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It is a bit weird that gay marriage is such a hot topic. There can't be that many gays out there and yet they seem to control the entire media agenda and be able to make everyone think about gayness. It's a bit like how we are only reminded about the Jewish genocide or the evils of Putin etc. A whole lot of agenda driven discourse going on. Gay marriage is just not the sort of thing an ordinary person thinks about every day. I am for it, but NV kind of has a point with the social conditioning modus operandi.
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The only religion of GAYs is money,
their god is Satan,
their LAW is in fact lawlissness = anything goes
they are hyppocrites full of pride... gay pride
but, truth to be said, most of gays are people deeply hurt inside because of abuse or such. This
is why they got exposed to evil spirits and could not resist them. Because, homosexuality is
100% demonic. Now with literally fucked up brains these demon possessed people do the works of evil.
We should pray for their souls to be delivered from chains of Satan, pray, because there is only thing one can do for the.... The more
you hurt them, the stronger they become... Do not resist evil Jesus said, because all evil is under Jesus's foot.
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NVSemin
The only religion of GAYs is money,
their god is Satan,
their LAW is in fact lawlissness = anything goes
they are hyppocrites full of pride... gay pride
but, truth to be said, most of gays are people deeply hurt inside because of abuse or such. This
is why they got exposed to evil spirits and could not resist them. Because, homosexuality is
100% demonic. Now with literally fucked up brains these demon possessed people do the works of evil.
We should pray for their souls to be delivered from chains of Satan, pray, because there is only thing one can do for the.... The more
you hurt them, the stronger they become... Do not resist evil Jesus said, because all evil is under Jesus's foot.
The LGBT community has a fourty percent higher occurrence of suicide than us vagina chasers.
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walrus
understood, but doesn't a private establishment have the right to refuse service to a potential customer period.
No private establishment has the right to discriminate. They must obey the law of the land.
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Beanflicker
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walrus
understood, but doesn't a private establishment have the right to refuse service to a potential customer period.
No private establishment has the right to discriminate. They must obey the law of the land.
I realize that. I am a landlord. I have to follow the law but if I don't like them I wouldn't rent to them and I'd either not disclose a reason or make up a legal one. By the way, my current tenants are African American, I'm just saying there are ways around everything.
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Gandalf
It is a bit weird that gay marriage is such a hot topic. There can't be that many gays out there and yet they seem to control the entire media agenda and be able to make everyone think about gayness. It's a bit like how we are only reminded about the Jewish genocide or the evils of Putin etc. A whole lot of agenda driven discourse going on. Gay marriage is just not the sort of thing an ordinary person thinks about every day. I am for it, but NV kind of has a point with the social conditioning modus operandi.
Yeah it's all a conspiracy Miles. They literally make everyone think about gayness :vd: TO be honest you mention the Jewish genocide much more than I do so maybe it's you that is the schill? with a double bluff, secretly working for Mossad or something :-\:-X;D
NV does not have a point at all. Social conditioning ? To what aim ? to stop people beating the shit out of them and calling them stupid names ? oooh bloody dangerous people they should just shut the fuck up and hide away I suppose. Next you will be telling us that they are all potential pedos trying to get us all to accept them going after our kids. Jesus Christ you couldn't make it up.
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walrus
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NVSemin
The only religion of GAYs is money,
their god is Satan,
their LAW is in fact lawlissness = anything goes
they are hyppocrites full of pride... gay pride
but, truth to be said, most of gays are people deeply hurt inside because of abuse or such. This
is why they got exposed to evil spirits and could not resist them. Because, homosexuality is
100% demonic. Now with literally fucked up brains these demon possessed people do the works of evil.
We should pray for their souls to be delivered from chains of Satan, pray, because there is only thing one can do for the.... The more
you hurt them, the stronger they become... Do not resist evil Jesus said, because all evil is under Jesus's foot.
The LGBT community has a fourty percent higher occurrence of suicide than us vagina chasers.
And as gays get equal rights and become accepted by all the various groups in society that suicide rate will eventually drop down to the same level as the rest of us.
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Greenbeanz
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Gandalf
It is a bit weird that gay marriage is such a hot topic. There can't be that many gays out there and yet they seem to control the entire media agenda and be able to make everyone think about gayness. It's a bit like how we are only reminded about the Jewish genocide or the evils of Putin etc. A whole lot of agenda driven discourse going on. Gay marriage is just not the sort of thing an ordinary person thinks about every day. I am for it, but NV kind of has a point with the social conditioning modus operandi.
Yeah it's all a conspiracy Miles. They literally make everyone think about gayness :vd: TO be honest you mention the Jewish genocide much more than I do so maybe it's you that is the schill? with a double bluff, secretly working for Mossad or something :-\:-X;D
NV does not have a point at all. Social conditioning ? To what aim ? to stop people beating the shit out of them and calling them stupid names ? oooh bloody dangerous people they should just shut the fuck up and hide away I suppose. Next you will be telling us that they are all potential pedos trying to get us all to accept them going after our kids. Jesus Christ you couldn't make it up.
Don't you find it a bit weird that gay marriage is such a big media issue or why it is even on the agenda? Far more populist things seldom get discussed on the news. I do always try to look at why the media does what it does as it clearly doesn't operate in a vacuum. It is interesting how they try to make such a big issue out of racial tension, gay marriage and terrorism. They use these types of things with an obvious agenda behind them. I don't think it is conspiracy to point out the power mainstream has to condition, scare and divide busy people. It is glaring how financial terrorism is almost ignored and yet gay marriage, a topic that is bound to divide a relatively conservative society, is shouted from the rooftops. I don't know what media you watch, but I do flick the channels and stare with mouth agape at the orangy hues and bizarre utterances I hear from domestic US CNN. I am for gay marriage, but I don't think for a minute it is happening now for positive reasons.
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I do find it strange that gayness has become such a mainstream issue when it includes such a small percentage of the population. I don't think they should be discriminated against because of there sexual preference but I also don't think the definition of marriage should have been changed for what I believe is at or around two percent of the population. I don't think gayness should be outlawed or the government should pass laws that come into the bedroom but it does seem a bit out of proportion to me. Oddly, the libertarian party has been kicked out of several gay pride marches in the US. Prejudice and intolerance can be commical at times
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Dont think it has anything to do with the bed room when we know the act has no effects on anyone other than the participants. Some people are in love and dont have sex both in the straight community and in the gay community would they be ok? Or would you choose to tell them also who they can and cant love and who they cant share a legal commitment with? If its a religious stance only and you are following the letter of the book, start stoning everyone cause it tells you to do that too for many other reasons not just this one.
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Andre
Dont think it has anything to do with the bed room when we know the act has no effects on anyone other than the participants. Some people are in love and dont have sex both in the straight community and in the gay community would they be ok? Or would you choose to tell them also who they can and cant love and who they cant share a legal commitment with? If its a religious stance only and you are following the letter of the book, start stoning everyone cause it tells you to do that too for many other reasons not just this one.
Yes it does Andre, but do you recall that Christ put a stop to that.
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walrus
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Andre
Dont think it has anything to do with the bed room when we know the act has no effects on anyone other than the participants. Some people are in love and dont have sex both in the straight community and in the gay community would they be ok? Or would you choose to tell them also who they can and cant love and who they cant share a legal commitment with? If its a religious stance only and you are following the letter of the book, start stoning everyone cause it tells you to do that too for many other reasons not just this one.
Yes it does Andre, but do you recall that Christ put a stop to that.
Why? Had God got it wrong for a couple thousand years ? Was it justifiable back then?
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Greenbeanz
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walrus
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Andre
Dont think it has anything to do with the bed room when we know the act has no effects on anyone other than the participants. Some people are in love and dont have sex both in the straight community and in the gay community would they be ok? Or would you choose to tell them also who they can and cant love and who they cant share a legal commitment with? If its a religious stance only and you are following the letter of the book, start stoning everyone cause it tells you to do that too for many other reasons not just this one.
Yes it does Andre, but do you recall that Christ put a stop to that.
Why? Had God got it wrong for a couple thousand years ? Was it justifiable back then?
No not really Beanz. It's just a theological thing. Christ payed for our sins. That of course is the nutshell. Prior to Christ the Israelites were gods arm of justice but I'm sure you are not looking for a theological discussion from me.
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walrus
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Greenbeanz
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walrus
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Andre
Dont think it has anything to do with the bed room when we know the act has no effects on anyone other than the participants. Some people are in love and dont have sex both in the straight community and in the gay community would they be ok? Or would you choose to tell them also who they can and cant love and who they cant share a legal commitment with? If its a religious stance only and you are following the letter of the book, start stoning everyone cause it tells you to do that too for many other reasons not just this one.
Yes it does Andre, but do you recall that Christ put a stop to that.
Why? Had God got it wrong for a couple thousand years ? Was it justifiable back then?
No not really Beanz. It's just a theological thing. Christ payed for our sins. That of course is the nutshell. Prior to Christ the Israelites were gods arm of justice but I'm sure you are not looking for a theological discussion from me.
The idea of Christ paying for everyone's sins was the start of a slippery slope for Christianity. It soon led to all kinds of heinous things being done in his name. Not such a big change from the misguided Hebrews who made Judaism their own idol.
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Interesting take on things. Is that the final say on the matter or do other thoughts hold any merit.
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walrus
Interesting take on things. Is that the final say on the matter or do other thoughts hold any merit.
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This is how a forum works. People post their opinions, reflections and points of view. The merits of other thoughts are entirely subjective and variable dependent on content. To post an alternative point of view is not the same as dismissing all merit in your own. There is never a final say. This is not the Bible it's an online thread. It will evolve over time.
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Greenbeanz
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walrus
Interesting take on things. Is that the final say on the matter or do other thoughts hold any merit.
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This is how a forum works. People post their opinions, reflections and points of view. The merits of other thoughts are entirely subjective and variable dependent on content. To post an alternative point of view is not the same as dismissing all merit in your own. There is never a final say. This is not the Bible it's an online thread. It will evolve over time.
Oh, ok, thanks beanz, I appreciate it:vd:
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walrus
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Greenbeanz
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walrus
Interesting take on things. Is that the final say on the matter or do other thoughts hold any merit.
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This is how a forum works. People post their opinions, reflections and points of view. The merits of other thoughts are entirely subjective and variable dependent on content. To post an alternative point of view is not the same as dismissing all merit in your own. There is never a final say. This is not the Bible it's an online thread. It will evolve over time.
Oh, ok, thanks beanz, I appreciate it:vd:
You can get a cold flannel or a stick on pain relieving plaster for that in this day and age.
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Walrus, will you marry me?
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Greenbeanz
The idea of Christ paying for everyone's sins was the start of a slippery slope for Christianity.
Men are spiritually bunkrupt to pay for their sins, you cannot drag yourself from a swamp my pull your own hairs with your hand.
This is why God intervened and provided HIS OWN righteousness.
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Haha Nv semin just neg repped me for supporting gays! if I did it back he would disappear off the forum for ever. :cool:
So Mr Semin do you also think it is right to stone people as well, because that is in the same book (old testament) that old rule is out of there as well.
If youre going to follow the rules and judge by the old law then do the whole lot. Dont pick and choose like a fool, either stand by your judgments and where they stem from or dont judge at all. Book one or book two your choice.
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Andre
Haha Nv semin just neg repped me for supporting gays! if I did it back he would disappear off the forum for ever. :cool:
So Mr Semin do you also think it is right to stone people as well, because that is in the same book (old testament) that old rule is out of there as well.
If youre going to follow the rules and judge by the old law then do the whole lot. Dont pick and choose like a fool, either stand by your judgments and where they stem from or dont judge at all. Book one or book two your choice.
Jesus has REDEEMED us from the CURSE of the LAW. He paid much more than we owned and the judgement for me personally is FULLFILLED. It does not matter from now on what I would or would not do: my status with God is unchagable. I am in the PRISON of RIGHTEOUSNESS. Haleluja! This is what it means "to be saved". We are saved from the law, because now no one (Satan) can accuse us or find any reason to accuse us!
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NVSemin
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Greenbeanz
The idea of Christ paying for everyone's sins was the start of a slippery slope for Christianity.
Men are spiritually bunkrupt to pay for their sins, you cannot drag yourself from a swamp my pull your own hairs with your hand.
This is why God intervened and provided HIS OWN righteousness.
At my advanced and decrepid age of 43 I find myself pulling hairs out of myself more and more. Big long white ones, stiff as a brush bristle from my nose, ears, eyebrows etc. Never needed to ask Jeebus or anyone else for help.
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Makes your eyes water though.
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For me personally, I'm happy that my friends can get married and get the same rights as the rest of us.
Ministers do not have to marry anyone they don't want to, even under current law.
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NVSemin
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Andre
Haha Nv semin just neg repped me for supporting gays! if I did it back he would disappear off the forum for ever. :cool:
So Mr Semin do you also think it is right to stone people as well, because that is in the same book (old testament) that old rule is out of there as well.
If youre going to follow the rules and judge by the old law then do the whole lot. Dont pick and choose like a fool, either stand by your judgments and where they stem from or dont judge at all. Book one or book two your choice.
Jesus has REDEEMED us from the CURSE of the LAW. He paid much more than we owned and the judgement for me personally is FULLFILLED. It does not matter from now on what I would or would not do: my status with God is unchagable. I am in the PRISON of RIGHTEOUSNESS. Haleluja! This is what it means "to be saved". We are saved from the law, because now no one (Satan) can accuse us or find any reason to accuse us!
NV, darling, I bet if I had a look at your hard drive and browsing history there'd be plenty of anal sex on there. I bet you've polished your Russian sausage more than a few times over anal goings on on the internet.
All this Christian blustering isn't fooling anybody you know. My sportsbook now has you the red hot favourite to win the 2016 Forum Gay Of The Year competition.
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Have you ever eaten shellfish NV baby or worn any clothing made of mixed fibres?
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Greenbeanz
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NVSemin
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Greenbeanz
The idea of Christ paying for everyone's sins was the start of a slippery slope for Christianity.
Men are spiritually bunkrupt to pay for their sins, you cannot drag yourself from a swamp my pull your own hairs with your hand.
This is why God intervened and provided HIS OWN righteousness.
At my advanced and decrepid age of 43 I find myself pulling hairs out of myself more and more. Big long white ones, stiff as a brush bristle from my nose, ears, eyebrows etc. Never needed to ask Jeebus or anyone else for help.
;D Casual grey has succumbed to the white crooked fried ones that seem to pop up overnight. No loving god would ever let a man walk around for a full day only to get home and see what amounts to fishing line jutting out of your ear and eyebrow, unless he's all outta lighting and reduced to death by 1001 plucks :-X
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NVSemin
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Andre
Haha Nv semin just neg repped me for supporting gays! if I did it back he would disappear off the forum for ever. :cool:
So Mr Semin do you also think it is right to stone people as well, because that is in the same book (old testament) that old rule is out of there as well.
If youre going to follow the rules and judge by the old law then do the whole lot. Dont pick and choose like a fool, either stand by your judgments and where they stem from or dont judge at all. Book one or book two your choice.
Jesus has REDEEMED us from the CURSE of the LAW. He paid much more than we owned and the judgement for me personally is FULLFILLED. It does not matter from now on what I would or would not do: my status with God is unchagable. I am in the PRISON of RIGHTEOUSNESS. Haleluja! This is what it means "to be saved". We are saved from the law, because now no one (Satan) can accuse us or find any reason to accuse us!
That is exactly why I am wondering why you continue to judge others?
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Andre
That is exactly why I am wondering why you continue to judge others?
Define judging, I think it is subjective
even if we define precisely judging in form of some law or rule to follow - I give up, I cannot do it.
Blame Jesus for all crap I did, do and will do
If you think deeper, all your attempts of "wondering" are nothing else by the desire to put me under the law. And when people are trying
to put me under the law or "bewitch" me, you know what I tell them? DO NOT F>CK WITH RUSSIANs!
P.S. Jesus will return as a JUDGE and together with him we will judge angels and satan followers:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNtph1jWSOg
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NVSemin
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Andre
That is exactly why I am wondering why you continue to judge others?
Define judging, I think it is subjective
even if we define precisely judging in form of some law or rule to follow - I give up, I cannot do it.
Blame Jesus for all crap I did, do and will do
If you think deeper, all your attempts of "wondering" are nothing else by the desire to put me under the law. And when people are trying
to put me under the law or "bewitch" me, you know what I tell them? DO NOT F>CK WITH RUSSIANs!
P.S. Jesus will return as a JUDGE and together with him we will judge angels and satan followers:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNtph1jWSOg
That video is also extreme and insane.
You are still judging others 'Gays' from the old book the same book the new book should of deleted for you. The New testament says do not judge. So do what it says and stop judging others.
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No, it does not say do not judge as a final commandement. No, Jesus was talking to people explaining why it was impossible to keep the law, because God demands extreme.
NT is about our righteousness APART from works. I owe gays nothing, I owe Satan nothing, my debt was to God and now it is paid in FULL. Amen!
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I'm not judging anyone, that's not up to me. I was saying the US supreme court stepped its bounds with its ruling.
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walrus
I'm not judging anyone, that's not up to me. I was saying the US supreme court stepped its bounds with its ruling.
God does not judge you ANYMORE when you pronounce words that are judgemental to others, so relax
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NVSemin
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walrus
I'm not judging anyone, that's not up to me. I was saying the US supreme court stepped its bounds with its ruling.
God does not judge you ANYMORE when you pronounce words that are judgemental to others, so relax
Oh right ..:rolleyes:
Luke 6:37 Judge not, and you shall not be judged: condemn not, and you shall not be condemned: forgive, and you shall be forgiven:
New Testament: King James Version
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Andre
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NVSemin
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walrus
I'm not judging anyone, that's not up to me. I was saying the US supreme court stepped its bounds with its ruling.
God does not judge you ANYMORE when you pronounce words that are judgemental to others, so relax
Oh right ..:rolleyes:
Luke 6:37 Judge not, and you shall not be judged: condemn not, and you shall not be condemned: forgive, and you shall be forgiven:
New Testament: King James Version
Stop taking stuff out of context. Jesus died and fillfilled the law. It is done. All failures to keep the law from my side are punished in Jesus body!
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You need to go by the New testament now you are saved, not the old. You are judging the gays from the old testaments writings. Those days are past those laws are no more.
The New testament is (the word of God)that saved you,so stick with what Luke has written there and cease your judgments, In Jesus name!
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Andre
You need to go by the New testament now you are saved, not the old. You are judging the gays from the old testaments writings. Those days are past those laws are no more.
The New testament is (the word of God)that saved you,so stick with what Luke has written there and cease your judgments, In Jesus name!
You cannot "go by" the NT, Jesus is the NT, New Covenant, that was the whole point of it.
God "fired" or "disqualified" the best of the best, the Top Gun, to qualify us!
Why is it so hard for you to understand?
