Take action now- tell Russia : Release the Greenpeace activists

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Originally Posted by Andre

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Originally Posted by NVSemin

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Originally Posted by Greenbeanz

We can all do something to make a difference. Don't just let them be another face on the news. It takes seconds and can be done in less time than it takes to roll one up or make a cup of tea. Click on the link below and then hit the orange TAKE ACTION NOW button and send a message to those who think they can do what they like to your planet. TELL RUSSIA - RELEASE THE GREENPEACE ACTIVISTS.




Greenpeace UK

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You are bunch of hypocrites
I wish these GREENPEACE BEANS will be taught some lesson

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Well NVSemin you started with this quote and then got all religious on us to try and back it up.
You have a beam in your eye over what you determine is a splinter in beans. ;)

I gave up asking if you would reach down and help out another cause I got more scriptural stuff as well as unjustly stating that im taking my scriptural line that I put in out of context and it isnt.

The whole chapter I just put up right there is the exact context we are talking about. Its about doing whats right,action and producing, not talking and preaching.

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St Francis of Assisi told his followers "Now go out and preach the gospel, but use no words."

All the religious nuts go to a thread of your own , Beanz gave his point of view on the activists , which is fine , how the fuck did we get on the fairy tale of religion ?

If you wanna chat about GOD go start your own thread and I for one will not bother you there.

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Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al

All the religious nuts go to a thread of your own , Beanz gave his point of view on the activists , which is fine , how the fuck did we get on the fairy tale of religion ?

If you wanna chat about GOD go start your own thread and I for one will not bother you there.

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How many threads here actually stay on topic. If we made a God thread it would undoubtedly turn into a Mexico v Puerto Rican debate.

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Originally Posted by walrus

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Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al

All the religious nuts go to a thread of your own , Beanz gave his point of view on the activists , which is fine , how the fuck did we get on the fairy tale of religion ?

If you wanna chat about GOD go start your own thread and I for one will not bother you there.

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How many threads here actually stay on topic. If we made a God thread it would undoubtedly turn into a Mexico v Puerto Rican debate.

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Thing is Christians take that line "if you confess me to men I will confess you to the Father thing way too far" ( I mean to say what about confessing him to women too)!!!

So they do it every chance they get what ever the subject matter,they are waiting there for the moment to turn the subject into a why they must preach to you.

Similar to cold call door knocking online.;D

Still the other week I have to hand it to the Mormons (Church of latter day saints ) they walk their talk.
They were the only group around here and one I have nothing to do with what so ever, who brought cooked food around to my doorstep and left it there,just cause they heard what happened through someone else. :cool:They went right up in my estimation, now on par with the Salvation Army. There are some great people out there in every area you can imagine.

I hear you, I also have respect for the Mormons and the Jehovas. Granted they can be annoying coming to the door and what not but they are trying to do the right thing. That book of Mormon is a tough read. I am neither a Jehovah's or a Mormon but many of them have been sincere in the discussions I have had with them

True mate,whatever different groups get up to ,most are trying their best for you and believe that they have to try to help us, so we have to let it go even when they do get annoying tapping on the door during a Satanic ritual or what not ;D.

The Salvos are the best in my mind though they really get their hands dirty they are in and out of jails on the streets feeding the poor sheltering the young and vulnerable and they do it even when it leans on their other rules .
We had a couple of young kids out on the street very late one night here the girl underage by a few months the boyfriend just over so the government wouldnt help them out during the day and wanted them parted.The Salvos stepped in at about 9pm that night after i called them and put the two of them up in a motel for a night to keep them from sleeping out in a park and her being at risk cause there was no way young bloke couldnt of protected her on his own.

Let these Greenpeace idiots rot in a Russian jail.

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Originally Posted by Beanflicker

Let these Greenpeace idiots rot in a Russian jail.

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Nice.

So Gazprom is now more important as an entity than the Arctic ?

Is it really just and commendable to imprison those drawing attention to a stupid and greed driven enterprise, eschewing any human rights those protesters and accompanying journalists may have, just to protect a global energy corporation from any bad publicity?

Greenpeace protests at Arctic conference, decrying Russia's detention of activists | Alaska Dispatch

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Originally Posted by IamInuit

The trouble with activism is that there are to many activists. Greenpeace is as big a multinational as those it protests against. It fuels them lol as it did the boat motors and expense they committed to which allowed the protest. Its the very reason Watson quit and the very reason I quit the Sierra Club 25 years ago. Walmart activism. The fossil fuel war ends with the supply. Same with drugs. It remains to be seen whether we witness either.

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Originally Posted by Andre

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Originally Posted by IamInuit

The trouble with activism is that there are to many activists. Greenpeace is as big a multinational as those it protests against. It fuels them lol as it did the boat motors and expense they committed to which allowed the protest. Its the very reason Watson quit and the very reason I quit the Sierra Club 25 years ago. Walmart activism. The fossil fuel war ends with the supply. Same with drugs. It remains to be seen whether we witness either.

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Watson and Sea shepherd, gotta love that action its for real; now that can be seen as piracy of sorts.

But Green peace? Like you say, they are far from it, even lame.

Sounds like this piracy action is a legal manipulation from business insiders to drain Greenpeace funds so the same big business can go onto plunder natural reserves unheeded. I bet down the track the lawyers, politicians police etc that keep Greenpeace off their backs will get their big kick backs or future funding taken care of.

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Gazprom are one of the largest companies in the world. Greenpeace foundation have done nothing to highlight the problems associated with drilling in the Arctic. I am not a member of either organisation, what you would call the multi national or the original Vancouver based charity. What Russia is doing in bastardising a law for piracy that does not apply here is wrong though. Imprisoning people on behalf of a company is what it is and it took me no time to sign to say I think such behaviour is wrong. Even Putin admitted it was not piracy and as usual many westerners turn away and avert their gaze as Russia does as it pleases.

Drilling for Oil in the Arctic is dangerous,expensive and creates huge risk to wildllife many of which migrate there. In ice and with little hope of a rational and quality response a spill would be disastrous. I don't think risking imprisonment for your beliefs can fairly be called lame, whoever you work/volunteer for. They have created awareness and for that I am grateful.

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Originally Posted by Greenbeanz

Nice.

So Gazprom is now more important as an entity than the Arctic ?

Is it really just and commendable to imprison those drawing attention to a stupid and greed driven enterprise, eschewing any human rights those protesters and accompanying journalists may have, just to protect a global energy corporation from any bad publicity?

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I don't necessarily disagree with Greenpeace's causes, but I disagree heavily with their methods.

Guys, please, cut this crap
The West hates Russia because we do not support gay's stuff
The rest, like this Greenpeace bullshit, is simply one way of many using some "serious reason" to put more sticks in our wheels
I suggest the Greenpeace activists to fix problems in their countries first, then go bug Russia

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Originally Posted by Greenbeanz

I don't think risking imprisonment for your beliefs can fairly be called lame, whoever you work/volunteer for. They have created awareness and for that I am grateful.

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Here's the reality, though: people, in general, are lazy. Only a small minority will dig deeper into a story.

Just about every article on this situation talks about the act and the consequences. People are told that some activists tried to storm a rig, got arrested for piracy, and are now being refused bail. Only a small blip of these articles (and a lot of times, not even a blip) actually address the actual issues and grievances Greenpeace has.

This is why I hate their methods.

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Originally Posted by Greenbeanz

Drilling for Oil in the Arctic is dangerous,expensive and creates huge risk to wildllife many of which migrate there. In ice and with little hope of a rational and quality response a spill would be disastrous. I don't think risking imprisonment for your beliefs can fairly be called lame, whoever you work/volunteer for. They have created awareness and for that I am grateful.

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What if one day you realize this was one big LIE?

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Originally Posted by NVSemin

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Originally Posted by Greenbeanz

Drilling for Oil in the Arctic is dangerous,expensive and creates huge risk to wildllife many of which migrate there. In ice and with little hope of a rational and quality response a spill would be disastrous. I don't think risking imprisonment for your beliefs can fairly be called lame, whoever you work/volunteer for. They have created awareness and for that I am grateful.

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What if one day you realize this was one big LIE?

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What the foundation of your beliefs ?

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Originally Posted by NVSemin

Guys, please, cut this crap
The West hates Russia because we do not support gay's stuff
The rest, like this Greenpeace bullshit, is simply one way of many using some "serious reason" to put more sticks in our wheels
I suggest the Greenpeace activists to fix problems in their countries first, then go bug Russia

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If that is true why are you using a British based website ?

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Originally Posted by Beanflicker

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Originally Posted by Greenbeanz

I don't think risking imprisonment for your beliefs can fairly be called lame, whoever you work/volunteer for. They have created awareness and for that I am grateful.

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Here's the reality, though: people, in general, are lazy. Only a small minority will dig deeper into a story.

Just about every article on this situation talks about the act and the consequences. People are told that some activists tried to storm a rig, got arrested for piracy, and are now being refused bail. Only a small blip of these articles (and a lot of times, not even a blip) actually address the actual issues and grievances Greenpeace has.

This is why I hate their methods.

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Arent those The Sea Shepard methods?

I thought Greenpeace dont storm aboard anything , they just get in the way and video record what people are doing?

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Originally Posted by Andre

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Originally Posted by Beanflicker

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Originally Posted by Greenbeanz

I don't think risking imprisonment for your beliefs can fairly be called lame, whoever you work/volunteer for. They have created awareness and for that I am grateful.

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Here's the reality, though: people, in general, are lazy. Only a small minority will dig deeper into a story.

Just about every article on this situation talks about the act and the consequences. People are told that some activists tried to storm a rig, got arrested for piracy, and are now being refused bail. Only a small blip of these articles (and a lot of times, not even a blip) actually address the actual issues and grievances Greenpeace has.

This is why I hate their methods.

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Arent those The Sea Shepard methods?

I thought Greenpeace dont storm aboard anything , they just get in the way and video record what people are doing?

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My understanding is that they boarded the rig.

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Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al

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Originally Posted by NVSemin

Guys, please, cut this crap
The West hates Russia because we do not support gay's stuff
The rest, like this Greenpeace bullshit, is simply one way of many using some "serious reason" to put more sticks in our wheels
I suggest the Greenpeace activists to fix problems in their countries first, then go bug Russia

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If that is true why are you using a British based website ?

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Why you want to know? You do not care anyway, since you just do not like me
Deep in your heart, you know, I am better.

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Originally Posted by Greenbeanz

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Originally Posted by NVSemin

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Originally Posted by Greenbeanz

Drilling for Oil in the Arctic is dangerous,expensive and creates huge risk to wildllife many of which migrate there. In ice and with little hope of a rational and quality response a spill would be disastrous. I don't think risking imprisonment for your beliefs can fairly be called lame, whoever you work/volunteer for. They have created awareness and for that I am grateful.

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What if one day you realize this was one big LIE?

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What the foundation of your beliefs ?

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That's called "Iceman vs Maverick" strategy

When certain people force fear by making others believe something or somebody is "unsafe", and then that they can provide a way out. In reality, these certain people do not care at all actually, they only want control and its benefits. Watched TOP GUN? "I do not like you, because you are dangerous". Greenpeace using the same trick against Gazprom. US government using the same trick with terrorists to force their policy world wide. Russia uses it in certain areas too. That's politics.

P.S. How can a jew be so naive, btw?

Of course I have not watched Top Gun. I am neither American or Gay. I am glad you enjoyed it though, it explains your vapid, shallow, cold and loveless outlook on life. Jews are no different to Gentiles, you can get stupid Jews and clever Gentiles just as in the reverse of our own situation.

Gay? This sweaty volleyball scene to the tune of Kenny Loggins "Playing w/the Boys" is the epitome of masculinity ;D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QiOL45lRdRs

But seriously, you've never seen this movie?

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Originally Posted by Andre

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Originally Posted by Beanflicker

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Originally Posted by Greenbeanz

I don't think risking imprisonment for your beliefs can fairly be called lame, whoever you work/volunteer for. They have created awareness and for that I am grateful.

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Here's the reality, though: people, in general, are lazy. Only a small minority will dig deeper into a story.

Just about every article on this situation talks about the act and the consequences. People are told that some activists tried to storm a rig, got arrested for piracy, and are now being refused bail. Only a small blip of these articles (and a lot of times, not even a blip) actually address the actual issues and grievances Greenpeace has.

This is why I hate their methods.

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Arent those The Sea Shepard methods?

I thought Greenpeace dont storm aboard anything , they just get in the way and video record what people are doing?

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My understanding is that they boarded the rig.

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Oh I should read more before throwing in my two bobs worth then.
Never thought Green peace had the balls for such action :o.

Hand em over to NV Semin and his righteous brother hood of Russian politicians and their just Christian legal system then. ;D

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Originally Posted by NVSemin

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Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al

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Originally Posted by NVSemin

Guys, please, cut this crap
The West hates Russia because we do not support gay's stuff
The rest, like this Greenpeace bullshit, is simply one way of many using some "serious reason" to put more sticks in our wheels
I suggest the Greenpeace activists to fix problems in their countries first, then go bug Russia

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If that is true why are you using a British based website ?

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Why you want to know? You do not care anyway, since you just do not like me
Deep in your heart, you know, I am better.

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Better than what?

Haha, it's a British based website. I'm American, can I stay or must I go. I really enjoy all the antI-American talk around here. Down with the Great Satan.

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Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al

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Originally Posted by NVSemin

Guys, please, cut this crap
The West hates Russia because we do not support gay's stuff
The rest, like this Greenpeace bullshit, is simply one way of many using some "serious reason" to put more sticks in our wheels
I suggest the Greenpeace activists to fix problems in their countries first, then go bug Russia

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If that is true why are you using a British based website ?

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Why you want to know? You do not care anyway, since you just do not like me
Deep in your heart, you know, I am better.[/QUOTE]

You are right I don't care , how ever as for you being better , well if I lost everything I own , lost my mind , believed in fairy tails , lived in a cardboard box and ate horse shit for my dinner , then and only then would I even consider you my equal.

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Originally Posted by Greenbeanz

Of course I have not watched Top Gun. I am neither American or Gay. I am glad you enjoyed it though, it explains your vapid, shallow, cold and loveless outlook on life. Jews are no different to Gentiles, you can get stupid Jews and clever Gentiles just as in the reverse of our own situation.

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Gay interpretation of top gun has certain point, but things are much easier:

During a time period A (cold war peace), when everybody do activity 1 (bars, girls, patrols), there is a guy who wants to do 2 (actual fighter pilot), which is more suitable for time period B (actual war). Then they set up a competition so sharpen the skills = top gun school. Maverick comes in and in the first day beats the crap out of everybody by breaking 2 rules of engagement. Iceman got upset, because he sees and everybody sees Maverick is better. So, Iceman comes up with the "safety game": "I do not like you, because you are dangerous. Every time you go up in the air, you are unsafe. Below hard deck does not count", while in reality he simply envies Maverick and does not want to loose his alpha male position. Since, Maverick has confidence problem at that time, it starts affecting him mentally, he breaks under pressure.

Iceman wins the top gun trophy, on the paper he is a better pilot. Since it is Hollywood, there is a happy ending: Maverick somehow did not quit and got an opportunity to show in real combat who is the better pilot. At the end of the movie, it is clear who is "right" and who is the real world top gun. Iceman acknowledges this saying: "You are still dangerous. You can be my wingman anytime "

The moral of the movie:
1. only God can judge you, no men can judge you
2. at the end of the day, people do not care, they persue their selfish goals only
3. never let others break you for who you are
4. got nothing to prove, got nobody to impress
5. no matter what, do not doubt that "I am the best, forget the rest"

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Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al

You are right I don't care , how ever as for you being better , well if I lost everything I own , lost my mind , believed in fairy tails , lived in a cardboard box and ate horse shit for my dinner , then and only then would I even consider you my equal.

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1. I am always right, because I have the supernatural wisdom
2. It is very dangerous of you to put your trust in things, which are shakable. What if someday you will: "I lost everything I own , lost my mind , believed in fairy tails , lived in a cardboard box and ate horse shit for my dinner"? Hope you won't do anything stupid about your life like suicide
3. we are equal, but I am favored by God

Eat this

whoops wrong thread. lol

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Originally Posted by Greenbeanz

We can all do something to make a difference. Don't just let them be another face on the news. It takes seconds and can be done in less time than it takes to roll one up or make a cup of tea. Click on the link below and then hit the orange TAKE ACTION NOW button and send a message to those who think they can do what they like to your planet. TELL RUSSIA - RELEASE THE GREENPEACE ACTIVISTS.




Greenpeace UK

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLeObXJjapY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtGIECJafmE

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Originally Posted by Greenbeanz

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtGIECJafmE

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Мертвец идет


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