Re: Is the world better off without Saddam, George?
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Kirkland Laing
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walrus
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SlimTrae
I agree, Arafat made a lot of mIstakes. And as walrus stated Obama has saId some things that didn't add up.
Slim, regarding your previous post about Bloomberg and the Iraq oil production I still haven't researched it but if memory serves me correct the oil is in the Kurdish stronghold areas which were rather well put together when Saddam wasn't bombing them. Is that part of the story to your knowledge, I forget where that post was @
SlimTrae
About 20% of the oil is in Kurdish areas but these fiels are mostly used up now and won't produce much in the future. Almost all Iraq's oil is in the Shiite south and this oil has hardly been developed at all. It's the biggest undeveloped oil region on the planet by a country mile, there's a hundred and fifty trillion dollars under the ground there. This used to be owned by Saddam's Sunnis and now the Shiites(and Shiite Iran) control it and the Sunnis are eating dust. Can you see why they're so pissed off now?
Well slim posted a link about Bloomberg reporting rapid increase in current Iraqui oil production levels. Not so much about untapped stuff.
That's how they can rapidly increase production levels! Because they have vast reserves of untapped oil!
There's no other country in the world that has anything like Iraq's potential. It's very high qiuality low sulphur oil and it's literally just under the ground. In 2003 loads of Iraqis digging air raid shelters on their land before we invaded did a Jethro Clampett and struck oil on their land there's so much, but there are supergiant fields that western companies mapped out decades ago that have never been drilled. Hundreds of trillions of dollars worth. By comparison the only country in the world with more oil, Saudi, has pumped more than 50% of its oil and production has been declining for years even though they're pumping as much as they can.
Meanwhile in the rest of the world energy companies are reduced to drilling in over 10 000 feet of seawater to tap relatively tiny amounts of oil. That stuff costs more than the current price of oil just to get it out of the ground so it's uneconomic. Iraqi oil costs a dollar a barrel to produce.
Which explains this:
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Jed......Jed Clampett
Re: Is the world better off without Saddam, George?
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walrus
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Originally Posted by
Kirkland Laing
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Originally Posted by
walrus
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Originally Posted by
SlimTrae
I agree, Arafat made a lot of mIstakes. And as walrus stated Obama has saId some things that didn't add up.
Slim, regarding your previous post about Bloomberg and the Iraq oil production I still haven't researched it but if memory serves me correct the oil is in the Kurdish stronghold areas which were rather well put together when Saddam wasn't bombing them. Is that part of the story to your knowledge, I forget where that post was @
SlimTrae
About 20% of the oil is in Kurdish areas but these fiels are mostly used up now and won't produce much in the future. Almost all Iraq's oil is in the Shiite south and this oil has hardly been developed at all. It's the biggest undeveloped oil region on the planet by a country mile, there's a hundred and fifty trillion dollars under the ground there. This used to be owned by Saddam's Sunnis and now the Shiites(and Shiite Iran) control it and the Sunnis are eating dust. Can you see why they're so pissed off now?
Well slim posted a link about Bloomberg reporting rapid increase in current Iraqui oil production levels. Not so much about untapped stuff.
You are correct in that the Kurdish region is where a lot oil has come from and bloomberg gave the results.
But not about regions still untapped.
I am under the impression that the old Al Queada (ISIS) is maneuvering to take the untapped regions.
George Bush Jr invading Iraq has unleashed a problem that can't be solved.
No way does this get fixed militarily.
With Obama it is non stop hemorrhaging. If we had Paul...he said pull out. So a non stop blood bath occurs under his presidency. His son has kind of flip flopped, so he'd be Obama II.
Jeb or Cruz, Fiorina or Rubio would bankrupt us with continued military presence like we have in Korea and Vietnam. Difference is 50 years later our troops in Korea aren't fighting to keep rival sects, insurgents and jihadist out.
I think the stupidest thing is how some attribute this to Islam, alone.
Since The Baathist coup in 1963 was sanctioned by the CIA in order to isolate Nasser, destroy the move towards Arab unity and control of Iraqi oil from the Iraqi people. The Secretary-General of the Baath proudly boasted, “We came to power on a CIA train ”
40 years ago Arab world’s great poet, Saadi Youssef wrote: Which country have you come to now? Here, you will open a door to a torture chamber. And one day in a garden you will see your arms, your eyes, or your speeding heart.”
Then add on Sunni/Shia differences of how Islam should be taught (blood line of the prophet) or by those who followed him. Then add on how WWI.. carved up the Ottoman empire.
Then add on..
Revolutionaries for and against communism. ....removing Saddam under a lie as stated by neocon Paul Wolfowitz..
Validated with the war drum of my God is bigger than your god-challenge..
When LT. General Boykin told Muslims, God put American president Bush Jr in power to fight you..
Add on the secret Dick Cheney Energy Task Force meetings where Iraq maps were drawn according to untapped oil reserves and not according to regions of people.
Add on an Iraqi constitution conceived by the interim government under the watchful eye of Paul Bremer (non Iraqi) fashioned to include PSA production servicec agreements that allowed oil corporations virtual immunity to a vast amount of oil.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_oil_law_(2007)
Sending in troops to bypass munitions dump, fuck securing...the BOARDER.. but...secure oil fields.
Debatthify the government, educators, scientists,
Removing Saddam from power...and the way it was done...is the most stupidest evil vile fucked up act any government has ever done.
In the history of this planet.
Re: Is the world better off without Saddam, George?
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Kirkland Laing
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walrus
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Originally Posted by
Kirkland Laing
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Originally Posted by
walrus
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Originally Posted by
SlimTrae
I agree, Arafat made a lot of mIstakes. And as walrus stated Obama has saId some things that didn't add up.
Slim, regarding your previous post about Bloomberg and the Iraq oil production I still haven't researched it but if memory serves me correct the oil is in the Kurdish stronghold areas which were rather well put together when Saddam wasn't bombing them. Is that part of the story to your knowledge, I forget where that post was @
SlimTrae
About 20% of the oil is in Kurdish areas but these fiels are mostly used up now and won't produce much in the future. Almost all Iraq's oil is in the Shiite south and this oil has hardly been developed at all. It's the biggest undeveloped oil region on the planet by a country mile, there's a hundred and fifty trillion dollars under the ground there. This used to be owned by Saddam's Sunnis and now the Shiites(and Shiite Iran) control it and the Sunnis are eating dust. Can you see why they're so pissed off now?
Well slim posted a link about Bloomberg reporting rapid increase in current Iraqui oil production levels. Not so much about untapped stuff.
That's how they can rapidly increase production levels! Because they have vast reserves of untapped oil!
There's no other country in the world that has anything like Iraq's potential. It's very high qiuality low sulphur oil and it's literally just under the ground. In 2003 loads of Iraqis digging air raid shelters on their land before we invaded did a Jethro Clampett and struck oil on their land there's so much, but there are supergiant fields that western companies mapped out decades ago that have never been drilled. Hundreds of trillions of dollars worth. By comparison the only country in the world with more oil, Saudi, has pumped more than 50% of its oil and production has been declining for years even though they're pumping as much as they can.
Meanwhile in the rest of the world energy companies are reduced to drilling in over 10 000 feet of seawater to tap relatively tiny amounts of oil. That stuff costs more than the current price of oil just to get it out of the ground so it's uneconomic. Iraqi oil costs a dollar a barrel to produce.
Which explains this:
Attachment 3716
They are actually losing drilling sites.
Re: Is the world better off without Saddam, George?
Re: Is the world better off without Saddam, George?
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Originally Posted by
walrus
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Originally Posted by
Kirkland Laing
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Originally Posted by
walrus
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Originally Posted by
Kirkland Laing
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Originally Posted by
walrus
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Originally Posted by
SlimTrae
I agree, Arafat made a lot of mIstakes. And as walrus stated Obama has saId some things that didn't add up.
Slim, regarding your previous post about Bloomberg and the Iraq oil production I still haven't researched it but if memory serves me correct the oil is in the Kurdish stronghold areas which were rather well put together when Saddam wasn't bombing them. Is that part of the story to your knowledge, I forget where that post was @
SlimTrae
About 20% of the oil is in Kurdish areas but these fiels are mostly used up now and won't produce much in the future. Almost all Iraq's oil is in the Shiite south and this oil has hardly been developed at all. It's the biggest undeveloped oil region on the planet by a country mile, there's a hundred and fifty trillion dollars under the ground there. This used to be owned by Saddam's Sunnis and now the Shiites(and Shiite Iran) control it and the Sunnis are eating dust. Can you see why they're so pissed off now?
Well slim posted a link about Bloomberg reporting rapid increase in current Iraqui oil production levels. Not so much about untapped stuff.
That's how they can rapidly increase production levels! Because they have vast reserves of untapped oil!
There's no other country in the world that has anything like Iraq's potential. It's very high qiuality low sulphur oil and it's literally just under the ground. In 2003 loads of Iraqis digging air raid shelters on their land before we invaded did a Jethro Clampett and struck oil on their land there's so much, but there are supergiant fields that western companies mapped out decades ago that have never been drilled. Hundreds of trillions of dollars worth. By comparison the only country in the world with more oil, Saudi, has pumped more than 50% of its oil and production has been declining for years even though they're pumping as much as they can.
Meanwhile in the rest of the world energy companies are reduced to drilling in over 10 000 feet of seawater to tap relatively tiny amounts of oil. That stuff costs more than the current price of oil just to get it out of the ground so it's uneconomic. Iraqi oil costs a dollar a barrel to produce.
Which explains this:
Attachment 3716
They are actually losing drilling sites.
Who are losing drilling sites? You mean oil wells?
Re: Is the world better off without Saddam, George?
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brocktonblockbust
Those 2 little ass wipes Dick Cheney and George Bush have nothing to fall back on now that in retrospect it can be seen that their entire effort in Iraq was an abject failure not to mention a genocide. Is the world better off without Saddam Hussein.
Hahaha. You tell me ...let's take a look at who filled in the vacuum after Saddam Hussein was removed. It looks like isis to me and all these other ass wipe groups beheading people and stuff like that. George Bush Dick Cheney Donald Rumsfeld all fail and the whole lot of those piece of s*** abject failure and in many ways they are responsible for what is happening now
"A BIG DICK"
It was Dick Chaney who convinced George Bush 'W' to make that foolish decision.
Dick Cheney > "We must remove Saddam Hussien, at all costs."
Be Careful In What You Ask For, You Just May Get It.
https://sp.yimg.com/ib/th?id=OIP.M97...95&w=141&h=125
Re: Is the world better off without Saddam, George?
DICK cheney raked over the coals by isis, drawn and quartered and tarred and feathered and then thrown to the wild dogs of the plains in central Africa to be ripped apart and ground up and eaten and then pass thru the intestinal tract of wild beasts and then SHIT OUT IN SMELLY RANCID PILES OF CURLY-CUE SHIT DUNG DFFECES LIKE WHAT HE REALLY IS.
Re: Is the world better off without Saddam, George?
Who said this?
No googling.
Well, just as it’s important, I think, for a president to know when to commit U.S. forces to combat, it’s also important to know when not to commit U.S. forces to combat. I think for us to get American military personnel involved in a civil war inside Iraq would literally be a quagmire. Once we got to Baghdad, what would we do? Who would we put in power? What kind of government would we have? Would it be a Sunni government, a Shi’a government, a Kurdish government? Would it be secular, along the lines of the Ba’ath Party?
Would it be fundamentalist Islamic? I do not think the United States wants to have U.S. military forces accept casualties and accept the responsibility of trying to govern Iraq. I think it makes no sense at all.
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If you can take down the central government of Iraq, you can easily see pieces of Iraq fly off. Part of it the Syrians would like to have in the West. Part of Eastern Iraq the Iranians would like to claim — fought over for eight years.
In the North you have the Kurds, and if the Kurds spin loose and join with the Kurds in Turkey, then you threaten the territorial integrity of Turkey. It’s a quagmire if you go that far and try to take over Iraq.
Re: Is the world better off without Saddam, George?
brock, how would you feel if I told you that under the regime of President Barack Hussein Obama MMM MMM MMM.....that America armed ISIS?
Re: Is the world better off without Saddam, George?
How is Putin feeling now? Imagine if Russia had an opposition party.
Putin has strarted a war against Isis and he's already had a passenger plane shot down and a military jet. And he's done nothing! The world is laughing at Russia and its weak leader! Turkey shoots a jet down and Putin does nothing! Isis blow a passenger plane up and kill Russian civilians and Putin drops a few little bobms in return! We need a strong leader who knows how to deal with these people!
Re: Is the world better off without Saddam, George?
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Kirkland Laing
Who said this?
No googling.
Well, just as it’s important, I think, for a president to know when to commit U.S. forces to combat, it’s also important to know when not to commit U.S. forces to combat. I think for us to get American military personnel involved in a civil war inside Iraq would literally be a quagmire. Once we got to Baghdad, what would we do? Who would we put in power? What kind of government would we have? Would it be a Sunni government, a Shi’a government, a Kurdish government? Would it be secular, along the lines of the Ba’ath Party?
Would it be fundamentalist Islamic? I do not think the United States wants to have U.S. military forces accept casualties and accept the responsibility of trying to govern Iraq. I think it makes no sense at all.
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If you can take down the central government of Iraq, you can easily see pieces of Iraq fly off. Part of it the Syrians would like to have in the West. Part of Eastern Iraq the Iranians would like to claim — fought over for eight years.
In the North you have the Kurds, and if the Kurds spin loose and join with the Kurds in Turkey, then you threaten the territorial integrity of Turkey. It’s a quagmire if you go that far and try to take over Iraq.
Dick Cheney.
Re: Is the world better off without Saddam, George?
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Bill Paxtom
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Originally Posted by
brocktonblockbust
Those 2 little ass wipes Dick Cheney and George Bush have nothing to fall back on now that in retrospect it can be seen that their entire effort in Iraq was an abject failure not to mention a genocide. Is the world better off without Saddam Hussein.
Hahaha. You tell me ...let's take a look at who filled in the vacuum after Saddam Hussein was removed. It looks like isis to me and all these other ass wipe groups beheading people and stuff like that. George Bush Dick Cheney Donald Rumsfeld all fail and the whole lot of those piece of s*** abject failure and in many ways they are responsible for what is happening now
"A BIG DICK"
It was Dick Chaney who convinced George Bush 'W' to make that foolish decision.
Dick Cheney > "We must remove Saddam Hussien, at all costs."
Be Careful In What You Ask For, You Just May Get It.
https://sp.yimg.com/ib/th?id=OIP.M97...95&w=141&h=125
Yup Hehehe Bush led from behind.....the VP
Now every president afterwards has to contend with an uncontrollable situation all because God told Bush Jr to invade
Glad I'm not silly enough to think if ISIS gets destroyed, another group of depraved killers won't pop up with a new name.
With the same agenda.
