Amir Khan to fight Saul Alvarez for WBC world title in Las Vegas

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Originally Posted by p4pking

Can only give Khan his props for this really, I like the fight also. Pretty sure he'll get KO'ed, but I can see why he would feel otherwise. It will have to be a really great performance from him to pull this off, and I'm sure he knows that.

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If he wins it may force Floyd out of retirement to face him. Would give Khan a reason to dodge GGG too who would be his mandatory should he beat Alvarez. Imagine that GGG v Khan for the middleweight world title.

Why my title was butchered is beyond me but anyway, I cant get over them announcing it at 155. To funny. Maybe they mean Khan cant weigh more then 155 on fight night.

I'm surprised people out there think Lara beat Canelo, would love to watch the fight in the same room with someone of that view point, it would be interesting. Canelo landed more than a glove on Lara and when he did, it carried consequence which Lara's shots did not.

Anyways, wow. This fight is umm, I need time hahah

Oh dear. I am not sure about this one at all. Khan is not a JMW/MW and he has trouble taking a punch. If Khan can be decked by the likes of Garcia, I don't know what he is doing going up to this division. Canelo isn't great by any stretch, but he is quick and can punch. Khan is not Lara or Mayweather because he has a very low boxing IQ. I am sure he will be able to win rounds based on activity, but is he really going to get through 12 rounds without being tagged by a hard hitting explosive guy that walks around so much heavier?

The fight is a curious one, but it makes little sense from Khan's point of view.

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Originally Posted by Master

This is a crazy mad risk by Khan. He is almost certain to have a title fight for the welterweight title against Garcia or whoever they choose should they strip Garcia of the title. So khan should be looking for a easy fight now and people were guessing Berto or Rios.

This move is ridiculous should he lose. I think Khan can not avoid Canelo for 12 rounds and will get stopped. Khan has not fought a big puncher since Garcia and moved to his new trainer. So moving up a weight and taking on a power puncher seems crazy just for the money and profile.

If he pulls it off it would be amazing and you have to give credit to Khan for taking this chance but I see it as a career ending loss.

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I agree. I have never been Khan's biggest fan, but you have to give him full credit for having the balls to do this. I will be willing him on as I am a sucker for an underdog with a big heart, but it's a tough ask asking someone who lapses and has a dodgy chin to get in there and fight a much bigger stronger man.

I guess Khan sees Canelo's inactivity as a way to bank rounds, but Canelo for that one minute each round is explosive and very fast. It's a risky move.

Why is anybody giving khan credit for taking this fight? His stock is at an all time low and this is easily the biggest money fight that can be made. Khan fears the other Welters and knows that fighting someone like Garcia or Thurman won't get him anywhere near the payday and he will probably still lose.

If he is going to lose anyways, at least he can make the excuse that he was the smaller man against Canelo. And Canelo just shows that he's a slightly better version of Chavez jr by fighting people half his size almost every fight.

It makes Khan look good and Alvarez look terrible. And it's a big payday for Khan. But he's going to get his head taken off. He got caught plenty by Algieri, he's going to get caught by Alvarez. And the weight gain isn't going to help him either. He just moved up to welter, he's going to look blown up and slow. I still can't believe this one.

How can anyone say this fight is not a farce? And of course Khan deserves credit for taking it and hooray for him getting a huge payday but what does that have to do with the mockery that this fight represents? Its incredible to me that this is somehow being legitimized because Khan has a set and will make a ton of cash. You know Floyd vs Kovalev would also make a ton of cash. This lineal Ring middleweight champion has yet to fight 1 middleweight. That’s accepted because people will pay for it?????

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How can anyone say this fight is not a farce? And of course Khan deserves credit for taking it and hooray for him getting a huge payday but what does that have to do with the mockery that this fight represents? Its incredible to me that this is somehow being legitimized because Khan has a set and will make a ton of cash. You know Floyd vs Kovalev would also make a ton of cash. This lineal Ring middleweight champion has yet to fight 1 middleweight. That’s accepted because people will pay for it?????

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It is a fairly bonkers fight and does reflect poorly on Canelo. DLH is trying to make comparisons with him and Pac, but DLH fails to acknowledge that he was old, shot and had to boil down to a mad weight. This is very different. If Khan pulls this off he is a genius, but the consensus seems to be that he is a bit daft. Very odd fight to be making when Khan can be fighting the likes of Garcia and probably win comfortably.

Bullsh*t move by Canelo, but par for the course. Even I didn't think Canelo would stoop this low. No disrespect to Khan, who's showing an industrial-sized pair of balls..... but c'mon. This breaks new ground for Canelo and Team Golden Boy. They're not even trying to disguise this under the semblance of a decent and fair confrontation.

The gravy train continues. A bloated record built on mostly has-beens and woefully undersized fighters. What a horrific farce! I've said it before and I'll say it again...... Canelo and JCC Jr. have a lot more in common than just their nationality.

Pathetic.

Khan is forgetting one pretty big fact. He can't take a fucking punch. Khan will be pushing up daisies before the 3rd round. The fight is a mismatch that shouldn't be happening. But I'm cool with it cuz fuck Khan.

I guess this is what people were bitching about in the other thread it is kinda of let down fight and GGG pretty much getting fucked. Canelo has wins over Cott,Trout and Lara and now he going to face Kahn kinda step backwards but if he faces GGG next i can live with it if not drop the title.

Danny Garcia was smaller than Khan and won by KO , how does anybody think he has a chance against the much bigger Canelo who is equally as durable as Garcia ?
This looks like a mismatch to me but I don't have a problem seeing Khan koed brutally.

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Originally Posted by TitoFan

Bullsh*t move by Canelo, but par for the course. Even I didn't think Canelo would stoop this low. No disrespect to Khan, who's showing an industrial-sized pair of balls..... but c'mon. This breaks new ground for Canelo and Team Golden Boy. They're not even trying to disguise this under the semblance of a decent and fair confrontation.

The gravy train continues. A bloated record built on mostly has-beens and woefully undersized fighters. What a horrific farce! I've said it before and I'll say it again...... Canelo and JCC Jr. have a lot more in common than just their nationality.

Pathetic.

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Why bring JCC Jr. up? That makes no sense and literally all they have in common is their nationality.

Canelo's resume is fine, and he's 25 years old. Mayweather, Lara, Trout, Cotto and Kirkland is really elite competition and JCC has nothing close to that. You're discrediting any point you are attempting to make with that comparison.

Anyways, this fight kind of sucks. I would not have a problem with this if Canelo wasn't on the 2 fight a year schedule but it seems like that's the case. If this fight was occurring in late March or early April, I would have no problem. But it's not, it's in May on the premier day of the boxing calendar. Hopefully the September fight will more than make up for it.

This wouldn't be a big deal if he wasn't the Middleweight champion. He should be a Super Welter or a Middleweight but he shouldn't really be something in between but that is the reality of our current landscape and it did not start with Canelo Alvarez. It started with Mayweather (I think) and Canelo was once put at a disadvantage by this by having to go to 152. If this fight (Khan) is going to be made, I'm actually happy for this catchweight because if Canelo could come in at 160 then this would have a lot less excitement.

Fight isn't going to play out very well for Khan though. He still fights with way too much nervous energy and Canelo doesn't waste too much movement and he should be able to slice right through him. Can't see Khan moving Canelo backwards nor can I see him being able to keep the fight in the center of the ring and connect enough to win enough rounds to win this. I think Canelo will be installed at +550 or so and if it's lower I'll actually bet a favorite which I never do.

Like I said though, his past 5 opponents (excluding Angulo I guess) have been as solid as anyone in boxing's right? He would have an easier time getting a free pass if he didn't only fight twice a year.

It's a fight that might have made a bit more sense after they had fought the real challenge in their own weight division. Post Khan/Brook and Canelo/Golovkin then a catchweight money making spectacle makes sense, and possibly even more sense, had they both lost. The date though factors into this and while Canelo has had his warm up, and could fight GGG on the same date, and still make huge money, Golovkin looks to now be fighting Wade in April and Brook is busy in March.

It has all the hallmarks of a possibly great and definitely entertaining fight, but it's also neither a mandatory gimme or any kind of preparation for Canelo to face the REAL middleweight champ, or Khan to face his own nemesis back home. In that sense it's bollocks.

Everyone will watch though.

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Originally Posted by Greenbeanz

It's a fight that might have made a bit more sense after they had fought the real challenge in their own weight division. Post Khan/Brook and Canelo/Golovkin then a catchweight money making spectacle makes sense, and possibly even more sense, had they both lost. The date though factors into this and while Canelo has had his warm up, and could fight GGG on the same date, and still make huge money, Golovkin looks to now be fighting Wade in April and Brook is busy in March.

It has all the hallmarks of a possibly great and definitely entertaining fight, but it's also neither a mandatory gimme or any kind of preparation for Canelo to face the REAL middleweight champ, or Khan to face his own nemesis back home. In that sense it's bollocks.

Everyone will watch though.

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what if they had have both lost, would it be that interesting then?

Who cares who is the real champ in what division

is this not just an interesting fight?

I cant think of another fight that is already made for this year that I am looking forward to more

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Originally Posted by erics44

Who cares who is the real champ in what division

is this not just an interesting fight?

I cant think of another fight that is already made for this year that I am looking forward to more

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That's all fair comment, but if it's such an interesting fight, then don't make it for the title.
The reality is, that if there wasn't a title at stake , a.) it wouldn't generate as much interest, and b.) it would have a touch of the "Circus act" look about it.
at the end of the day, a World Title fight should NEVER have a catchweight or weight limit other than the official division weight limit.

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Originally Posted by TitoFan

Bullsh*t move by Canelo, but par for the course. Even I didn't think Canelo would stoop this low. No disrespect to Khan, who's showing an industrial-sized pair of balls..... but c'mon. This breaks new ground for Canelo and Team Golden Boy. They're not even trying to disguise this under the semblance of a decent and fair confrontation.

The gravy train continues. A bloated record built on mostly has-beens and woefully undersized fighters. What a horrific farce! I've said it before and I'll say it again...... Canelo and JCC Jr. have a lot more in common than just their nationality.

Pathetic.

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Why bring JCC Jr. up? That makes no sense and literally all they have in common is their nationality.

Canelo's resume is fine, and he's 25 years old. Mayweather, Lara, Trout, Cotto and Kirkland is really elite competition and JCC has nothing close to that. You're discrediting any point you are attempting to make with that comparison.

Anyways, this fight kind of sucks. I would not have a problem with this if Canelo wasn't on the 2 fight a year schedule but it seems like that's the case. If this fight was occurring in late March or early April, I would have no problem. But it's not, it's in May on the premier day of the boxing calendar. Hopefully the September fight will more than make up for it.

This wouldn't be a big deal if he wasn't the Middleweight champion. He should be a Super Welter or a Middleweight but he shouldn't really be something in between but that is the reality of our current landscape and it did not start with Canelo Alvarez. It started with Mayweather (I think) and Canelo was once put at a disadvantage by this by having to go to 152. If this fight (Khan) is going to be made, I'm actually happy for this catchweight because if Canelo could come in at 160 then this would have a lot less excitement.

Fight isn't going to play out very well for Khan though. He still fights with way too much nervous energy and Canelo doesn't waste too much movement and he should be able to slice right through him. Can't see Khan moving Canelo backwards nor can I see him being able to keep the fight in the center of the ring and connect enough to win enough rounds to win this. I think Canelo will be installed at +550 or so and if it's lower I'll actually bet a favorite which I never do.

Like I said though, his past 5 opponents (excluding Angulo I guess) have been as solid as anyone in boxing's right? He would have an easier time getting a free pass if he didn't only fight twice a year.

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An old past his prime Mayweather embarrassed him Lara also beat him in my opinion and a lot of people also thought he got beat. Trout lost a very close fight and some feel he won and I really don't rate trout that much at all. An old way past his prime cotto lost a close fight again but got completely done over on the score cards that fight was a lot closer. So that just leaves Kirkland who he beat well and let's be honest kirklands shit so his resume is very suspect to say the least. Khan also only gets kod when he decides to stand and trade somthing he's not going to do against Canelo so should he box clever it should be a 9-3 10-2 type of fight for Khan cause Canelo is shite against people who can box with speed

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Originally Posted by Primo Carnera

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Originally Posted by erics44

Who cares who is the real champ in what division

is this not just an interesting fight?

I cant think of another fight that is already made for this year that I am looking forward to more

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That's all fair comment, but if it's such an interesting fight, then don't make it for the title.
The reality is, that if there wasn't a title at stake , a.) it wouldn't generate as much interest, and b.) it would have a touch of the "Circus act" look about it.
at the end of the day, a World Title fight should NEVER have a catchweight or weight limit other than the official division weight limit.

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all very true, but not the worst situation for a world title fight there's ever been

Charles Martin is World Heavyweight champ, alright his fight wasn't a catch weight and both fighters had fought at HW before but common, legitimate?

there's probably been 50 less legitimate world title fights per year for the last 10 years

Pathetic on Canelos part to accept/make this fight. GGG is the top middleweight and this is a blatant duck, made worse by the fact that he chose a man two weight divisions south who has a suspect chin and stamina issues. Ring magazine and the pertinent alphabet organization should strip him of his title and recognition as champion.

I agree with the observation that Khan will outbox Canelo early, however. I see Khan leading on points until his stamina issues surface, allowing Canelo to catch him solidly on his suspect chin. If Algieri and Maidana were able to make Khan wilt, the much larger Canelo will be able to also. I'm betting Canelo stops him between rounds 8-11.

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Originally Posted by erics44

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Originally Posted by Primo Carnera

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Originally Posted by erics44

Who cares who is the real champ in what division

is this not just an interesting fight?

I cant think of another fight that is already made for this year that I am looking forward to more

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That's all fair comment, but if it's such an interesting fight, then don't make it for the title.
The reality is, that if there wasn't a title at stake , a.) it wouldn't generate as much interest, and b.) it would have a touch of the "Circus act" look about it.
at the end of the day, a World Title fight should NEVER have a catchweight or weight limit other than the official division weight limit.

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all very true, but not the worst situation for a world title fight there's ever been

Charles Martin is World Heavyweight champ, alright his fight wasn't a catch weight and both fighters had fought at HW before but common, legitimate?

there's probably been 50 less legitimate world title fights per year for the last 10 years

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hmmm, depends on whether we're talking worthiness or matchup or what. we'll see what happens, you never know , Khan could easily prove me wrong, but the point is that there might as well not be weight categories or Governing bodies if this sort of matchup is made.
if Khan were to win, he would have to fight GGG as his mandatory. now , I don't believe that fight happens , and tbh I hope it doesn't , because I seriously believe that would be dangerous!

for the record I really don't think khan will win

alverez will be too big and too tough and he will walk through khans punches and sooner or later he will land, i don't think khan can be fit enough to keep up his style for 12 rounds against a much bigger man

but I hope I'm wrong :)

Well what ever next ! has Khan had a lobotomy brave and stupid all in one.
Canelo is going to take some beating bigger stronger, if a light welter can put
Khan away, Canelo needs a named opponent good fight yes a bit of a shock this one.

Canello has blatantly avoided Golovkin here but Khan is in a win win situation, he's gonna make BIG money and even if he does lose nobody will care because he's taken a risk by fighting a bigger guy.


If he does win (which I think he will do and very easily) then he's set up for a massive payday next where he can go the Brook route.


I will say it again.... this is an EASY nights work for Amir IF he boxes clever.


Canello will simply be made to look stupid, clueless, slow and very ordinary just like when he chased Floyd around the ring all night ;)


It's Amirs to lose this fight and if he sticks to a strict gameplan he wins every single round.

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Originally Posted by smashup

Canello has blatantly avoided Golovkin here but Khan is in a win win situation, he's gonna make BIG money and even if he does lose nobody will care because he's taken a risk by fighting a bigger guy.


If he does win (which I think he will do and very easily) then he's set up for a massive payday next where he can go the Brook route.


I will say it again.... this is an EASY nights work for Amir IF he boxes clever.


Canello will simply be made to look stupid, clueless, slow and very ordinary just like when he chased Floyd around the ring all night ;)


It's Amirs to lose this fight and if he sticks to a strict gameplan he wins every single round.

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Smash you been drinking mate bit early in the morning.;D

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Originally Posted by smashup

Canello has blatantly avoided Golovkin here but Khan is in a win win situation, he's gonna make BIG money and even if he does lose nobody will care because he's taken a risk by fighting a bigger guy.


If he does win (which I think he will do and very easily) then he's set up for a massive payday next where he can go the Brook route.


I will say it again.... this is an EASY nights work for Amir IF he boxes clever.


Canello will simply be made to look stupid, clueless, slow and very ordinary just like when he chased Floyd around the ring all night ;)


It's Amirs to lose this fight and if he sticks to a strict gameplan he wins every single round.

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Smash you been drinking mate bit early in the morning.;D

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;D
Bull and Matador stuff, Canello is a slow fighter and Amir is lightning fast.
Khan knows that one mistake and he's going to sleep, I don't think he'll make that mistake.
I do think he'll make the Ginger one look a mug for 12 rounds though ;)

You all fuckin love it really ;D

IT STARTS! This is where everybody makes Khan out to be this super skilled elusive fighter . If he can't keep Algieri off him for 12 rounds , how the fuck is he gonna keep Canelo from coming forward?
Manny kept Algieri from coming forward by putting him on his ass 6 times!!! Do we think Manny would beat Canelo "easily"? hmmm

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Originally Posted by smashup

Canello has blatantly avoided Golovkin here but Khan is in a win win situation, he's gonna make BIG money and even if he does lose nobody will care because he's taken a risk by fighting a bigger guy.


If he does win (which I think he will do and very easily) then he's set up for a massive payday next where he can go the Brook route.


I will say it again.... this is an EASY nights work for Amir IF he boxes clever.


Canello will simply be made to look stupid, clueless, slow and very ordinary just like when he chased Floyd around the ring all night ;)


It's Amirs to lose this fight and if he sticks to a strict gameplan he wins every single round.

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Smash you been drinking mate bit early in the morning.;D

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;D
Bull and Matador stuff, Canello is a slow fighter and Amir is lightning fast.
Khan knows that one mistake and he's going to sleep, I don't think he'll make that mistake.
I do think he'll make the Ginger one look a mug for 12 rounds though ;)

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Smash you could be right but 36 minutes trying to avoid getting hit it's a big ask, he could do it
but Khan has not really been impressive at welter has he, wobbly jelly legs if Khan was the man in the iron mask he would win, but in reality he has a china cup covering his chin mate.

Basically Froch has copied my take on this fight and also see's Khan as very able to win this.


https://www.boxing247.com/boxing-new...-winning/52243

Khan isn't a defensive genius. He isn't mayweather. He has fast hands. He is a good boxer but has multiple flaws and has lost multiple times. I rate Canelo higher than khan on a p4p basis so with the weight advantage, its easy nights work for canelo.

Khan career will be over after this fight, his last pay check.

Khan will one day wake up in the morning training for this fight and think to himself WTF have I done!

I'm so cynical about this.

It's a blatant PPV pitch for non boxing fans. Khan has an army of mainly stupid followers in the UK who will shell out to see this, and Alvarez has an army of mainly stupid followers in Mexico who will shell out to see this. It's an 'event' fight for the non initiated.

In terms of people who (think they) know a bit about boxing;

- it's a junior middleweight fight for the full middleweight 'title', being contested by a guy who isn't even ranked at super welter and a guy who wasn't ranked at middleweight until his last fight.
- Canelo enters the ring at about 170 for this fight, so he outweighs Khans fighting weight by over 20 pounds.
- if I was a true middleweight, I'd be pretty depressed at having a titleholder at my weight who has no intention of defending against a real middleweight
- shame on Alvarez. This is the equivalent of Kovalev defending his title against Juan Manuel Marquez at the super middleweight limit:confused:
- this seems quite ballsy by Khan,as everyone will expect him to get knocked the fuck out, especially when you consider his suspect chin. I suspect he has been chasing a career ending payday for a couple of years against Mayweather or Pac, been unsuccessful, and he is no being throw to the wolves for his last big payday.
- HOWEVER, if he does get bashed up, this doesn't harm his name so he can still check out with a loss to Kell Brook

Having said all that, if he pulls it off it will rank with one of the best wins by a British fighter ever.

Golovkin must be absolutely furious!!.

I woke up this morning and my first thought was still disbelief that this fight got made. Big balls by Khan but he's basically just the Cinco de Mayo 2016 version of Josesito Lopez.

Khan doesn't have the ring IQ or defense to do what Floyd or even Lara did.

Khan has 3 months left to invite Jesus in his life ...

Brooks must be pissed really but can not say it.

Kell Brook admits Amir Khan has made a shrewd move in agreeing to fight Saul Alvarez and is still hopeful of a clash in the future.

Khan (31-3-KO19) and IBF world welterweight champion Brook (35-0-KO24) had been involved in lengthy negotiations with a view to clashing at Wembley in the summer, but Khan has signed up elsewhere.

The Bolton fighter, 29, has agreed to take on WBC world middleweight champion 'Canelo' Alvarez (46-1-1-KO32) at a catchweight of 155lbs in Las Vegas on May 7.
Reacting to the news, Brook told Sky Sports News HQ: "I don't know if he's cashing himself in or what but I don't believe he thinks he can win. That's me being honest. He'll lose in that fight.

"They can always come back down and fight the welterweights of the world. If he'd got in with me, which we all expected, I'd definitely end his career.

Him fighting at middleweight against Canelo, he can always say 'the guy was too big for me. I thought this and I thought that.' He can come up with that and drop back down so it's win-win for Khan I think.

"It's [Khan v Brook] always going to be on the table. It's a good move he's done. With the demand we still have to sit down and talk. As much as I'd like to say 'get lost', with the demand from fans all over the world, they'll still want to see that fight."

Next up for Brook is mandatory challenger Kevin Bizier, who he hosts in Sheffield on March 26, live on Sky Sports.

Kell Brook credits Amir Khan for booking Saul Alvarez fight | Boxing News | Sky Sports

Looking at Khan's inactivity since Garcia and some of the questionable performances and opposition, I think this must be a cashing out fight. If Khan was really hungry he would be busier. It makes no sense to take this fight beyond the pay day. All it takes is a Canelo flurry to have Khan on queer street. So strange.