Quote Originally Posted by Beanflicker View Post
I always thought Martinez was a tad overrated, and I hate to say that because it's always the cheap thing to do to knock a guy after a tough fight, but it's the truth. A great boxing talent, for sure, but I never put him in the same class as a Mayweather, Andre Ward or Bernard Hopkins. Too many flaws.

I don't know if he's past his prime per say, but I think he's always had a trouble with those tricky jabbers. Kelly Pavlik largely outboxed him in the early rounds of their fight IMO with his jab, until he got cut badly and kinda lost his focus.

But at Martinez's age to be taking the kind of punishment he has taken in his last few fights, I think probably does suggest that his reflexes are starting to fail him.
It was obvious his knee isn't the same. Murray is not a fast fighter. And he had no problems catching him