The weight for sure and has to be said up front. Tremendous talent can only compensate so much for the physical, and as we've seen Loma was massive against yet another smaller fighter moving up last fight out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alpha
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The weight for sure and has to be said up front. Tremendous talent can only compensate so much for the physical, and as we've seen Loma was massive against yet another smaller fighter moving up last fight out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alpha
It’ll be Loma walking forward doing the work and he’ll get the decision. It’s hard to get excited for this fight.
I'm excited to see what success an extremely talented (be it smaller and older) fighter like Rigo can have against Loma.
If Rigo pulls this off, he will be a legend. Yes it smacks of desperation from Rigo but credit to him for taking the opportunity.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alpha
Rigo does have the reach advantage over Loma (68 vs 65.5). Both are fast, but is one of them a shade faster.
Teon Kennedy looks to be the biggest fighter Rigo has beaten, and that took a few knockdowns. Rigo always has good balance, counters and body shots that surprise with their timing.
Loma a busy fighter, what can Rigo do against that as he seems used to taking his time.
Taken from twitter. A Rigo routine. Who knows, maybe he watched Rocky films and was inspired.
https://t.co/3jFRU4qJJo
Rigo is going to be ready, willing and able to this. I will be rooting for him to pull this upset.
Good little routine to work on proprioception. Fits perfectly with how he will intend to fight, quick movements and immediate counters.Quote:
Originally Posted by sanatogen
Rigo needs to be scary good the first couple rounds or Loma takes control. If Rigo can make him hesitant though, maybe, just maybe...
This fight just doesn’t excite me. One old inactive man moving up two weight classes, he’ll be on the defensive all night being outworked and losing rounds. This fight is going the distance and it’ll be a snooze unless you’re a fan of seeing Loma taunt a smaller man for 12 rounds.
You are forgetting that Rigo is a highly skilled and awarded boxer which makes this fight very interesting.Quote:
Originally Posted by GaMo
@Master he is a great boxer and probably better than Loma pound for pound but he’s a lot smaller, he’s a lot older and I just don’t think he can keep the Ukrainian off of him. Loma will win it on workrate because he’ll be able to just keep walking forward and throwing punches
You probably are right but the fact that Rigo is willing to take the risk tells me he is confident and taking the biggest and dangerous fights out there. If Rigo pulls this off he will be the best.Quote:
Originally Posted by GaMo
I think you’re going to be upset if you’re rooting for Rigo as I expect Loma to billy and taunt him. Rigo skills will mean he won’t get a beating but he’ll lose Wide I reckon
I think that would be a moral victory for Rigo. I would take that.Quote:
Originally Posted by GaMo
Fuck Moral victories and accepting defeat. Rigo will fancy it. I could be way off here, but I don't see Rigo being a lamb to the slaughter here.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterI think that would be a moral victory for Rigo. I would take that.Quote:
Originally Posted by GaMo
He is very highly skilled and awkward and a great counter puncher. I think he may give Loma (who I think is fantastic btw) a lot to think about and could even make him look a bit silly.
Also , until I see them stood face to face, I'm not overly convinced about this "massive size difference."
Rigo has a reach advantage.
I'm not 100% convinced Rigo will win, but it wouldn't desperately surprise me. I find the fight intriguing and am looking forward to it.
Like I said, I could be way off beam on this one.
The way that Rigo (or one of his team) talk on twitter, they are confident.
People that Rigo has fought that probably belong in Featherweight are Garcia, Teon Kennedy, Jazza Dickens
Rigo either couldn't put them away quickly or at all, so he's go to be looking at dancing for twelve and counterpunching, not letting himself be caught on the ropes or in corners
Bodyshots and headshots from distance, but Rigo is good on the inside as well
Rigo doesn't telegraph punches as much as others, i.e. the glove moves from its position instead of a backward movement first.
Loma has to be discouraged quickly, otherwise as you say, he'll just march forward for 12 rounds moving from side to side swarming Rigo, cutting him down.
You are right, Rigo has no "tell" with his punches and that is why he beats most of his opponents. Donnaire had no clue how to handle him.Quote:
Originally Posted by sanatogen
Great to see it's sold out. The closer the fight gets the more excited I am for this one.
This is a fantastic fight two master boxers a true fight for the purist Rigo is brilliant but he is 36 and a bit on the small side
in this fight Lomo is at the top of his game bigger and younger I favour Lomo cant wait.:)
Loma will make him look silly....Rigo is bad as hell, but Loma is a very special fighter.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
You are probably right but let me live in hope.Quote:
Originally Posted by El KabongLoma will make him look silly....Rigo is bad as hell, but Loma is a very special fighter.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
I think it will be an interesting fight
Rigo looks cut as already in recent pics. We found be in for a treat. Rigo had been known to Stink out the place but I feel Loma's style won't allow that to happen.
I can see Rigo defying the odds and winning a decision, but if I had to put money on one of them, I would for sure pick Loma.
Wow these are my two favourite fighters right now.
But Loma is the more popular guy, the real star in this event, so he'll definately get the decision if it's close. I mean just imagine getting a loss against a "boring" fighter like Rigo.
And also, Go Rigo!
So, in this weeks episode of boxing fuckery,,,,the WBA has decided if Rigo loses this 130 fight he loses his 122 belt. His belt that “is not on the line”
Such complete BS
That’s weird
Yeah that's BS, he only defended it in June, even if that fight was changed to a nc. Has Rigo indicated to them that he won't be returning to 122? I know he has expressed interest in fighting a number of feathers who ran from him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron Swanson
If he wins against Loma he has 5 days to tell them if he will return to 122 or else he’s stripped too. That seems unnecessarily short. Give the guy a month, let him feel for offersQuote:
Originally Posted by AlphaYeah that's BS, he only defended it in June, even if that fight was changed to a nc. Has Rigo indicated to them that he won't be returning to 122? I know he has expressed interest in fighting a number of feathers who ran from him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron Swanson
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Originally Posted by Ron SwansonIf he wins against Loma he has 5 days to tell them if he will return to 122 or else he’s stripped too. That seems unnecessarily short. Give the guy a month, let him feel for offersQuote:
Originally Posted by AlphaYeah that's BS, he only defended it in June, even if that fight was changed to a nc. Has Rigo indicated to them that he won't be returning to 122? I know he has expressed interest in fighting a number of feathers who ran from him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron Swanson
Source?
Yea 5 days is a pretty quick turn around. Rigo had been mucked around so much by the sanctioning bodies, stripping and then reinstated etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanQuote:
Originally Posted by Ron SwansonIf he wins against Loma he has 5 days to tell them if he will return to 122 or else he’s stripped too. That seems unnecessarily short. Give the guy a month, let him feel for offersQuote:
Originally Posted by AlphaYeah that's BS, he only defended it in June, even if that fight was changed to a nc. Has Rigo indicated to them that he won't be returning to 122? I know he has expressed interest in fighting a number of feathers who ran from him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron Swanson
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Not clear on same day weight check, is 138 max rehydration clause? If I'm going by his last fight Loma will be cutting it close. Still think Rigo really needed a fight to wear in the new bulk he's putting on.
From what i understand the fights at 130. 138 is the max both fighters can weigh the morning of the fight @9am. After that I guess its a free for all at the buffet till the night of. Very similar situation to what the GGG /Jacobs situation should've/would've been had Jacobs not blown off the IBF weigh in. Ideally you just start sipping water/sodium or electrolytes after the weigh in so your body takes on the water before your body purges it in that first couple of hours. Your body will need the water to process any food. Small snacks help if you can manage them. (in this case water/electrolytes/ etc will max out at 8lbs) Then after then after the second weigh in transition from snacks/ pedialyte/ Gatorade, chicken stock to small meals so your body can absorb it. It's the only way to keep the food water down in that time frame.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
Starve/drain yourself too much and then stuff yourself after a weigh in will just having you puking into a wastepaper basket like mikey garcia in an elevator and bloating before the JM Lopez fight. Your body knows it doesn't have the water to process the food and starts heaving... any nutrition that does make its way into your body, your body clings to and stores. You lose your titles on the scales and you're weak from all the retching.
Loma tends to come in around 139. I think he'll be fine for this.
Still convinced some of the higher tier guys see the drain coming and not looking for the rehydration done properly. They just choose to take the 10 20k penalty which sounds crazy to working stiffs like ourselves but it's an investment for them to fight 'heavy-healthy' and sure up what are already favorable odds to get to higher stakes and bigger show downs. The pressure actually shifts to the opponent before the bell even rings to agree to terms last minute or bring on cancellation of fight and a rare opportunity they may not get again. Sounds overly simplistic but a contract ensuring a shared weight should be just that no questions or qualifiers need apply. Shaking a few thousand at it or 'losing' a trinket..though retaining rank..seems a slap on the wrist.
This is so true, those fighters in position to lose a few thousand will take that advantage. I'm thinking promoters should have a back up fighter ready like they have in the WBSS, if one guy misses weight he's out, no purse or fight for him. I was thinking a bigger purse penalty but when you get guys like Floyd missing weight for Marquez it's not a huge dent in the wallet. We really need the commissions to step up and start getting strict on some of this sh-t. I'd include the sanctioning bodies but we all know they are basically toothless and for sale to the highest bidder.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
Very interesting match up but I really hope Loma and coax Rigo into more of a fight. I don't want to see these two guys pacing around staring at each other for 12 rounds.
Don't forget the anti doping agencies that are providing vitamin/water IV exemptions (especially those done at a persons house instead of being administered at a hospital). Essentially the rehydration rate seems to be about the same for IV and sipping but the difference is you don't have to be up all night sipping and pissing. So you get to sleep in your own bed while rehydrating and wake up in the morning rehydrated. There's also no worries of retching that comes with gorging yourself.Quote:
Originally Posted by AlphaThis is so true, those fighters in position to lose a few thousand will take that advantage. I'm thinking promoters should have a back up fighter ready like they have in the WBSS, if one guy misses weight he's out, no purse or fight for him. I was thinking a bigger purse penalty but when you get guys like Floyd missing weight for Marquez it's not a huge dent in the wallet. We really need the commissions to step up and start getting strict on some of this sh-t. I'd include the sanctioning bodies but we all know they are basically toothless and for sale to the highest bidder.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
So, Rigo's reward for stepping up in weight to fight one of the best boxers on the planet is that if he loses , he loses his WBA belt, even though he's not defending it! Guys like this getting punished for putting their legacy on the line, while you've inactive fighters like Thurman that would run a mile to avoid some fights being made their Super Champion!
If Rigo does win, in the Press conference after, he should wipe his ass with the fucking belt!