago. There's no arguing that Martinez has been on a gradual, steady decline... at least physically. He's a seasoned veteran, so he's been able to get through the opposition in his last few fights. But his age and the wear and tear on his body has been evident for some time. People make the mistake of thinking he's still near his peak, maybe because of the thorough and humiliating schooling he delivered to Chavez Jr. in his previous fight. But make no mistake about it... Martinez's best days are far behind him.
The knee surgery is the worst thing that could of happened to him. He needs his legs to be successful. With them he's a great fighter. Without them he struggles to beat Murray.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeanflickerYeah, I'm rewatching the Pavlik fight now and already I can see a noticable decline in his footwork.Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent Demise
Yeah you guys are right, I've been watching bits of each fight and there's a steady physical decline.
It's a shame it took him so long to break through and become a "star".
@Beanflicker - as a Martinez fan, I'm holding out hope that he has one or two more great performances left in him. As I mentioned in another thread, I noticed that he didn't look as cut up as he typically does for a fight. He appeared more fleshy. It could be attributed to the fact that his camp wasn't normal due to having to focus on his rehabilitating his knee. Thus, there is a chance that if he is able to completely rehabilitate his body before the training camp for his next fight that he might still have a great performance or two left in him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanflicker
I don't doubt he has a few good performances left in him. I think this is a more interesting time in the career of speedsters because the speed and reflexes aren't what they used to be and they have to start really digging deep to pull out the win. It's a lot more compelling than watching a guy potshot his opponent for 12 rounds.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rantcatrat
To me it was pretty obvious his knee wasn't ok. Murray fought a hell of a fight and deserved the no but Martinez has previously made mince meat of guys who fight in straight lines. He wasn't able to turn Murray at all, which he has always been so good at and that's what creates a
Lot of his offense using those odd angles. I don't think at 38 that that knee of his will ever heal and restore to previous form. I don't think he was overrated either.
Without a doubt it was his knee. Blind man could see he was having trouble with his movements.Quote:
Originally Posted by amat