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Originally Posted by ross
Maybe that could have been worded better:oQuote:
Originally Posted by Greenbeanz
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Originally Posted by rossMaybe that could have been worded better:oQuote:
Originally Posted by Greenbeanz
I wouldn't go either. The champion should defend at home at all times.
I'm all for Wilder expanding his geographical horizons but he is the champ. What possible objections could Povetkin have to fighting in the U.S.? He cited "right circumstances". What are those? The objections are not money... they're location. Seems like an easy hurdle to overcome, and I figure it will pretty soon.
Personally, I give Povetkin better than a 50/50 chance to beat Wilder. Povetkin is by light years the most polished. IMO, he should be chomping at the bit for the chance to unseat Wilder, regardless of where they fight.
Anyone know what the numbers are for Wilder/Szpilka. If wilder's really not drawing a whole lot of fans (fighting the molinas of the world), the possibility does exist that the money and draw of a Russian fighter having an opportunity to fight for a world title in front of a home town crowd does pay off better than Wilder. The challenger should have to chase the title but with the Type of promoter driven f*ckery (catch weights, location, rehydration clauses, denying people stuff like knee braces) we have now throwing hurdles in front of challengers just to protect champions...these kind of x factors like nationalism driven cash hordes can even things a little.
behave more like dribbling primates instead of the black athletes they howl at. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenbeanzHow ?Quote:
Originally Posted by rossMaybe that could have been worded better:oQuote:
Originally Posted by Greenbeanz
the way you phrased it kind of makes an equation that sounds like regardless of how much more the fans act like dribbling primates... at the basic level there is still a correlation between black athletes and acting like dribbling primates. I'm sure it was purely unintended.
Its worrying the blatantly obvious needed to be pointed out to him:-\Quote:
Originally Posted by J_Undisputedbehave more like dribbling primates instead of the black athletes they howl at. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenbeanzHow ?Quote:
Originally Posted by rossMaybe that could have been worded better:oQuote:
Originally Posted by Greenbeanz
the way you phrased it kind of makes an equation that sounds like regardless of how much more the fans act like dribbling primates... at the basic level there is still a correlation between black athletes and acting like dribbling primates. I'm sure it was purely unintended.
It's worrying that the pair of you could super impose something that is not there. When white Russian racists dress up in gorilla suits, make monkey noises and throw banana skins at black athletes then they are acting like our primate cousins, not civilized human beings.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossIts worrying the blatantly obvious needed to be pointed out to him:-\Quote:
Originally Posted by J_Undisputedbehave more like dribbling primates instead of the black athletes they howl at. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenbeanzHow ?Quote:
Originally Posted by rossMaybe that could have been worded better:oQuote:
Originally Posted by Greenbeanz
the way you phrased it kind of makes an equation that sounds like regardless of how much more the fans act like dribbling primates... at the basic level there is still a correlation between black athletes and acting like dribbling primates. I'm sure it was purely unintended.
We are all primates but pointing out the irony in white idiots claiming black humans are more like monkeys, whilst acting like a troop of animals themselves, does in no way infer that there is some credence in the correlation they are seeking to make.
The WBC set the purse bid date - Feb 26th. They have till then to make the fight otherwise Wilder is going to Russia if he wants to keep that belt.
If Povetkin's promoter bids $20 million for the fight the champion is due 75-80% of that if the fight is in Russia. If Wilder can make fifteen or sixteen million plus US TV money and set himself up for life in one fight when he knows he's just one big punch in any fight away from exposure he'll be off over there like a shot.Quote:
Originally Posted by ykdadamaja
My apologies if I offended you beanz, that was not my intention. It was a semantics thing. I did pause for a second when I read that statement so I guess in that sense i understood what ross meant. I should have pm'd that to you. It was bad form on my part. When you wrote "How?" I just naturally responded by hitting the reply button. It wasn't mean to be calling you out in anyway, just trying to be helpful.Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenbeanzIt's worrying that the pair of you could super impose something that is not there. When white Russian racists dress up in gorilla suits, make monkey noises and throw banana skins at black athletes then they are acting like our primate cousins, not civilized human beings.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossIts worrying the blatantly obvious needed to be pointed out to him:-\Quote:
Originally Posted by J_Undisputedbehave more like dribbling primates instead of the black athletes they howl at. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenbeanzHow ?Quote:
Originally Posted by rossMaybe that could have been worded better:oQuote:
Originally Posted by Greenbeanz
the way you phrased it kind of makes an equation that sounds like regardless of how much more the fans act like dribbling primates... at the basic level there is still a correlation between black athletes and acting like dribbling primates. I'm sure it was purely unintended.
We are all primates but pointing out the irony in white idiots claiming black humans are more like monkeys, whilst acting like a troop of animals themselves, does in no way infer that there is some credence in the correlation they are seeking to make.
That has to be one of the most whimpering posts iv ever seen!
http://youtu.be/Vrq_nDZGXWM
Fair play, I've got to hand it to you, you are a complete prick, you don't put this shit on, you just can't help yourself πππ.Quote:
Originally Posted by ross
The guy is trying to be polite and I'm sure he meant it.
You hate everyone and you want everyone to hate you. Fair play to you.
Hes apologising for pointing out something looks racist;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraFair play, I've got to hand it to you, you are a complete prick, you don't put this shit on, you just can't help yourself πππ.Quote:
Originally Posted by ross
The guy is trying to be polite and I'm sure he meant it.
You hate everyone and you want everyone to hate you. Fair play to you.
It does look racist. He has nothing to apologise for, let alone grovel:eek:
No problem mate, no offence taken and I apologise if people were offended.Quote:
Originally Posted by J_UndisputedMy apologies if I offended you beanz, that was not my intention. It was a semantics thing. I did pause for a second when I read that statement so I guess in that sense i understood what ross meant. I should have pm'd that to you. It was bad form on my part. When you wrote "How?" I just naturally responded by hitting the reply button. It wasn't mean to be calling you out in anyway, just trying to be helpful.Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenbeanzIt's worrying that the pair of you could super impose something that is not there. When white Russian racists dress up in gorilla suits, make monkey noises and throw banana skins at black athletes then they are acting like our primate cousins, not civilized human beings.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossIts worrying the blatantly obvious needed to be pointed out to him:-\Quote:
Originally Posted by J_Undisputedbehave more like dribbling primates instead of the black athletes they howl at. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenbeanzHow ?Quote:
Originally Posted by rossMaybe that could have been worded better:oQuote:
Originally Posted by Greenbeanz
the way you phrased it kind of makes an equation that sounds like regardless of how much more the fans act like dribbling primates... at the basic level there is still a correlation between black athletes and acting like dribbling primates. I'm sure it was purely unintended.
We are all primates but pointing out the irony in white idiots claiming black humans are more like monkeys, whilst acting like a troop of animals themselves, does in no way infer that there is some credence in the correlation they are seeking to make.
He's apologising because he knows that it wasn't meant to be racist and fully understands that , but was just trying to be helpful and show it from another perspective. It's called empathy dear boy, but that word, along with humility , modesty, intelligence and reasoning don't exist in your vocabulary. ;D;D:cool::cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by rossHes apologising for pointing out something looks racist;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraFair play, I've got to hand it to you, you are a complete prick, you don't put this shit on, you just can't help yourself πππ.Quote:
Originally Posted by ross
The guy is trying to be polite and I'm sure he meant it.
You hate everyone and you want everyone to hate you. Fair play to you.
It does look racist. He has nothing to apologise for, let alone grovel:eek:
Ross....... you are an idiot.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossHes apologising for pointing out something looks racist;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraFair play, I've got to hand it to you, you are a complete prick, you don't put this shit on, you just can't help yourself πππ.Quote:
Originally Posted by ross
The guy is trying to be polite and I'm sure he meant it.
You hate everyone and you want everyone to hate you. Fair play to you.
It does look racist. He has nothing to apologise for, let alone grovel:eek:
I'm not apologizing for point out something that looks racist. Nor am I apologizing for trying to help someone understand your point of view. Just for the way he took it if I could done it in another way that didn't make him feel like he was being attacked. There's no groveling in accepting responsibility where you could have done something better.;D
the fact is in Russia they are generally hostile to black people , ive been and in may am returning to Russia so I know this is a fact.
Wilder is champ and should fight at home , that's the privilege of being the champ.
Id rather people think im an idiot than a racist.Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenbeanzRoss....... you are an idiot.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossHes apologising for pointing out something looks racist;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraFair play, I've got to hand it to you, you are a complete prick, you don't put this shit on, you just can't help yourself πππ.Quote:
Originally Posted by ross
The guy is trying to be polite and I'm sure he meant it.
You hate everyone and you want everyone to hate you. Fair play to you.
It does look racist. He has nothing to apologise for, let alone grovel:eek:
I don't care what you think Ross. I am not a racist and that is what is important, not what people may think.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossId rather people think im an idiot than a racist.Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenbeanzRoss....... you are an idiot.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossHes apologising for pointing out something looks racist;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraFair play, I've got to hand it to you, you are a complete prick, you don't put this shit on, you just can't help yourself πππ.Quote:
Originally Posted by ross
The guy is trying to be polite and I'm sure he meant it.
You hate everyone and you want everyone to hate you. Fair play to you.
It does look racist. He has nothing to apologise for, let alone grovel:eek:
Just to sum up - Idiots can also be racist .
But we all know Beanz from a Jewish background wasn't being racist I also don't think he is an idiot.
Maybe dont compare black people to "dribbling primates".Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenbeanzI don't care what you think Ross. I am not a racist and that is what is important, not what people may think.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossId rather people think im an idiot than a racist.Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenbeanzRoss....... you are an idiot.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossHes apologising for pointing out something looks racist;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraFair play, I've got to hand it to you, you are a complete prick, you don't put this shit on, you just can't help yourself πππ.Quote:
Originally Posted by ross
The guy is trying to be polite and I'm sure he meant it.
You hate everyone and you want everyone to hate you. Fair play to you.
It does look racist. He has nothing to apologise for, let alone grovel:eek:
I Compared white people in gorilla suits throwing bananas at black footballers to "dribbling primates". That is something quite different to what you are suggesting you monkey brained fool.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossMaybe dont compare black people to "dribbling primates".Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenbeanzI don't care what you think Ross. I am not a racist and that is what is important, not what people may think.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossId rather people think im an idiot than a racist.Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenbeanzRoss....... you are an idiot.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossHes apologising for pointing out something looks racist;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraFair play, I've got to hand it to you, you are a complete prick, you don't put this shit on, you just can't help yourself πππ.Quote:
Originally Posted by ross
The guy is trying to be polite and I'm sure he meant it.
You hate everyone and you want everyone to hate you. Fair play to you.
It does look racist. He has nothing to apologise for, let alone grovel:eek:
"You can't educate pork" when you said that to me did I presume you were being racist? No, so maybe try using a bit of common sense. You construct sentences and spell like a simpleton and then berate American posters for using accepted conventions, you are not really helping your own cause mate.
It's a boxing thread, let's try and keep it on track.
Beans we all know you are not racist , I do have a legit question buddy , I know you are of a Jewish background but do you practice the faith and do you eat pork ?Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenbeanzI Compared white people in gorilla suits throwing bananas at black footballers to "dribbling primates". That is something quite different to what you are suggesting you monkey brained fool.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossMaybe dont compare black people to "dribbling primates".Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenbeanzI don't care what you think Ross. I am not a racist and that is what is important, not what people may think.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossId rather people think im an idiot than a racist.Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenbeanzRoss....... you are an idiot.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossQuote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraFair play, I've got to hand it to you, you are a complete prick, you don't put this shit on, you just can't help yourself πππ.Quote:
Originally Posted by ross
The guy is trying to be polite and I'm sure he meant it.
You hate everyone and you want everyone to hate you. Fair play to you.
Hes apologising for pointing out something looks racist;D
It does look racist. He has nothing to apologise for, let alone grovel:eek:
"You can't educate pork" when you said that to me did I presume you were being racist? No, so maybe try using a bit of common sense. You construct sentences and spell like a simpleton and then berate American posters for using accepted conventions, you are not really helping your own cause mate.
It's a boxing thread, let's try and keep it on track.
What! "You cant educate pork" Has zero racist connotations!
Unless your including pigs or joints of pork as a human race?;D:rolleyes:
Ill repeat what you said was that the fans behave more like dribbling primates than the black athletes they howl at. So basically in your opinion the black athletes behave like Dribbling primates just less than the fans:rolleyes:
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Originally Posted by Greenbeanz
You are demonstrating quite aptly any human beings ability to revert to acting like a dribbling primate. If you really think that such behaviour is restricted to white people then it is you who has issues mate. The irony falls on White Russians for failing to acknowledge that it takes more than vodka and fresh cream to make a sweet cocktail.Quote:
Originally Posted by ross
The rest of the world has moved on. Both you and I know what it's like to live in an isolated rural backwater so maybe you can acknowledge your own ignorance and do the same thing mate.
...and just in case you don't get it
I apologise if Coffee Liquer has now become a racial slur
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Originally Posted by Dark Lord AlBeans we all know you are not racist , I do have a legit question buddy , I know you are of a Jewish background but do you practice the faith and do you eat pork ?Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenbeanzI Compared white people in gorilla suits throwing bananas at black footballers to "dribbling primates". That is something quite different to what you are suggesting you monkey brained fool.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossMaybe dont compare black people to "dribbling primates".Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenbeanzI don't care what you think Ross. I am not a racist and that is what is important, not what people may think.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossId rather people think im an idiot than a racist.Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenbeanzRoss....... you are an idiot.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossQuote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraFair play, I've got to hand it to you, you are a complete prick, you don't put this shit on, you just can't help yourself πππ.Quote:
Originally Posted by ross
The guy is trying to be polite and I'm sure he meant it.
You hate everyone and you want everyone to hate you. Fair play to you.
Hes apologising for pointing out something looks racist;D
It does look racist. He has nothing to apologise for, let alone grovel:eek:
"You can't educate pork" when you said that to me did I presume you were being racist? No, so maybe try using a bit of common sense. You construct sentences and spell like a simpleton and then berate American posters for using accepted conventions, you are not really helping your own cause mate.
It's a boxing thread, let's try and keep it on track.
I would consider myself an agnostic Jew so I rarely go to Synagogue and while I try to keep Saturdays for family stuff I only really light Shabbat Candles and do the Blessing and Pslams etc when my Father is visiting. It is very moving to hear and I like the fact that women are giving quite a leading role in acknowledgment of the work that they do.
I do eat Pork, but very rarely, and try to avoid it for health reasons as much as anything else. Like many a lapsed vegetarian tho, it is very hard to avoid the temptation when you can smell others making a bacon butty ;D
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Originally Posted by GreenbeanzQuote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord AlBeans we all know you are not racist , I do have a legit question buddy , I know you are of a Jewish background but do you practice the faith and do you eat pork ?Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenbeanzI Compared white people in gorilla suits throwing bananas at black footballers to "dribbling primates". That is something quite different to what you are suggesting you monkey brained fool.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossMaybe dont compare black people to "dribbling primates".Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenbeanzI don't care what you think Ross. I am not a racist and that is what is important, not what people may think.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossId rather people think im an idiot than a racist.Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenbeanzRoss....... you are an idiot.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossQuote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraFair play, I've got to hand it to you, you are a complete prick, you don't put this shit on, you just can't help yourself ν ½νΈν ½νΈν ½νΈ.Quote:
Originally Posted by ross
The guy is trying to be polite and I'm sure he meant it.
You hate everyone and you want everyone to hate you. Fair play to you.
Hes apologising for pointing out something looks racist;D
It does look racist. He has nothing to apologise for, let alone grovel:eek:
"You can't educate pork" when you said that to me did I presume you were being racist? No, so maybe try using a bit of common sense. You construct sentences and spell like a simpleton and then berate American posters for using accepted conventions, you are not really helping your own cause mate.
It's a boxing thread, let's try and keep it on track.
I would consider myself an agnostic Jew so I rarely go to Synagogue and while I try to keep Saturdays for family stuff I only really light Shabbat Candles and do the Blessing and Pslams etc when my Father is visiting. It is very moving to hear and I like the fact that women are giving quite a leading role in acknowledgment of the work that they do.
I do eat Pork, but very rarely, and try to avoid it for health reasons as much as anything else. Like many a lapsed vegetarian tho, it is very hard to avoid the temptation when you can smell others making a bacon butty ;D
The bacon butty is the downfall of many a good man.
Greenbeanz never meant anything racist in the post and it should not be read as such.
Thank you Ross for letting Greenbeanz know that it could be interpreted differently than it was intended.
Lets draw a line under this now.