Thousands attend Tommy Robinson demonstration at BBC HQ

And have a word with yourself with that waffly paragraph about Jews. Have I been speaking about Jews? See you do that Hope not Hate thing all the time lumping entire groups of people together based on association rather than ideas. Hate to break it to you but I ain't Brock, Walrus or Lyle or Freedom. You are manipulative, dishonest and I wouldn't put any accusation past you. Meanwhile Panodrama is at 1.3 million on You Tube and a million more on other platforms. Well prior to the ban. Oh, and Watson of Labour has just lost a few million more votes. Bye bye Labour.

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And have a word with yourself with that waffly paragraph about Jews. Have I been speaking about Jews? See you do that Hope not Hate thing all the time lumping entire groups of people together based on association rather than ideas. Hate to break it to you but I ain't Brock, Walrus or Lyle or Freedom. You are manipulative, dishonest and I wouldn't put any accusation past you. Meanwhile Panodrama is at 1.3 million on You Tube and a million more on other platforms. Well prior to the ban. Oh, and Watson of Labour has just lost a few million more votes. Bye bye Labour.

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Then speak for yourself instead of keeping to the party line. You don't talk to people like individuals. You don't engage. When you do post it is to try and start a war and make it all about you and alternating between playing the victim and this personal vindictive nonsense.

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Why bring Freedom into it too? Utterly lame. You are the racist around here Beanster. It drips through every post how conditioned and hateful you are towards great liberal values. Banning people based on made up allegations is nonsense and you support it. You actively endorse lies. You stoop very low.

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Because Freedom is a one man agenda machine. Everything he posts revolves around Jews and liberals, and the myth of Cultural Marxists, and if you are so insistent on defending him then it just shows how biased and twisted your sense of outrage is. Look up 'Tommy persecuted' and there are literally pages and pages of Youtube videos of Tommy making it all about him. Nobody is censoring him but facebook which you have always insisted is for fools and sheep. Youtube comments filled with Idiots boasting they have sent him £200 and no mention of the child rape victims, none of whom were helped by bullshit from him when he exposed nobody. So here you are basically admitting you want like Tommy to play the victim, rather than make sure justice is done.

Look who you are defending Miles. It is beyond parody. You are fucking Alan Partridge in real life. You have no sense of perspective. Don't forget you were the chap excusing Muslim extremists saying the west should expect blowback etc. Nobody else followed you with that bullshit argument either.

The Panorama Doc has not even been aired and here you are like the Jackson family worried about your cash cow idol having to face the consequence of his actions.

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Yes, blowback was to be expected. Of course. I prefer a world with no war and controlled borders but our mutual friend Blair said 'Fuck that...no limits'. An imperial cultual Marxist. If that even makes sense. The architect of the fall of modern Britain. It was nothing to be followed merely a simple explanation of why people blow things up. If I harmed you would you not want to harm me? Of course you would. If is a basic mentality.

Robinsons doc was essentially blocked in the media. Don't pretend otherwise. Don't pretend the media did not just dox his wife Don't pretend Facebook did not lie. Do not pretend that the doc has nothing to do with it all. Robinson has rocked them and the support is worldwide. Even out here people know Robinson and they ask why the UK has done this to itself.

You can pretend that people don't care and that it is all about Robinson but he is just the figurehead. The movement is millions. That is most likely why Facebook closed him down. This is why Watson calls for a You Tube ban. It won't work. All it is leading to is more and more support. UKIP will surge with Labour and Tory both against Brexit. Robinson is a powerful voice bigger than any politician. And all eyes will be on him again.

Still no word on 500 Isis fighters at large, eh? Gotta get the man saying child rape is warped. What a naughty man.

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And have a word with yourself with that waffly paragraph about Jews. Have I been speaking about Jews? See you do that Hope not Hate thing all the time lumping entire groups of people together based on association rather than ideas. Hate to break it to you but I ain't Brock, Walrus or Lyle or Freedom. You are manipulative, dishonest and I wouldn't put any accusation past you. Meanwhile Panodrama is at 1.3 million on You Tube and a million more on other platforms. Well prior to the ban. Oh, and Watson of Labour has just lost a few million more votes. Bye bye Labour.

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Then speak for yourself instead of keeping to the party line. You don't talk to people like individuals. You don't engage. When you do post it is to try and start a war and make it all about you and alternating between playing the victim and this personal vindictive nonsense.

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What war? Haven't you just had a go at Freedom? Didn't you start wars with me? Lyle? Brock? Bilbo? Deluded fucking muppet.

Why should Robinson be banned from Facebook? Answer straight. Did he advocate beheading Muslims? Yes or no? Can you do it? Never.

If Tommy Robinson is your figurehead then you need to take a good long hard look at your life. If you think attacking me as someone who spent 10 years + helping to put pedos behind bars is somehow helping your arguments for a convicted criminal, who risked letting those animals go free, on more than one occasion, then you are clearly need a life. I have never defended Muslim Pedos or Isis members, or any of the rubbish you want to pretend, in order to manufacture an argument.

There is no conspiracy other than one you subscribe too. You are a willing sheep. The so called banned shite excuse for a documentary, is still up in this thread on page two. The persecution you crave to validate you soyboy crush is not there. You made it up. It is the strangest and most twisted of virtual signalling that you have employed to pretend that you and Tommy are victims engaged in a mutual struggle for your five minutes of fame.

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@Beanz Show me the posts that Facebook accuses Robinson of making too. Prove that the ban was justified. Do you support that ban or not? Answer that question with a yes or no and a simple reason. Prove Lyle wrong and see if you can answer a question simply and directly.

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Debates do not work by people demanding anything Miles. All that leads to is running away and embarrassing yourself.Facebook is the not the state Miles. It is a private company with guidelines and rules and Robinson repeatedly broke them. So yes of course that ban is justified. If you want to play around and sit there immersing yourself in conspiracy videos by clearly agenda driven cunts like Rebel Media, I am sure by the end of it you convince yourself that black is white, the earth is flat and the holocaust never happened. You can join Freedom, the absolute bellend of a human being, and live your life believing everything is run by big nosed Jewish people and that opposing extremists is wrong unless it is a far right organization run by a teletubbie, making a fortune from gullible fools.

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And have a word with yourself with that waffly paragraph about Jews. Have I been speaking about Jews? See you do that Hope not Hate thing all the time lumping entire groups of people together based on association rather than ideas. Hate to break it to you but I ain't Brock, Walrus or Lyle or Freedom. You are manipulative, dishonest and I wouldn't put any accusation past you. Meanwhile Panodrama is at 1.3 million on You Tube and a million more on other platforms. Well prior to the ban. Oh, and Watson of Labour has just lost a few million more votes. Bye bye Labour.

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Then speak for yourself instead of keeping to the party line. You don't talk to people like individuals. You don't engage. When you do post it is to try and start a war and make it all about you and alternating between playing the victim and this personal vindictive nonsense.

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What war? Haven't you just had a go at Freedom? Didn't you start wars with me? Lyle? Brock? Bilbo? Deluded fucking muppet.

Why should Robinson be banned from Facebook? Answer straight. Did he advocate beheading Muslims? Yes or no? Can you do it? Never.

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Yes that ban is justified. I answered already despite you just making stuff up.

Facebook seem to have made things up likely under pressure from the authorities and you support it. You support tyranny and fake news. You support Labour whose deputy is currently arguing for You Tube to use a Stalinist approach to Robinson. You were more upset by Robinson than Sweeney. You cheer it all on because you are an ideologue with a hatred for Freedom and British values. Nothing to say about 500 Isis fighters who remain ignored and unknown. Do you think he should be imprisoned for causing anxiety to rapists? Meanwhile Muslim men shout sexual threats at a court and nothing happens. You reveal yourself very well. You lie and accept lies. Yet call others liars. You are a stereotype.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdWahm2z_R0

Excellent interview.

Congratulations Miles you have now basically admitted that you are part of the Tommy Robinson cult. Everything for you, Like Tommeh, is about race, and you do not give a shit about the victims of sexual violence. If you did there is no possible way you could have failed to address this

https://metro.co.uk/2019/02/16/rape-...-post-8647507/

This is the kind of thing his facebook page was full of. He encouraged people to doorstep bullied Syrian kids, harass anyone he felt uncomfortable being questioned by etc for years on end. You are pretending that someone who encouraged his 'Followers/Disciples' to shut down a Rape Crisis center is some kind of role model and figure head. You have swallowed his bullshit whole because you live in an echo chamber

Douglas Murray

Farrage

Bannon

Rebel News

Proud Boys

The Telegraph / James Delingpole

InfoWars / PJW

You lap it up because it is comfortable and cosy and confirms all your deluded prejudices and childish insecurities.

This is your hero and HIS words

Tommy Robinson has boasted about scoring drugs and proclaimed himself “king of the whole Islam race”, in newly emerged footage.
The far-right activist, who has several criminal convictions and in 2014 admitted to possessing 3.48 grams of cocaine with intent to supply, claimed: “No matter where I’ve gone in the world I score … I’ve gone to f***ing Qatar, to Doha, and scored gear on the sesh while they’re all praying. Everywhere mate, every city I’ve gone to.”
A video obtained by The Sun shows Robinson, whose real name is Stephen Yaxley-Lennon, walking down a street in the Italian city of Bologna last month.
He is seen describing a taxi driver as a “little p**i who drives a car”.
In another clip, he sings: “I’m going to punch you in the head, kick you in the face, because I am the king of the whole Islam race.”



Robinson declared himself a Zionist and said that “if there was a war tomorrow, which there will be, because I’ll probably start it at the end of this sesh”, he would fight for Israel, adding: “F*** Palestine.”
“I had to ring Benjamin Netanf***ing blah … I can’t remember his name, and got my Zionist card out and said I am a Zionist and I bought us everything,” he added. “Shalom motherf***er.”
Robinson has visited the country and a pro-Israel think-tank helped fund his legal expenses last year.




https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-a8776991.html



Really weird how you never mentioned this

Great sum up of your phony martyr

What were his grievances? Police claim that Osborne was goaded into action by Tommy Robinson’s posts and videos. Court evidence suggested that it took a month, digesting this material, for him to become obsessed with Muslims. This probably simplifies matters greatly. Nonetheless, it is significant that Robinson termed Osborne’s murderous attack a “revenge attack” and blamed the mosque for “creating terrorists and radical jihadists and promoting hate and segregation.”
Robinson was rationalizing the killing. And he did so in a way characteristic of his rhetoric.
Between 1997 and 2003, the Finsbury Park mosque was under the leadership of Abu Hamza, against the wishes of its trustees and despite legal action on their part. During that time, a number of jihadist cadres were molded at the mosque. A combination of police action, and intervention by Muslim organizations and the Charity Commission, reopened the mosque under new leadership in 2005.
The idea that this mosque, let alone worshippers and anyone who happened to be outside, gave an unemployed Welshman anything to avenge, makes sense only if you make the racist assumption, like Robinson does, that Islam is extreme and all Muslims are extremists.
Nonetheless, the media continued to crave Robinson’s input, with ITV’s “Good Morning Britain” giving him a platform the day after the attack to say that the Quran was an incitement to violence. Not despite the fact that a man inspired by Robinson’s ideology had just been jailed for murder, but because of it.
And again, on the day that Osborne was found guilty, the BBC saw fit to invite Robinson onto Newsnight for yet another softball interview. Again, not despite the fact that a man inspired by his ideology had just been jailed for murder, but because of it. Asking no difficult questions — grotesquely in the circumstances — they handed Robinson a platform to play the martyr.
The extraordinary fact about Tommy Robinson, therefore, is not that a wicked nation has tormented him, but that he receives such docile goodwill from a variety of quarters, above all the broadcasters, despite all that he has said and done.
But he isn’t a martyr, he is a clever fascist. And that isn’t stigmata, it’s blood on his hands.


https://jacobinmag.com/2018/08/tommy...rison-sentence

and this a couple days ago

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-a8807916.html

I do not agree with anybody on everything they say. However, when I see injustice I will call it out and to be fair to that nice chap in the interview above he gave Robinson an honest hearing. That has been absent from the media and yes, I agree with you that they have been the same over Corbyn. I believe there should be a Palestinian state like much of the world does. It is up to Robinson what he feels about Israel. Morrissey too. I disagree. But like with the UK the people are not the politics. I also believe you are completely filled with hatred for Tommy Robinson. That is in itself extremist. For instance do you agree with the doxing of a wife and children by the media? They don't like it when it comes back at them. Even you freaked when Brock Googled you and you are all over the Internet. You cannot have it both ways. The support is immense whence the censorship. You underestimated Robinson. You are seeing he is clever and a step ahead of his enemies.

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I do not agree with anybody on everything they say. However, when I see injustice I will call it out and to be fair to that nice chap in the interview above he gave Robinson an honest hearing. That has been absent from the media and yes, I agree with you that they have been the same over Corbyn. I believe there should be a Palestinian state like much of the world does. It is up to Robinson what he feels about Israel. Morrissey too. I disagree. But like with the UK the people are not the politics. I also believe you are completely filled with hatred for Tommy Robinson. That is in itself extremist. For instance do you agree with the doxing of a wife and children by the media? They don't like it when it comes back at them. Even you freaked when Brock Googled you and you are all over the Internet. You cannot have it both ways. The support is immense whence the censorship. You underestimated Robinson. You are seeing he is clever and a step ahead of his enemies.

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That is the problem. You can believe what you like, but it has little to do with reality. I am not completely filled with hatred for Robinson at all. He is a completely disingenuous fraud who is fleecing his flock like any populist mainstream Evangelist, but most people in Britain are well aware of exactly how much of a tool the guy is, and have no time for his schtick. It is not something that i am somehow unique or strange in thinking. I get that it is very uncomfortable for you to confront the cognitive dissonance that would be needed for you to admit that. It is much easier to paint me as a bogeyman for not sharing your very idealised and naive views.

You keep pretending that he is censored when he is covered by all the msm and your alt-right neo-con rubbish to. All over Youtube, Fox, Brietbart, BBC, EVERY UK newspaper, the list is endless. Look how you are having to argue now that simply not believing a con mans spiel is now evidence of me being an extremist. You are now resorting to again defending an internet stalker in order to pretend that harassment is somehow OK when you or your really fucking weird pals are engaged in it. I am not a public figure I did not ask Brock to track facebook and then drop the names of the places i might have chosen to eat at etc into his posts. That is plain wrong and nothing to do with this thread.

If you think Robinson is clever again you are guilty of self hypnosis. He preys on the gullible and you are turning yourself into that in order to avoid admitting the guy is a twat. ;D

There you go again. Topsy turvy Beanzland. The hate drips through in every syllable. Of course he is censored by the UK media. The UK media barely touched on Panodrama. Yet Robinson being drunk was something they were all over. They only cover something negative and in turn hope to demonize him much as you do with not only him but many a poster over the years. You say Robinson is low but you really scrape the barrel with your own lies and behavior.

You support banning people on things they have not done. You launch invective after invective on someone because he does not follow your narrative, but you notice fewer and fewer people listen to you. You are losing and when bullies lose they have to use force. They cannot take it when it comes back at them either. Notice how quiet the forum is without the BBC or tranny boxing or this? Both topics you hate, yet have the most recent attention. Do it your way and continue to bore and alienate.

And of course Robinson is smart. He has made mistakes like you and I, but he has grown and outfoxes dullards like yourself and the simplistic media day in day out. You think you are smart like when you simplistically dismiss the entire field of psychology, but it shows you as an arrogant doofus.

Finally when you say most people how do you quantify that? He had a million followers on Facebook and more reach than any political elite in the UK. His streams would gather 15-20000 people in minutes. His rallies gathered thousands upon thousands. You live in an echo chamber Beanz. You fail to accept why Facebook banned him. You accept lies and Fake news. That is the hilarious thing about you. His documentary has been seen by about 3 million people. For a man that everyone apparently hates and has such bad press how does he have this support? How can he get these donations? Ask people to donate for your picture of a boot and you will get jack shit because nobody cares about it. Robinson actually is popular and people want to help of their own accord. How do you think he funded his documentary? That is popularity and it is because the message is popular. You are a reactionary fascist yourself with an aversion to democracy and free choice and speech. Thus you support the EU, thus you support Stalinism, you have called for posters to be banned for years. You are an awful person and to top it off you lie constantly like with that statement. Everybody hates him? Go out and do a survey outside of your little weed smoking commie collective. UKIP will do better than you think next time and Labour will struggle. It was their own choice.

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I do not agree with anybody on everything they say. However, when I see injustice I will call it out and to be fair to that nice chap in the interview above he gave Robinson an honest hearing. That has been absent from the media and yes, I agree with you that they have been the same over Corbyn. I believe there should be a Palestinian state like much of the world does. It is up to Robinson what he feels about Israel. Morrissey too. I disagree. But like with the UK the people are not the politics. I also believe you are completely filled with hatred for Tommy Robinson. That is in itself extremist. For instance do you agree with the doxing of a wife and children by the media? They don't like it when it comes back at them. Even you freaked when Brock Googled you and you are all over the Internet. You cannot have it both ways. The support is immense whence the censorship. You underestimated Robinson. You are seeing he is clever and a step ahead of his enemies.

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That is the problem. You can believe what you like, but it has little to do with reality. I am not completely filled with hatred for Robinson at all. He is a completely disingenuous fraud who is fleecing his flock like any populist mainstream Evangelist, but most people in Britain are well aware of exactly how much of a tool the guy is, and have no time for his schtick. It is not something that i am somehow unique or strange in thinking. I get that it is very uncomfortable for you to confront the cognitive dissonance that would be needed for you to admit that. It is much easier to paint me as a bogeyman for not sharing your very idealised and naive views.

You keep pretending that he is censored when he is covered by all the msm and your alt-right neo-con rubbish to. All over Youtube, Fox, Brietbart, BBC, EVERY UK newspaper, the list is endless. Look how you are having to argue now that simply not believing a con mans spiel is now evidence of me being an extremist. You are now resorting to again defending an internet stalker in order to pretend that harassment is somehow OK when you or your really fucking weird pals are engaged in it. I am not a public figure I did not ask Brock to track facebook and then drop the names of the places i might have chosen to eat at etc into his posts. That is plain wrong and nothing to do with this thread.

If you think Robinson is clever again you are guilty of self hypnosis. He preys on the gullible and you are turning yourself into that in order to avoid admitting the guy is a twat. ;D

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Defending an 'Internet stalker' is a nice deflection, but what you totally failed to respond to was another direct question which is something you ALWAYS fail to respond to. I asked is it okay to Dox a wife and children. And I would expand that include knowing all the risks and dangers that involves. You failed to answer that question completely. Your silence speaks a thousand words. Nothing at all in the post above about that. Right? Oops, a direct question. Dangerous ground I know.

It has plenty to do with this thread as you have no opinion when it happens to Robinson. You think he deserves what he gets, you want to take away his free speech, you call him scum and a twat. The mainstream media did that to Robinson and you don't seem to have an opinion, but you who plaster your name and ugly mug all over the Internet had a freak out when Brock randomly searched you.

You want it your way, but are full of double standards.

AND to make my position clear when it comes to stalking, I do not have those double standards. I will state categorically that to reveal the address of someone or come to their home is WRONG. If anyone other than yourself revealed your address or came to your home I would say that is WRONG too. That is my position on the issue, the rules work both way. The left and groups that you seem to be suggesting positive things about do things like this as does the mainstream media and you seem to be silent on those things. Your take on Robinson is no different to extremists that would strip citizenship from people leaving someone stateless which I of course disagree with. Sure you don't like him, but to think only in the extreme is blindness. I have admitted things about Robinson I disagree with. You say nothing that you agree with. You do the same with Peterson, Chomsky, the entire field of Psychology, Robinson etc. Black and white binary thinking. ;)

Right, that's enough on that. I think I have made my point. I know that what will come back is a wall of noise nothing with a bunch of invective and so I will preface now by saying that I have won this exchange. If you cannot answer a question here and there, then you don't know how to have a discussion. Later folks! Back when I feel like as that is my prerogative. :cool:

Tommy is alright. A little radicalism can expand the Overton window. If I were in England I wouldn’t agree with everything he says. We are having some real radical talk from the right wanting the US to move more into socialism. It’s good to help people, increase wages but doing so has shut down numerous small business and it moved then automation at a wicker pace. What u guys do in England is your thing but the US was founded on its main focus being protecting people from the gov and limiting the govs involvement in our lives. Anyway it’s on of those things you can spend years going arguing about. I’d prefer not to live on government hand outs. But hey I’m just one dude.

Miles

Anyone who says

'I have won the exchange'

is very unlikely to be over 12 years of age

and there lies your problem.


People don't want to tune in and watch the Miles show or the Miles and Beanz show, that is the positive thing about the forum changing. You want to draw a parallel between Brock being banned and Tommy being booted of facefook, but you end up having to tie yourself in knots to create your own martyrs.

People are responsible for their own actions. Tommy is not some lone voice activist and you know it. He has the backing a huge globalist right wing network of neoliberal billionaires,organizations and media networks pushing a populist agenda. On top of that he begs for even more money to carry on pushing this idea that he is an innocent victim. You know that he is nothing of the sort.


It's not about me Miles.This is a boxing forum and the thread is about Robinson. I don't beg for money, I earn it. I don't do drugs, Green has nothing to do with weed you fool. I have not plastered myself over the internet either. There are loads of Saddo posters on facebook and we are all just normal regular people. I understand that you have always seen yourself as above the great unwashed, but most of us have no problem or issue with accepting others having different opinions.

All this 'hate drips through every syllable' crap is just projection on your part. He is not your son is he? So why take it so personally?


You never ever could debate. Always about you and your deluded illusions of grandeur, dressed up as drama queen charm. Sad really.

You have lost in every single Robinson thread as all you ever do is parrot lies that you read in your manufactured media. You respond in post after post so it obviously matters to you that your false point of view gets out and it is false. It has been going on for ages now ever since you falsely accused Robinson of pleading guilty (fake news eh Beanz? :))and probably before and definitely after. How do you know what people want? Are these the same British multitudes that hate Tommy Robinson? I do not know what readers of the forum want and neither do I care. I post for myself and have my own agenda. I do not post to please anybody. As do you, though you do rim the Mods rather hard.

You don't beg for money? Fair enough, but I hear stories that you have topped up your income with government help. But hey, we all need to survive. As does Robinson who likely cannot get a regular job now. How do you think he funds his legal cases and documentaries. He deserves every penny he gets.

Why do I take it so personally? I would argue the same back at you. I don't take it personally. I just do not like injustice. Think back to all the adjectives you have cast his way. All of them negative and with vitriol. ;)

You cannot debate and several posters would say the same thing. And of course you have taken drugs. I have no idea why Green would be a reference to drugs but fair enough. LSD is more your thing. You even started a thread about it, but hey, I am not judging. Lots of people take drugs of various kinds. Alcohol being the most common of all.

See I won again. Utter domination. I retire as champion until the next comeback.

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You have lost in every single Robinson thread as all you ever do is parrot lies that you read in your manufactured media. You respond in post after post so it obviously matters to you that your false point of view gets out and it is false. It has been going on for ages now ever since you falsely accused Robinson of pleading guilty (fake news eh Beanz? :))and probably before and definitely after. How do you know what people want? Are these the same British multitudes that hate Tommy Robinson? I do not know what readers of the forum want and neither do I care. I post for myself and have my own agenda. I do not post to please anybody. As do you, though you do rim the Mods rather hard.

You don't beg for money? Fair enough, but I hear stories that you have topped up your income with government help. But hey, we all need to survive. As does Robinson who likely cannot get a regular job now. How do you think he funds his legal cases and documentaries. He deserves every penny he gets.

Why do I take it so personally? I would argue the same back at you. I don't take it personally. I just do not like injustice. Think back to all the adjectives you have cast his way. All of them negative and with vitriol. ;)

You cannot debate and several posters would say the same thing. And of course you have taken drugs. I have no idea why Green would be a reference to drugs but fair enough. LSD is more your thing. You even started a thread about it, but hey, I am not judging. Lots of people take drugs of various kinds. Alcohol being the most common of all.

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You hear stories? ;D

Why don't you just Pm me and ask me?

Why can't Tommy work down the supermarket Miles as you keep telling all the common muck beneath you to do? I have always worked and worked bloody hard to set up my own business with not a penny of government help. Why would that irk you so much? Weird.



LSD? Do you spend all weekend sucking Brockton off or something? He is the only other guy who used to come up with crap like that or accuse posters of being mentally ill.


Tommy pleaded guilty to contempt of court in Leeds. I have already posted this link and it has nothing to do with mainstream media.


It's not fake news it is a matter of public record your fool. Look it up



https://www.thelawpages.com/court-ca...on-23000-1.law

I couldn't give less of a fuck about Tommy Robinson, but just came in here to announce that according to our resident forum Dalai Lama says I'm the only one who rants here.

He said it, so it must be true.

Good thing too..... otherwise this whole Robinson mess, not to mention half a dozen other topics he has a hard-on for, could be mistakenly construed as rants. ;) :D

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He said it, so it must be true.

Good thing too..... otherwise this whole Robinson mess, not to mention half a dozen other topics he has a hard-on for, could be mistakenly construed as rants. ;) :D

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Not really.

I just pointed out how you often insist that everybody is ranting but you. Apparently liking a post was enough to inspire that rant. Even Miles is not ranting that much in this thread, I think he likes to think that I am, because he can't construct an argument, but ranting with any kind of style or passion for anything but cardigans, is probably a bit beyond him.

Amusingly you and Miles both use the whole 'hate drips through every syllable' bullshit argument when replying to any calm salient points I may draw your attention to. You both default to that same fantasy and resort to using it to replace any kind of argument, because I presume you think your anger and self righteous indignation can mean that you too can claim to have 'won the exchange'.


You are welcome to indulge your fantasy, I really could not give a shit.

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I couldn't give less of a fuck about Tommy Robinson, but just came in here to announce that according to our resident forum Dalai Lama says I'm the only one who rants here.

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Good thing too..... otherwise this whole Robinson mess, not to mention half a dozen other topics he has a hard-on for, could be mistakenly construed as rants. ;) :D

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Not really.

I just pointed out how you often insist that everybody is ranting but you. Apparently liking a post was enough to inspire that rant. Even Miles is not ranting that much in this thread, I think he likes to think that I am, because he can't construct an argument, but ranting with any kind of style or passion for anything but cardigans, is probably a bit beyond him.

Amusingly you and Miles both use the whole 'hate drips through every syllable' bullshit argument when replying to any calm salient points I may draw your attention to. You both default to that same fantasy and resort to using it to replace any kind of argument, because I presume you think your anger and self righteous indignation can mean that you too can claim to have 'won the exchange'.


You are welcome to indulge your fantasy, I really could not give a shit.

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So when directing your anger at someone else (me in this instance), you'll grab on to the other guy's arm (Miles in this instance) and comically create a flash, very-temporary alliance... ("Even Miles is not ranting that much in this thread.")

Straight out of kindergarten. Compliment the other guy to make you look better while you redirect your guns in my direction. Why, that's not childish and transparent at all. :rolleyes:

Do you not realize in your "alone moments" how you manage to fight with just about everyone here except for the British Mods?

The saying about rocks and glass houses does NOT do you justice, my angry friend.

In your case you don't bother with rocks. You use howitzers instead, where even the shock waves crack the walls in your own glass house.

Your sterling record stands on its own. It needs no embellishment from me.

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You have lost in every single Robinson thread as all you ever do is parrot lies that you read in your manufactured media. You respond in post after post so it obviously matters to you that your false point of view gets out and it is false. It has been going on for ages now ever since you falsely accused Robinson of pleading guilty (fake news eh Beanz? :))and probably before and definitely after. How do you know what people want? Are these the same British multitudes that hate Tommy Robinson? I do not know what readers of the forum want and neither do I care. I post for myself and have my own agenda. I do not post to please anybody. As do you, though you do rim the Mods rather hard.

You don't beg for money? Fair enough, but I hear stories that you have topped up your income with government help. But hey, we all need to survive. As does Robinson who likely cannot get a regular job now. How do you think he funds his legal cases and documentaries. He deserves every penny he gets.

Why do I take it so personally? I would argue the same back at you. I don't take it personally. I just do not like injustice. Think back to all the adjectives you have cast his way. All of them negative and with vitriol. ;)

You cannot debate and several posters would say the same thing. And of course you have taken drugs. I have no idea why Green would be a reference to drugs but fair enough. LSD is more your thing. You even started a thread about it, but hey, I am not judging. Lots of people take drugs of various kinds. Alcohol being the most common of all.

See I won again. Utter domination. I retire as champion until the next comeback.

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You hear stories? ;D

Why don't you just Pm me and ask me?

Why can't Tommy work down the supermarket Miles as you keep telling all the common muck beneath you to do? I have always worked and worked bloody hard to set up my own business with not a penny of government help. Why would that irk you so much? Weird.



LSD? Do you spend all weekend sucking Brockton off or something? He is the only other guy who used to come up with crap like that or accuse posters of being mentally ill.


Tommy pleaded guilty to contempt of court in Leeds. I have already posted this link and it has nothing to do with mainstream media.


It's not fake news it is a matter of public record your fool. Look it up



https://www.thelawpages.com/court-ca...on-23000-1.law

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You say things to people in pm's saying just that. Either you are lying or they are, but either way it is interesting watching you squirm. I have a business registered out here too, but don't really bother with it having the ability to get a normal job. But yeah, I see why you would as you cannot work with people very well and like to be up at 3am.

Are you now calling supermarket workers common muck? That is rather condescending like when you said 'Why would you aim so low?' when it comes to supermarket work. You sound a bit like John Sweeney now. I think supermarket work is steady and honest. I don't look down on anyone who works in a supermarket. That's all you.

The LSD story. You really don't remember starting a thread talking about that? Others do as do I, so it is not a collective hallucination. Maybe you were still on it when you started the thread. Either way, how you get your kicks is your business. Brock did not come up with that, it was definitely you.

So, it says about Robinson and if so I take that back. But by the same token, so did the authorities by releasing him. He did not carry out any contempt of court as he followed all the procedures following training by a top law firm.

A normal job? Ha! You are fucking reaching now Miles. I don't have to justify my business to you, you prat. Why don't you email and ask me if it pains you so much? It's almost as though you would rather belive a fantasy version of Beanz as bogeyman.

You seem incredibly insecure to give a fuck a bout not only what my work involves, but at what time of the day it happens.

Tommy may well be back inside by the end of the month. And of course your apology is accepted.

Dayum, I didn't even realise Tommy was still going through this prison lark, he's got 2 years this time. How you feeling, miles?

Tommy Robinson guilty of contempt of court for filming at grooming trial


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Dayum, I didn't even realise Tommy was still going through this prison lark, he's got 2 years this time. How you feeling, miles?

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How am I feeling. If you mean in the general, I am feeling fine. However, if you mean how do I feel about this verdict? I believe it is absurd, harsh, and as usual deflects from the real issues that the establishment appears to have no answers for. The BBC and others have done exactly the same things as Robinson. Exactly the same. However, there is no equal punishment for them. It is a political decision and designed to send a message. The UK has fallen tremendously in recent decades and rather face up to the problems, the system is reacting in order to respond to those who speak up about the problems.

Everything about Robinson is a stitch up from previous sentencing, to his social media blackout (Facebook has NEVER revealed the data alleged to have been sent by him), to the response to being attacked, now to this. All it will do is energize and radicalize and people who do support Robinson will find their support in turn grow too. It's a very interesting juncture. I have no faith in the British legal system though and think it is like many legal systems around the world in that decisions often make little sense beyond the political. 2 years in prison for this is probably more time than people get for far more serious crimes. The crime is that he has challenged authority and like in other authoritarian countries that is deemed unacceptable.

I feel mostly for Robinson of course and his wife and his children especially must be devastated that their Dad is once again being taken away for really doing very little at all. This is what radicalizes people. Instead of listening and accepting that he has a point they attempt to shut him down entirely. It is wrong because he does have a point. You do not open your borders to cultures who cannot adapt to your values.

The point was once again proven by a man stabbing Londoners precisely because they are British just last week. It would not happen if people were doing serious tests and analysis on anyone coming in. Can you adapt and fit in and if not then the door is closed. Won't work? Then get out. Break the law, then no prison. Back to where you came from. Far too soft and Robinson is not to blame. It is just seen as easier to deal with him as his supporters are mostly peaceful.

Here's the man.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kivA_jbq3-0

No, I will be honest. I am actually very angry. How can one be patriotic knowing that you can physically attack someone and the police do nothing, but you ask a sex criminal a question then you spend 2 years in prison? What kind of system is that? The BBC asked Robinson a question in the same way. The media has done the same thing numerous times. Two years in prison is deplorable. I would like it if Trump would give asylum to Robinson and his family and to carry on the resistance from a place of safety. His life is in permanent danger in the UK anyway and it is no life for them. He cannot protect them in prison. They need asylum, unlike scores of others who are just fleeing poverty, these are people who have had their lives threatened constantly for years. They need to be free from this.

Did you just compare the millionaire Tommy Robinson, filming arrested men and broadcasting them to his fans before the convictions of their mates in linked trials, who has a foreign holiday in the sun several times a year and earns thousands of pounds a month, with a penniless Asylum seeker that may have fled thousands of miles from a country literally flattened by bombs and the ravages of war, torture and the death of their kids and extended family because they spoke out against a dictators death squads.

Or did you just mean people who left their country because they can earn a lot more money for working a lot less hours elsewhere.

Use you anger wisely mate it's not infinite.

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Did you just compare the millionaire Tommy Robinson, filming arrested men and broadcasting them to his fans before the convictions of their mates in linked trials, who has a foreign holiday in the sun several times a year and earns thousands of pounds a month, with a penniless Asylum seeker that may have fled thousands of miles from a country literally flattened by bombs and the ravages of war, torture and the death of their kids and extended family because they spoke out against a dictators death squads.

Or did you just mean people who left their country because they can earn a lot more money for working a lot less hours elsewhere.

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Yes, I did. Robinson has received thousands of death threats and if you were in his position you would shit yourself having shat yourself over Brock alone coming to see you. At this moment in time I would politely ask you to pull your own neck back in. There are a lot of very angry people out there. When a man is being sent to prison for doing nothing more than what the BBC itself does, then there is something wrong and people will get upset. I would much rather have a million Tommy Robinson's than the kind of people who sexually molest children or want to bring in their own system of law. Sorry, but that is just the way I am.

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Did you just compare the millionaire Tommy Robinson, filming arrested men and broadcasting them to his fans before the convictions of their mates in linked trials, who has a foreign holiday in the sun several times a year and earns thousands of pounds a month, with a penniless Asylum seeker that may have fled thousands of miles from a country literally flattened by bombs and the ravages of war, torture and the death of their kids and extended family because they spoke out against a dictators death squads.

Or did you just mean people who left their country because they can earn a lot more money for working a lot less hours elsewhere.

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Yes, I did. Robinson has received thousands of death threats and if you were in his position you would shit yourself having shat yourself over Brock alone coming to see you. At this moment in time I would politely ask you to pull your own neck back in. There are a lot of very angry people out there. When a man is being sent to prison for doing nothing more than what the BBC itself does, then there is something wrong and people will get upset. I would much rather have a million Tommy Robinson's than the kind of people who sexually molest children or want to bring in their own system of law. Sorry, but that is just the way I am.

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I have never even for one second been afraid of anyone like Brock and I am not a convicted criminal am I? Unlike Tommy I have actually actively worked hard in helping to secure the convictions of people that sexually molest children and would never stupidly risk causing a mistrial by breaking the laws of the country I live in. To use the suffering of others to grandstand and make money is despicable.


He Broke the law, blatantly and knowingly.

He has never exposed one Pedo let alone convict one.

It is always about ethnicity , religion and race from him. He could not even spot the pedos in his own organisation and certainly never tried to broadcast from their trials.

Most Muslims are not pedos, just as most white people are not and yet you want to believe that they are in order to justify your own blatant bigotry. That might make you feel uncomfortable but it is the truth. Even Tommies supporters have admitted it is all a money making exercise for him.

You are just miffed because I pointed out the hypocrisy of you being an economic migrant who moved to a country to better your standard of living and yet you have nothing but vitriol and bile stored up for those who did the same coming to the UK. You will then say you did it legally, invoking the law when you think it makes you morally superior, and yet conveniently ignoring it in order to pretend Tommy is somehow a victim.

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Did you just compare the millionaire Tommy Robinson, filming arrested men and broadcasting them to his fans before the convictions of their mates in linked trials, who has a foreign holiday in the sun several times a year and earns thousands of pounds a month, with a penniless Asylum seeker that may have fled thousands of miles from a country literally flattened by bombs and the ravages of war, torture and the death of their kids and extended family because they spoke out against a dictators death squads.

Or did you just mean people who left their country because they can earn a lot more money for working a lot less hours elsewhere.

Use you anger wisely mate it's not infinite.

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Yes, I did. Robinson has received thousands of death threats and if you were in his position you would shit yourself having shat yourself over Brock alone coming to see you. At this moment in time I would politely ask you to pull your own neck back in. There are a lot of very angry people out there. When a man is being sent to prison for doing nothing more than what the BBC itself does, then there is something wrong and people will get upset. I would much rather have a million Tommy Robinson's than the kind of people who sexually molest children or want to bring in their own system of law. Sorry, but that is just the way I am.

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I have never even for one second been afraid of anyone like Brock and I am not a convicted criminal am I? Unlike Tommy I have actually actively worked hard in helping to secure the convictions of people that sexually molest children and would never stupidly risk causing a mistrial by breaking the laws of the country I live in. To use the suffering of others to grandstand and make money is despicable.


He Broke the law, blatantly and knowingly.

He has never exposed one Pedo let alone convict one.

It is always about ethnicity , religion and race from him. He could not even spot the pedos in his own organisation and certainly never tried to broadcast from their trials.

Most Muslims are not pedos, just as most white people are not and yet you want to believe that they are in order to justify your own blatant bigotry. That might make you feel uncomfortable but it is the truth. Even Tommies supporters have admitted it is all a money making exercise for him.

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How many pedo gangs were of Asian descent and Muslims open your fucking eyes dip shit you stupid git.
Man you could polish a turd over 80 gangs just read the times brushed under table for years why because not to upset racial harmony you left wing fucking idiot.

A reporter in the Times highlighted Asian pedo gangs about at lest 9 years ago.
But it was sweeped under the carpet over 80 gangs truly a bunch of disgusting individuals
the powers that be turned a blind eye to the problem theses people who committed theses acts have very little regards for young white girls imagine a bunch of white guy doing the same thing to young Asian girls.
Fuck we would here about every week would would we not.!
Robinson maybe a ass hole but he did tell some truths that were unpalatable for some
the truth hurt does it not.!

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You are just miffed because I pointed out the hypocrisy of you being an economic migrant who moved to a country to better your standard of living and yet you have nothing but vitriol and bile stored up for those who did the same coming to the UK. You will then say you did it legally, invoking the law when you think it makes you morally superior, and yet conveniently ignoring it in order to pretend Tommy is somehow a victim.

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There is no hypocrisy. I believe every country has a need for some LIMITED migration to fill shortfalls in a labour market, but that it should be yearly renewable visas and nothing more. Break the law, then out you go. It is as simple as that.

My vitriol is only for the unchecked numbers going into the UK thus changing the culture forever. Do you see me as a migrant telling the local populace that they need to build special Churches to worship me? Do you see me pushing sex education for children? Do you see me preaching on the street that we need to have the Queen as head of state? Nope, you find that unlike all most of those millions of economic migrants I married and settled into the culture and thus there is no breaking up of the social fabric. Many are probably lovely people, but do they accept and respect British values first? It is an interesting question.

What has gone wrong in the UK is you have not paid attention to cultural differences and instead of encouraging integration have ignored it. Thus few Muslims are marrying English girls and changing their own values. As you can see, I have adopted many of the values here whence my views on border control, whence my views on family structure, welfare states etc. I am a good example of how it should be.

Do you know how many teacher grooming gangs there have been out here? Yes, that is right. Zero. No mass groups of men grooming young children. It does not happen as everyone is carefully regulated.

I am only upset that a man is going to prison for doing very little. I would quite like every migrant to go to Plymouth and a few years later I will put up the billboards myself saying "Your local photographer wanted this, so buy him a beer! Cheers!" A bit like that Lost in Translation billboard there will be a picture of me giving a wry wink.

It is you encouraging it all. It is you voting for the EU. It is you demonising anyone who wants to maintain any semblance of traditionalism. It is you seeing more Nazi's than there are and turning a blind eye to what Robinson is actually talking about.

And if you would like to crunch data on migration from beyond the EU, we can indeed do that. It costs tens of billions in welfare, prison support, healthcare, and so on to fund it, so those people might be seeking a better life, but on the whole the numbers show that all it is doing is costing the British tax payer a lot of money. Is that money you have? Perhaps the welfare state needs to be revised and those willing to pay for migrants who cannot pay their way can volunteer their money? That way the lefties who want to help everyone can pay for it themselves. Make it into more of a charity than a forced cultural experiment that also robs everyone else of their resources. You want the cake and to eat it all. How about you make your own cake? So if you want to bring me up, how much do you think I have taken and how much do you think I have put in? I am always able to pay my way and of course am insured privately as well as contributing every month nationally. My friend is here on his 11th yearly visa and one mistake and home he has to go. The UK should really have had a similar system considering the 'diversity' of cultures coming in. It would save the prison system a fortune. There are grooming gang members that the government is just unable to send back to Pakistan. Do you know how much it costs to keep someone in prison? I think you should pay for that as it is you willing to accept the bad apples for every well picked tree, but your orchards frankly go on forever. So it is frankly a ludicrous position to hold.