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Certainly was genuine tension there, its cool that this has split opinion right down the middle too.
I've been following Froch since way way back and remember getting stick on here when only myself and Tam Seddon used to bang on about him being a future World Champ.
I have untold respect for Carl and love his fights and his fearless attitude but I get this feeling that Groves has wound him up to a point where he's gonna be wreckless and play right into Groves hands.
I can also see Groves foolishly having a tear up and getting sparked cold.
Its a pick em for me this one.
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Froch was just bizarre in that interview. Maybe it was all show and performance, but he seemed to be going through some kind of mental collapse. It was really weird. Groves, the cocky little undefeated simpleton, and there is Froch, the man who fights everyone, biting on his lip, in an effort to hold himself in. Either that was pantomime or else Froch knows he is getting old and can't bottle it up, or else he is genuinely angry.
All very odd.
I think he's genuinely pissed off.. we'll see fight night if it effects the result. Either way.
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Anyone got the ringside video from start to finish?
My sky dish went down in the heavy winds lately so I wasn't able to
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Froch is one of those thick cunts that think they're smart when they're clearly not. But not even he's thick enough to all of a sudden mentally unravel after spending the last few years fighting every fucker and his dog in their backyard.
They are selling PPV.
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Certainly was genuine tension there, its cool that this has split opinion right down the middle too.
I've been following Froch since way way back and remember getting stick on here when only myself and Tam Seddon used to bang on about him being a future World Champ.
I have untold respect for Carl and love his fights and his fearless attitude but I get this feeling that Groves has wound him up to a point where he's gonna be wreckless and play right into Groves hands.
I can also see Groves foolishly having a tear up and getting sparked cold.
Its a pick em for me this one.
Yup.. good analysis.. I'm gonna pick Carl 'cos my brain says he's different class and a true old school warrior. I'm worried for him in this fight tho' ..
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Froch is one of those thick cunts that think they're smart when they're clearly not. But not even he's thick enough to all of a sudden mentally unravel after spending the last few years fighting every fucker and his dog in their backyard.
They are selling PPV.
Froch hasn't been this angry since someone stole his bicycle.
What amazes me is that this sold out all 21,000 tickets in 11 minutes and this was a while back and before a lot of the mind games started by Groves, I know Froch is well supported but I dont recall even the Bute fight selling that fast?
Groves doesnt have any fanbase at all that im aware of so seems Barry Hearn was right when he said boxing in the UK is back on the rise at last.
Maybe the UK public have realised that 2 men rolling around the floor for 15 mins in a cage aint what 2 men fighting is all about and come back to where its really at - the square circle ;-)
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Froch is one of those thick cunts that think they're smart when they're clearly not. But not even he's thick enough to all of a sudden mentally unravel after spending the last few years fighting every fucker and his dog in their backyard.
They are selling PPV.
Froch hasn't been this angry since someone stole his bicycle.
What amazes me is that this sold out all 21,000 tickets in 11 minutes and this was a while back and before a lot of the mind games started by Groves, I know Froch is well supported but I dont recall even the Bute fight selling that fast?
Groves doesnt have any fanbase at all that im aware of so seems Barry Hearn was right when he said boxing in the UK is back on the rise at last.
Maybe the UK public have realised that 2 men rolling around the floor for 15 mins in a cage aint what 2 men fighting is all about and come back to where its really at - the square circle ;-)
That made me chuckle;D
He is one of those who isn't as quick witted as he thinks he is and cant fire back with anything witty. Like Haye with Fury;)
Imagine if it was Tyson Fury sat next to Groves. We wouldn't be thinking how odd it was to see someone like Froch silenced we would all be cracked up listening to the retorts back and forth;D
If they were the same weight, imagine the press conferences between Fury and Mayorga.
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Yes makes u wonder did Groves get an advantage or did he sign his death warrant.
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Froch was so mad he was about to cry.
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Imagine if groves knocks out froch.
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If ward is any better after his shoulder injury it will be even worse for froch.
I really like froch but andre is in a different league. If froch beats groves and ggg at a possible catchweight then a ward rematch would be amazing.
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This could be a really good fight, don't know how Groves will handle it more than anything but it can't hurt to talk yourself up. Froch does seem a bit rattled in that video, and he's a bit of a cunt isn't he. Doubt he'd let this affect him in any big way, but he's obviously pissed and Groves isn't an easy opponent for him anyways.
It's all on Groves to show what level he is really at and what kind of chin he has for one thing, but he has the right kind of style to beat Froch imo. He'll have to be smart and have done a lot of work, but he does have some tools Froch won't like. If Froch can cut off the ring and get to him it might be curtains early like the Bute fight though, I have no idea.
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People forget Groves is prone to cuts and he has been put down and hurt a number of times. We are not talking about someone who has the skills of Andre Ward or the chin of Kessler.
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People forget Groves is prone to cuts and he has been put down and hurt a number of times. We are not talking about someone who has the skills of Andre Ward or the chin of Kessler.
Youv got a good point.
I can see Groves giving Froch problems but on past performances against the likes of Anderson and Smith how does Groves stop Froch?
The only way I can see is to do what he did against DeGale. Fight like hes in against Mike Tyson and back peddle and skirt tye ring, much like Haye did against Valuev.
As long as Froch forces the action and starts quick again I have a hard time seeing Groves win. I could still see Groves giving Carl problems until the 7th or so and then downhill from there.
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Froch was so mad he was about to cry.
Lol I know right. I thought froch was winning the mental warfare but seems like the tides are changing.
He looks really irritated..
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I'm not picking against froch again unless he fights ward so I'm going with froch by grinding/bruising ko
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People forget Groves is prone to cuts and he has been put down and hurt a number of times. We are not talking about someone who has the skills of Andre Ward or the chin of Kessler.
Youv got a good point.
I can see Groves giving Froch problems but on past performances against the likes of Anderson and Smith how does Groves stop Froch?
The only way I can see is to do what he did against DeGale. Fight like hes in against Mike Tyson and back peddle and skirt tye ring, much like Haye did against Valuev.
As long as Froch forces the action and starts quick again I have a hard time seeing Groves win. I could still see Groves giving Carl problems until the 7th or so and then downhill from there.
smith? it was a nice punch but he wasnt trouble by it, groves win over smith was impressive
i still back groves, first time ive backed against froch
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People forget Groves is prone to cuts and he has been put down and hurt a number of times. We are not talking about someone who has the skills of Andre Ward or the chin of Kessler.
Youv got a good point.
I can see Groves giving Froch problems but on past performances against the likes of Anderson and Smith how does Groves stop Froch?
The only way I can see is to do what he did against DeGale. Fight like hes in against Mike Tyson and back peddle and skirt tye ring, much like Haye did against Valuev.
As long as Froch forces the action and starts quick again I have a hard time seeing Groves win. I could still see Groves giving Carl problems until the 7th or so and then downhill from there.
smith? it was a nice punch but he wasnt trouble by it, groves win over smith was impressive
i still back groves, first time ive backed against froch
He was troubled by it, the only reason he didnt get in any more trouble is because its Smith! A fighter who should be a middleweight and who struggles with british level fighters.
Had that been Froch it would have been similar to the Bute ending!
If and when Groves gets hurt Carl can keep pouring it on and its doubtfull Groves has the wherewithal to hurt or stop the oncoming rampage from one of the fittest and toughest fighters in the world.
Groves was even in a little bit of trouble at the end of the first round against Johnson, who he had been throwing everything at!;D
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This could be a really good fight, don't know how Groves will handle it more than anything but it can't hurt to talk yourself up. Froch does seem a bit rattled in that video, and he's a bit of a cunt isn't he. Doubt he'd let this affect him in any big way, but he's obviously pissed and Groves isn't an easy opponent for him anyways.
It's all on Groves to show what level he is really at and what kind of chin he has for one thing, but he has the right kind of style to beat Froch imo. He'll have to be smart and have done a lot of work, but he does have some tools Froch won't like. If Froch can cut off the ring and get to him it might be curtains early like the Bute fight though, I have no idea.
Now point out the tools froch has that groves won't like?
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This could be a really good fight, don't know how Groves will handle it more than anything but it can't hurt to talk yourself up. Froch does seem a bit rattled in that video, and he's a bit of a cunt isn't he. Doubt he'd let this affect him in any big way, but he's obviously pissed and Groves isn't an easy opponent for him anyways.
It's all on Groves to show what level he is really at and what kind of chin he has for one thing, but he has the right kind of style to beat Froch imo. He'll have to be smart and have done a lot of work, but he does have some tools Froch won't like. If Froch can cut off the ring and get to him it might be curtains early like the Bute fight though, I have no idea.
Now point out the tools froch has that groves won't like?
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This could be a really good fight, don't know how Groves will handle it more than anything but it can't hurt to talk yourself up. Froch does seem a bit rattled in that video, and he's a bit of a cunt isn't he. Doubt he'd let this affect him in any big way, but he's obviously pissed and Groves isn't an easy opponent for him anyways.
It's all on Groves to show what level he is really at and what kind of chin he has for one thing, but he has the right kind of style to beat Froch imo. He'll have to be smart and have done a lot of work, but he does have some tools Froch won't like. If Froch can cut off the ring and get to him it might be curtains early like the Bute fight though, I have no idea.
Now point out the tools froch has that groves won't like?
do you want him to point to the tools that froch has that groves wont like?
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People forget Groves is prone to cuts and he has been put down and hurt a number of times. We are not talking about someone who has the skills of Andre Ward or the chin of Kessler.
Youv got a good point.
I can see Groves giving Froch problems but on past performances against the likes of Anderson and Smith how does Groves stop Froch?
The only way I can see is to do what he did against DeGale. Fight like hes in against Mike Tyson and back peddle and skirt tye ring, much like Haye did against Valuev.
As long as Froch forces the action and starts quick again I have a hard time seeing Groves win. I could still see Groves giving Carl problems until the 7th or so and then downhill from there.
smith? it was a nice punch but he wasnt trouble by it, groves win over smith was impressive
i still back groves, first time ive backed against froch
He was troubled by it, the only reason he didnt get in any more trouble is because its Smith! A fighter who should be a middleweight and who struggles with british level fighters.
Had that been Froch it would have been similar to the Bute ending!
If and when Groves gets hurt Carl can keep pouring it on and its doubtfull Groves has the wherewithal to hurt or stop the oncoming rampage from one of the fittest and toughest fighters in the world.
Groves was even in a little bit of trouble at the end of the first round against Johnson, who he had been throwing everything at!;D
i dont agree, i dont think he was, he stepped back, but there was no sign he was shaken
groves win over johnson was much more impressive than froches, i accept that johnson had a lot more ambition against froch
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You people will buy into anything, won't you?! ;)
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Not quite as bad as the Haye-Audley build up... But still!
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This could be a really good fight, don't know how Groves will handle it more than anything but it can't hurt to talk yourself up. Froch does seem a bit rattled in that video, and he's a bit of a cunt isn't he. Doubt he'd let this affect him in any big way, but he's obviously pissed and Groves isn't an easy opponent for him anyways.
It's all on Groves to show what level he is really at and what kind of chin he has for one thing, but he has the right kind of style to beat Froch imo. He'll have to be smart and have done a lot of work, but he does have some tools Froch won't like. If Froch can cut off the ring and get to him it might be curtains early like the Bute fight though, I have no idea.
Now point out the tools froch has that groves won't like?
Strength, resliance, ambition, stamina and experience.
Also, the nagging doubt in the back of his mind pr rather the knowledge that Froch can catch him and is very capable of hurting him. Add those atteibutes above to someone who is capable of hurting you and no matter what Groves says and how fucking stupid he makes Froch look in interviews, make no mistake that George knows hes in deep here.
Even against Ward, he wouldnt have that fear of getting hurt. Faced with power he might just curl up in to his shell, run, freeze anything. Just look at what happened to Cleverly who showed no real fear leading up to Kovalev. I was very surprised at how easy Cleverly made it for Kovalev and that is down to fear of facing someone who is genuinely capable of taking your head off.
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Groves is a young guy, he could have easily waited around for a winnable title shot to come up. Instead he asked for and got the Froch fight. Considering he's sparred him and admits to being decked, if he goes in and bottles it that would be very surprising. Why seek the fight in the first place? It's not like he's getting a fortune for it.
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Master
People forget Groves is prone to cuts and he has been put down and hurt a number of times. We are not talking about someone who has the skills of Andre Ward or the chin of Kessler.
Youv got a good point.
I can see Groves giving Froch problems but on past performances against the likes of Anderson and Smith how does Groves stop Froch?
The only way I can see is to do what he did against DeGale. Fight like hes in against Mike Tyson and back peddle and skirt tye ring, much like Haye did against Valuev.
As long as Froch forces the action and starts quick again I have a hard time seeing Groves win. I could still see Groves giving Carl problems until the 7th or so and then downhill from there.
smith? it was a nice punch but he wasnt trouble by it, groves win over smith was impressive
i still back groves, first time ive backed against froch
He was troubled by it, the only reason he didnt get in any more trouble is because its Smith! A fighter who should be a middleweight and who struggles with british level fighters.
Had that been Froch it would have been similar to the Bute ending!
If and when Groves gets hurt Carl can keep pouring it on and its doubtfull Groves has the wherewithal to hurt or stop the oncoming rampage from one of the fittest and toughest fighters in the world.
Groves was even in a little bit of trouble at the end of the first round against Johnson, who he had been throwing everything at!;D
i dont agree, i dont think he was, he stepped back, but there was no sign he was shaken
groves win over johnson was much more impressive than froches,
i accept that johnson had a lot more ambition against froch
I should hope so.
Froch fought him coming off stopping Green and Mack and getting robbed against Cloud and pushing Dawson.
Groves fougt him after Forch beat him, then Bute beat him then some fringe contender. He was on a run of 3 straight losses and looked absolutely useless against Bute.
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ross
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erics44
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ross
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Master
People forget Groves is prone to cuts and he has been put down and hurt a number of times. We are not talking about someone who has the skills of Andre Ward or the chin of Kessler.
Youv got a good point.
I can see Groves giving Froch problems but on past performances against the likes of Anderson and Smith how does Groves stop Froch?
The only way I can see is to do what he did against DeGale. Fight like hes in against Mike Tyson and back peddle and skirt tye ring, much like Haye did against Valuev.
As long as Froch forces the action and starts quick again I have a hard time seeing Groves win. I could still see Groves giving Carl problems until the 7th or so and then downhill from there.
smith? it was a nice punch but he wasnt trouble by it, groves win over smith was impressive
i still back groves, first time ive backed against froch
He was troubled by it, the only reason he didnt get in any more trouble is because its Smith! A fighter who should be a middleweight and who struggles with british level fighters.
Had that been Froch it would have been similar to the Bute ending!
If and when Groves gets hurt Carl can keep pouring it on and its doubtfull Groves has the wherewithal to hurt or stop the oncoming rampage from one of the fittest and toughest fighters in the world.
Groves was even in a little bit of trouble at the end of the first round against Johnson, who he had been throwing everything at!;D
i dont agree, i dont think he was, he stepped back, but there was no sign he was shaken
groves win over johnson was much more impressive than froches,
i accept that johnson had a lot more ambition against froch
I should hope so.
Froch fought him coming off stopping Green and Mack and getting robbed against Cloud and pushing Dawson.
Groves fougt him after Forch beat him, then Bute beat him then some fringe contender. He was on a run of 3 straight losses and looked absolutely useless against Bute.
so whats your point?
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I think the fact most think Froch wins easy , it shows real bottle by groves for taking this fight.
I am not bothered who wins , just hope its a good scrap.
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ross
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erics44
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ross
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Master
People forget Groves is prone to cuts and he has been put down and hurt a number of times. We are not talking about someone who has the skills of Andre Ward or the chin of Kessler.
Youv got a good point.
I can see Groves giving Froch problems but on past performances against the likes of Anderson and Smith how does Groves stop Froch?
The only way I can see is to do what he did against DeGale. Fight like hes in against Mike Tyson and back peddle and skirt tye ring, much like Haye did against Valuev.
As long as Froch forces the action and starts quick again I have a hard time seeing Groves win. I could still see Groves giving Carl problems until the 7th or so and then downhill from there.
smith? it was a nice punch but he wasnt trouble by it, groves win over smith was impressive
i still back groves, first time ive backed against froch
He was troubled by it, the only reason he didnt get in any more trouble is because its Smith! A fighter who should be a middleweight and who struggles with british level fighters.
Had that been Froch it would have been similar to the Bute ending!
If and when Groves gets hurt Carl can keep pouring it on and its doubtfull Groves has the wherewithal to hurt or stop the oncoming rampage from one of the fittest and toughest fighters in the world.
Groves was even in a little bit of trouble at the end of the first round against Johnson, who he had been throwing everything at!;D
i dont agree, i dont think he was, he stepped back, but there was no sign he was shaken
groves win over johnson was much more impressive than froches,
i accept that johnson had a lot more ambition against froch
I should hope so.
Froch fought him coming off stopping Green and Mack and getting robbed against Cloud and pushing Dawson.
Groves fougt him after Forch beat him, then Bute beat him then some fringe contender. He was on a run of 3 straight losses and looked absolutely useless against Bute.
so whats your point?
How can a win over someone on a run of 3 consecutive losses be considered more impressive than a win over him when he was coming off one of his best recent performances and run of performances.
My obvious point being, in no way at all was Groves win over Johnson any more impressive than Frochs.
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erics44
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ross
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erics44
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ross
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Master
People forget Groves is prone to cuts and he has been put down and hurt a number of times. We are not talking about someone who has the skills of Andre Ward or the chin of Kessler.
Youv got a good point.
I can see Groves giving Froch problems but on past performances against the likes of Anderson and Smith how does Groves stop Froch?
The only way I can see is to do what he did against DeGale. Fight like hes in against Mike Tyson and back peddle and skirt tye ring, much like Haye did against Valuev.
As long as Froch forces the action and starts quick again I have a hard time seeing Groves win. I could still see Groves giving Carl problems until the 7th or so and then downhill from there.
smith? it was a nice punch but he wasnt trouble by it, groves win over smith was impressive
i still back groves, first time ive backed against froch
He was troubled by it, the only reason he didnt get in any more trouble is because its Smith! A fighter who should be a middleweight and who struggles with british level fighters.
Had that been Froch it would have been similar to the Bute ending!
If and when Groves gets hurt Carl can keep pouring it on and its doubtfull Groves has the wherewithal to hurt or stop the oncoming rampage from one of the fittest and toughest fighters in the world.
Groves was even in a little bit of trouble at the end of the first round against Johnson, who he had been throwing everything at!;D
i dont agree, i dont think he was, he stepped back, but there was no sign he was shaken
groves win over johnson was much more impressive than froches,
i accept that johnson had a lot more ambition against froch
I should hope so.
Froch fought him coming off stopping Green and Mack and getting robbed against Cloud and pushing Dawson.
Groves fougt him after Forch beat him, then Bute beat him then some fringe contender. He was on a run of 3 straight losses and looked absolutely useless against Bute.
so whats your point?
How can a win over someone on a run of 3 consecutive losses be considered more impressive than a win over him when he was coming off one of his best recent performances and run of performances.
My obvious point being, in no way at all was Groves win over Johnson any more impressive than Frochs.
course it was, he battered him every round
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erics44
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ross
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erics44
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ross
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Master
People forget Groves is prone to cuts and he has been put down and hurt a number of times. We are not talking about someone who has the skills of Andre Ward or the chin of Kessler.
Youv got a good point.
I can see Groves giving Froch problems but on past performances against the likes of Anderson and Smith how does Groves stop Froch?
The only way I can see is to do what he did against DeGale. Fight like hes in against Mike Tyson and back peddle and skirt tye ring, much like Haye did against Valuev.
As long as Froch forces the action and starts quick again I have a hard time seeing Groves win. I could still see Groves giving Carl problems until the 7th or so and then downhill from there.
smith? it was a nice punch but he wasnt trouble by it, groves win over smith was impressive
i still back groves, first time ive backed against froch
He was troubled by it, the only reason he didnt get in any more trouble is because its Smith! A fighter who should be a middleweight and who struggles with british level fighters.
Had that been Froch it would have been similar to the Bute ending!
If and when Groves gets hurt Carl can keep pouring it on and its doubtfull Groves has the wherewithal to hurt or stop the oncoming rampage from one of the fittest and toughest fighters in the world.
Groves was even in a little bit of trouble at the end of the first round against Johnson, who he had been throwing everything at!;D
i dont agree, i dont think he was, he stepped back, but there was no sign he was shaken
groves win over johnson was much more impressive than froches,
i accept that johnson had a lot more ambition against froch
I should hope so.
Froch fought him coming off stopping Green and Mack and getting robbed against Cloud and pushing Dawson.
Groves fougt him after Forch beat him, then Bute beat him then some fringe contender. He was on a run of 3 straight losses and looked absolutely useless against Bute.
so whats your point?
How can a win over someone on a run of 3 consecutive losses be considered more impressive than a win over him when he was coming off one of his best recent performances and run of performances.
My obvious point being, in no way at all was Groves win over Johnson any more impressive than Frochs.
course it was, he battered him every round
Who did he batter every round?
Someone who had officially anounced his retirement after 3 consecutive losses and his last before being tempted out of retirement being a loss to a journeyman;D Wow! Very impressive, in fact so much so he's now the overwhelming favourite against Froch.....
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This could turn out to being a very interesting fight. Groves has the ability to use his legs and move away from Froch's vaunted power, but so did Bute, and we saw how that went. Remember that Groves allegedly gave Andre Dirrell the business in sparring and beat DeGale. I doubt Groves will be intimidated. I also doubt Froch will be intimidated, which is why it's somewhat intriguing.
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Do you know what.. we're all talking Groves up. He hash't proved anything so far but the ability to shade Degale in a fight. Could be simple.. just an easy defence for Froch, couldn't it?
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People forget Groves is prone to cuts and he has been put down and hurt a number of times. We are not talking about someone who has the skills of Andre Ward or the chin of Kessler.
Youv got a good point.
I can see Groves giving Froch problems but on past performances against the likes of Anderson and Smith how does Groves stop Froch?
The only way I can see is to do what he did against DeGale. Fight like hes in against Mike Tyson and back peddle and skirt tye ring, much like Haye did against Valuev.
As long as Froch forces the action and starts quick again I have a hard time seeing Groves win. I could still see Groves giving Carl problems until the 7th or so and then downhill from there.
smith? it was a nice punch but he wasnt trouble by it, groves win over smith was impressive
i still back groves, first time ive backed against froch
He was troubled by it, the only reason he didnt get in any more trouble is because its Smith! A fighter who should be a middleweight and who struggles with british level fighters.
Had that been Froch it would have been similar to the Bute ending!
If and when Groves gets hurt Carl can keep pouring it on and its doubtfull Groves has the wherewithal to hurt or stop the oncoming rampage from one of the fittest and toughest fighters in the world.
Groves was even in a little bit of trouble at the end of the first round against Johnson, who he had been throwing everything at!;D
i dont agree, i dont think he was, he stepped back, but there was no sign he was shaken
groves win over johnson was much more impressive than froches,
i accept that johnson had a lot more ambition against froch
I should hope so.
Froch fought him coming off stopping Green and Mack and getting robbed against Cloud and pushing Dawson.
Groves fougt him after Forch beat him, then Bute beat him then some fringe contender. He was on a run of 3 straight losses and looked absolutely useless against Bute.
so whats your point?
How can a win over someone on a run of 3 consecutive losses be considered more impressive than a win over him when he was coming off one of his best recent performances and run of performances.
My obvious point being, in no way at all was Groves win over Johnson any more impressive than Frochs.
course it was, he battered him every round
Who did he batter every round?
Someone who had officially anounced his retirement after 3 consecutive losses and his last before being tempted out of retirement being a loss to a journeyman;D Wow! Very impressive, in fact so much so he's now the overwhelming favourite against Froch.....
no one said he was the favourite coz of the Johnson win
in fact no one has said he is the favourite
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Re: Froch - Groves to meet on Sky Ringside special
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Morgan-B-Howell
Do you know what.. we're all talking Groves up. He hash't proved anything so far but the ability to shade Degale in a fight. Could be simple.. just an easy defence for Froch, couldn't it?
this is what everyone is saying likes
could be exactly what means it isnt
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Originally Posted by
Morgan-B-Howell
Do you know what.. we're all talking Groves up. He hash't proved anything so far but the ability to shade Degale in a fight. Could be simple.. just an easy defence for Froch, couldn't it?
It will be an easy defence , Groves isn't elite, I could name a lot of fighters who were better than Groves and Froch beat them.
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Re: Froch - Groves to meet on Sky Ringside special
Think Froch has either taken a few shots too many or he is just plain shit at maths.
In this article he seems to think Groves will be his 14th world title fight;D
Carl Froch: I Will Knock Glass Jaw Groves Unconscious! - Boxing News
