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Usyk revealed the advice former Ukrainian world champions Wladimir and Vitali have given him ahead of his clash with Fury.
"I have been talking to both of them, of course," Usyk said of the legendary siblings. "Wladimir supports me with advice about the sport and the techniques and Vitali supports me with advice about life and the sport, of course. I listen to it carefully and I decide what to use. Me and my team determine the strategy.”
"I've been coming for Fury for a long time and we've been watching him since he's fought as an amateur and later a professional. Since when I fought at cruiserweight, I've been watching him," Usyk added.
"Fury is hurling insults at me, but I know what to do in the ring. If I pay attention to anybody who's trying to offend me, I will feed my anger. Rage doesn't help when fighting, it just worsens the condition.
"I'm motivated by the opportunity to fight this giant. Though there are some people who are not so optimistic in my chances, it has no matter for me. I'm doing my job. I choose my way as a samurai does. The way consists of many objectives, but the essence is your way that you have to make."
https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/boxin...-fury-28757071
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TYSON FURY claimed he will earn DOUBLE the money to fight Oleksandr Usyk than he would get against Anthony Joshua.
He told iFL TV: "That's the bigger fight, in terms of money, 100 per cent, probably double the amount.
"I'll earn double the amount from Usyk than I will from the other sausage.
"If it was going to happen it would have happened in December, 100 per cent.
"I'm looking to fight Usyk, Joshua's nemesis, the man who's got AJ's kryptonite, who made him cry after the fight like a little girl. 'I'm 18 stone', so? I'm 20 stone. I'll beat him.
"I'll take that little sausage out, he ain't got no kryptonite to me, he's f*** all to me. He's a little f***er, and I'm going to make him dance.
"We'll see how good he is, I'll show you how a proper, proper Englishman does to a little mush when I get him in there, get up!"
https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/20812...nthony-joshua/
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And Arum, 91, who has promoted Fury since 2019, has now insisted Fury and Usyk are on a collision course to fight in the coming months.
He said: "The two fighters have agreed to fight each other next.
"With Fury and Usyk we're dealing with two adults, not a lot of [rubbish] back and forth.
"Usyk is a good friend of mine, he's very intelligent and Tyson is Superman, both as an athlete and as an intellect.
"So they want the fight. Both of them want the fight and so there'll be very little, if any, [messing] around.
"So we'll be able to make that happen. I'm very, very confident.
"As I said the fighters have both agreed to fight each other next without any interim fights."
"Now the question is what's the date and what's the site. But that fight is definitely going to happen and it will happen in the first four months of next year.
"We are balancing a couple of significant offers from the Mid East and also there's the possibility of doing the fight in the UK at Wembley [stadium] with a massive 95,000 crowd in attendance.
"Fighters have a relatively short life and money is important.
"So if the money which has been proposed to us is real that has to be taken into consideration.
"To go back to Wembley and do a fight before 95,000 people for me really stirs up the blood. It would be crazy. It would just be wonderful."
He then finished: "We'll have it all sorted out. I hope maybe by the end of the year."
https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/20820...ht-undisputed/
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Arum is 91? Don King must be about that age too. Let's let those two go at it for a three rounder
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Fury’s UK co-promoter Warren told talkSPORT Drive: “Both fighters absolutely want it.
“The managers and promoters all want it, so we’re just getting it together and working out where we’re gonna put it on – that’s really the situation.
“It’s gotta go on by March and so we’ve gotta all move quickly so over the next couple of weeks we will or we won’t get it sorted out.
“But everybody wants to do the fight, absolutely want to do it.”
Talk then turned to PPV (pay-per-view) price as Warren was asked how this is determined.
There was a fair amount of controversy when Fury’s last outing against Derek Chisora matched the UK record at £27.95 on BT Sport.
This price had only ever been seen previously for Anthony Joshua’s rematch with Usyk a few months prior.
“It depends what the structure of the deal is,” Warren explained.
“If they [the broadcaster] put up some sort of guarantees, then they’re looking to recover their guarantees, which will determine the price.
“If there isn’t a guarantee and it’s done on a share basis, then again that determines what the price will be.”
Regarding whether a potential Fury vs Usyk fight would see the price increase further, Warren said: “Oh yeah. With the four belts on the line – without discussing it with anyone, yeah, I’m sure the price will go up.
“The same as if Tyson would have fought Anthony Joshua, the price would go up. They are the two big money fights.”
https://talksport.com/sport/boxing/1...nthony-joshua/
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february twenty fifth sounds about right for tyson v oleksandr
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february twenty fifth sounds about right for tyson v oleksandr
As long as it gets made next, that is all that matters.
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Irish boxing legend Barry McGuigan talked up underdog Usyk's chances.
He told The Mirror: "Fury relies on his size and intimidation.
"But Usyk does not scare easily. The way he stared down Fury at the Chisora fight told us that.
“Usyk was too good for Joshua, who improved considerably in the second fight.
"Joshua is a decent attacking fighter too, better than Fury on the front foot.
“Fury is essentially a boxer-fighter. He rarely comes forward until he has to. Speed is the issue.
"Usyk is not only a southpaw who moves brilliantly and takes a shot, he has epic speed.
"I think this is a much tougher fight for Fury than he thinks it is. And, like Joshua, he could be in for a rude awakening.”
https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/20855...nthony-joshua/
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Maybe usyk can become the Michael spinks or the Billy Conn and shock fury, as con almost did and as Michael spinks did twice
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Irish boxing legend Barry McGuigan talked up underdog Usyk's chances.
He told The Mirror: "Fury relies on his size and intimidation.
"But Usyk does not scare easily. The way he stared down Fury at the Chisora fight told us that.
“Usyk was too good for Joshua, who improved considerably in the second fight.
"Joshua is a decent attacking fighter too, better than Fury on the front foot.
“Fury is essentially a boxer-fighter. He rarely comes forward until he has to. Speed is the issue.
"Usyk is not only a southpaw who moves brilliantly and takes a shot, he has epic speed.
"I think this is a much tougher fight for Fury than he thinks it is. And, like Joshua, he could be in for a rude awakening.”
https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/20855...nthony-joshua/
Both Fury and Usyck can fight who they want, when they want, for top dollar, which they both deserve. Hopefully if they ever meet it will be for a world record fee for them both and good luck to them. By comparison the rest of the division is crap.
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Irish boxing legend Barry McGuigan talked up underdog Usyk's chances.
He told The Mirror: "Fury relies on his size and intimidation.
"But Usyk does not scare easily. The way he stared down Fury at the Chisora fight told us that.
“Usyk was too good for Joshua, who improved considerably in the second fight.
"Joshua is a decent attacking fighter too, better than Fury on the front foot.
“Fury is essentially a boxer-fighter. He rarely comes forward until he has to. Speed is the issue.
"Usyk is not only a southpaw who moves brilliantly and takes a shot, he has epic speed.
"I think this is a much tougher fight for Fury than he thinks it is. And, like Joshua, he could be in for a rude awakening.”
https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/20855...nthony-joshua/
Both Fury and Usyck can fight who they want, when they want, for top dollar, which they both deserve. Hopefully if they ever meet it will be for a world record fee for them both and good luck to them. By comparison the rest of the division is crap.
I agree. The division is total crap. For example, AJ sucks lemons. If the division even had a Razor Ruddock, Ray Mercer, or a Tommy Morrison these days, AJ would be out of boxing by now. Called it years ago. Joshua is a joke.
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As such, Fury vs Usyk is increasingly likely to go ahead next – and with all the titles on the line – as key figures in negotiations target a March fight date.
“We are all looking at March, and everybody is really up for getting this done, and we are all really positive it will get done,” Warren told Talksport on Tuesday (10 January).
“There’s still lots of things to be sorted out, but I genuinely believe this will happen.
“It’s good the IBF yesterday knocked out they were going to have their mandatory, they cancelled it. Everything is looking positive for it.”
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/sport/boxi...fa9b84c72539b7
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thanks - after reading that I'm convinced this fight will be scheduled very soon
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thanks - after reading that I'm convinced this fight will be scheduled very soon
It will happen, do not know why it has to take so long, both fighters want it to become undisputed heavyweight champion of the world. It will cement their legacy as the best in our time.
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Arum has now revealed that he is waiting for an offer from Saudi Arabia to stage the fight in the Middle East.
The veteran promoter has given them until the end of this week to come forward. If they don't, he has indicated that Wembley is the next most likely venue for the undisputed bout, but "talks about percentages" would need to take place.
"The fighters have agreed to fight," Arum said.
"I spoke to Frank Warren. We're giving them until [this] week to come with their offer, which I believe we'll get.
"If we don't, then we're gonna do the fight at Wembley. And then we'd have to talk about the percentages because Usyk wants 50-50. "That's not right if the fight's at Wembley because there will be 95,000 Brits at the fight and big Brit pay-per-view money, so Tyson deserves the lion's share. "But we don't get to that point if the [investors in Saudi Arabia] come through, because the way they operate is they make deals with each of the fighters. "We've been led to believe that they're going to come with a proposal [this] week. I'll believe it when I see it, but it's not like they haven't come through in the past."
'A final draft of the paperwork isn't ready' despite the bout being pencilled in for March/April. The report adds that that 'hold-up stems from a trio of events', which are the fight venue, purse split and 'dates in the Pay-Per-View calendar'.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/sport/boxi...c664ee43b35208
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"Tyson Fury and Oleksandr Usyk remain in talks for an undisputed heavyweight title fight being targeted for April 29, sources told ESPN. Usyk closed his side of the deal with the Saudis and now Fury must. If not, the fight could head to Wembley. Ramadan ends on April 21," Coppinger tweeted.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/sport/boxi...359e362abf148a
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Fury should accept the 50/50 split. It is fair and I will be very disappointed if the fight does not happen.
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Fury should accept the 50/50 split. It is fair and I will be very disappointed if the fight does not happen.
I agree. Both fighters are at the same level of prestige for their weight classes and there is no reason why Tyson fury should be asking for more than 50%.. I think that usyk is going to prove more trouble than people realize but at the same time I don't think he is going to be able to take the monster shot from the big man. I mean he did take a couple of AJ's power right hand very well, but AJ just can't put his punches together like Tyson fury can. I think that oosac will tire from getting leaned on and mugged and by about the 8th of the 9th round the big man is going to finish the job
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Fury should accept the 50/50 split. It is fair and I will be very disappointed if the fight does not happen.
I agree. Both fighters are at the same level of prestige for their weight classes and there is no reason why Tyson fury should be asking for more than 50%.. I think that usyk is going to prove more trouble than people realize but at the same time I don't think he is going to be able to take the monster shot from the big man. I mean he did take a couple of AJ's power right hand very well, but AJ just can't put his punches together like Tyson fury can. I think that oosac will tire from getting leaned on and mugged and by about the 8th of the 9th round the big man is going to finish the job
Totally agree should be 50/50 both have bin there done that, and Usyck has more alphabets than Tyson. This fight is the current day epitomy of what top class prof heavyweights should be doing, and shouldn't be thrown away due to cash issues.
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Frank Warren is hoping the unification fight happens.
"The negotiations have been very drawn out and long which has been frustrating. There are still a few issues to iron out yet," he continued when discussing how close Fury vs Usyk is to being finalised. "If it's going to happen it will happen on April 29, but we will have to wait and see. Tyson will want to fight on that date and I'm hoping we don't have to go down the route of finding him an alternative opponent."
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/sport/boxi...3f05eb87&ei=98
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It will be interesting to see how Usyk's plan plays out and if he can achieve his goals before retiring. It will be a great way to end his career and cement his legacy as one of the greatest boxers of all time.
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Oleksandr Usyk has declared that the undisputed heavyweight title fight with Tyson Fury must be made.
"I need this fight and that's it. I think he needs it too. This fight is very important for both of us," Usyk told The Overlap.
"All four belts haven't been held by one person," Usyk said, pointing out it has been two decades since the heavyweight division had an undisputed champion.
"So both of us need this fight."
He does expect Fury to be even more of a challenge than Joshua. "Yes of course, he has a different style," Usyk said. "Fury is more audacious."
"I'm not afraid of Tyson Fury," the Ukrainian declared. "This will be like any other fight. It's just a big man who has never lost before against a man who has the WBC belt.
"Of course it's possible to get carried away but actually this is a normal fight for the right to win all the belts.
"If a person is bigger than me, it doesn't mean they're stronger than me. If they have longer arms, it doesn't mean that it will be an advantage.
"I've been boxing since I was 15 years old. They kept telling me that I shouldn't be boxing. They told me that I wouldn't become an Olympic champion or a world champion and that I shouldn't have switched to the heavyweight division.
"But these were opinions from people who couldn't do it themselves. Personally I keep praying and move forward. I don't worry about whether I will reach my destination.
"It's like a samurai. He doesn't have an aim, he has his path. I have my path too."
He is inspired by his country's fight to resist the Russian invasion. He served in the Ukrainian defence force at the beginning of the all-out war last year and now represents Ukraine through his sport.
"I'm boxing for everyone who is defending our country right now and in the memory of those warriors who are no longer with us," he said.
"Also for all those who want to be free and who stood for their country against those who came to conquer us."
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/sport/boxi...c2332b75&ei=99
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Frank Warren told talkSPORT: "We're still none the wiser.
"You need the agreement of both boxers to make it happen and at the moment we haven't got that."
Warren admits the purse split is a major sticking point over the first undisputed title fight in over a quarter of a century.
He said: “I have a pot and out of that pot I can only pay what’s in it.
"And if it’s not enough money the fight won’t happen, at the end of the day we’re running a business."
But he insists he's doing everything in his power to get the fight over the line, adding: “We’re working hard to make it happen.
“And, with the greatest respect, I didn’t ring talkSPORT to do an interview about it, you rang me.
“So, out of courtesy I’m telling you where we are, but I’m not going to be conducting negotiations at the moment they’re confidential between the two parties.
“But, I would say it’s not going to go past the end of this week that’s for sure because the proposed date is April 29."
He continued: "No one wants to see this fight more than me, no one has ever promoted the four belts, it’s never happened.
"So it’s history-making.
"I want it, but I can’t force people into a situation unless they’re comfortable.”
https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/21623...-fight-update/
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tyson v oleksandr isn't happening next is it?
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tyson v oleksandr isn't happening next is it?
Does not look like it will happen and I have to blame Tyson Fury. :(
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Really is quite clear, one man wants the fight and one man does not. Literally ALL the cards on the table to be decided for heavyweight legacy to be had...but we sit there and watch Fury and Wilder tickle each other's low hanging fruit in Dubai. It's embarrassing.
They're doing 4...aren't they :p.
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tyson v oleksandr isn't happening next is it?
Does not look like it will happen and I have to blame Tyson Fury. :(
Well usyk is making the outrageous demand of wanting a 50/50 split..... Actually you might be right...
Not many like Wladimir but he gave sultan and Haye 50/50 splits to get titles unified, these guys could learn from him
Wait Wilder fury four isn't happening is it...might as well do fury Chisora four too :S
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tyson v oleksandr isn't happening next is it?
Does not look like it will happen and I have to blame Tyson Fury. :(
Well usyk is making the outrageous demand of wanting a 50/50 split..... Actually you might be right...
Not many like Wladimir but he gave sultan and Haye 50/50 splits to get titles unified, these guys could learn from him
Wait Wilder fury four isn't happening is it...might as well do fury Chisora four too :S
I do not understand why Fury will not take the fight. This may be a once in a career opportunity to unify the division against a blown up middleweight. It is a relatively easier fight than Wilder. Money does not matter to Tyson Fury and it is all about legacy for him.
What is going on with him?
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tyson v oleksandr isn't happening next is it?
Does not look like it will happen and I have to blame Tyson Fury. :(
Well usyk is making the outrageous demand of wanting a 50/50 split..... Actually you might be right...
Not many like Wladimir but he gave sultan and Haye 50/50 splits to get titles unified, these guys could learn from him
Wait Wilder fury four isn't happening is it...might as well do fury Chisora four too :S
I do not understand why Fury will not take the fight. This may be a once in a career opportunity to unify the division
against a blown up middleweight. It is a relatively easier fight than Wilder. Money does not matter to Tyson Fury and it is all about legacy for him.
What is going on with him?
1. you have truly sucked up every word Fury has said , haven't you ? If i didn't know better , i would suspect that you're a "Fury alt" account! And as for this "Blown up MW" nonsense, absolute horseshit!
2. Money is EVERYTHING to Tyson Fury. Tell me a traveller that it doesn't mean anything to?
3. He's fucking bottling it , that's what's going on. not "scared bottling it" , more "knowing he'll get beat kind of bottling it." Try getting your head out of Fury's ass and you'll see things a lot clearer.
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tyson v oleksandr isn't happening next is it?
Does not look like it will happen and I have to blame Tyson Fury. :(
Well usyk is making the outrageous demand of wanting a 50/50 split..... Actually you might be right...
Not many like Wladimir but he gave sultan and Haye 50/50 splits to get titles unified, these guys could learn from him
Wait Wilder fury four isn't happening is it...might as well do fury Chisora four too :S
I do not understand why Fury will not take the fight. This may be a once in a career opportunity to unify the division
against a blown up middleweight. It is a relatively easier fight than Wilder. Money does not matter to Tyson Fury and it is all about legacy for him.
What is going on with him?
1. you have truly sucked up every word Fury has said , haven't you ? If i didn't know better , i would suspect that you're a "Fury alt" account! And as for this "Blown up MW" nonsense, absolute horseshit!
2. Money is EVERYTHING to Tyson Fury. Tell me a traveller that it doesn't mean anything to?
3. He's fucking bottling it , that's what's going on. not "scared bottling it" , more "knowing he'll get beat kind of bottling it." Try getting your head out of Fury's ass and you'll see things a lot clearer.
Colour fonts? That's new from you.
For the first point I was being sarcastic and using Tyson's own words against him.
For your second point, money means everything to all people regardless of their background.
For your third point and as I have already said Fury would beat Usyk. So do not know why his delay to the fight.
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TYSON FURY has "turned down" a 60/40 to the winner deal to fight Oleksandr Usyk in April, the Ukrainian's team claim.
The duo are targeting a historic heavyweight unification bout.
The huge fight could take place on British soil at Wembley Stadium, with an April 29 date being targeted.
But Usyk's promoter Alex Krassyuk has bemoaned the demands of Fury's camp.
Speaking to talkSPORT, he said: "Frank Warren said he's got a pot and he needs to get the agreement of both parties to participate, and if the money in the pot is not enough it won’t happen.
"I completely agree with it. On our side, we have nothing more to add.
"We are not asking for a figure, we are asking for a split and probably the split doesn’t work well if someone is asking for a figure, and I can definitely say that it’s not our party.
"We have said that we want this fight to happen as much as possible and we are in the position to share whatever the fight generates.
"If it generates a lot, then we are happy to share it. If it doesn’t, it is what it is.
"But it’s all about the glory, it’s all about the legacy, it’s all about the huge thing, the fight has never happened before so we are really thirsty to make it happen.
"But boxing is a sport of two men and if only Usyk gets into the ring, there won’t be a match for undisputed. It will be shadowboxing of the unified champion.
"What can I say? We are open, we are ready to go, maybe someone wants to avoid the danger and to stay in a comfortable position. I don’t know and I really don’t care.
"If Tyson doesn’t show up, we still have the belts and we go our way."
On their exact demands, Krassyuk added: "We initially agreed for 50/50. But then Tyson was asking for some bigger money.
"So we made it clear that we are ready to go 60/40, but the winner takes 60. That was our latest offer."
Asked to clarify if Team Fury had turned that offer down, Krassyuk confirmed: "Yes, exactly."
Despite difficulties getting the deal over the line, Krassyuk remains "optimistic" that the fight will be made.
He concluded: "I am experienced and I’ve been here for a while. Normally when a fighter does not want to take a fight, he asks for something impossible so it doesn’t take place.
"On the other side, I’m really optimistic. Maybe Tyson is not ready yet. Maybe he’s is not ready mentally, maybe he’s not ready physically, whatever, I don’t know and we don’t really care.
"We want to make it happen. If he doesn’t want it, we can’t make him want it. So what can I say? The fight should happen someday."
https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/21633...ndr-usyk-deal/
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tyson v oleksandr isn't happening next is it?
Does not look like it will happen and I have to blame Tyson Fury. :(
Well usyk is making the outrageous demand of wanting a 50/50 split..... Actually you might be right...
Not many like Wladimir but he gave sultan and Haye 50/50 splits to get titles unified, these guys could learn from him
Wait Wilder fury four isn't happening is it...might as well do fury Chisora four too :S
I do not understand why Fury will not take the fight. This may be a once in a career opportunity to unify the division
against a blown up middleweight. It is a relatively easier fight than Wilder. Money does not matter to Tyson Fury and it is all about legacy for him.
What is going on with him?
1. you have truly sucked up every word Fury has said , haven't you ? If i didn't know better , i would suspect that you're a "Fury alt" account! And as for this "Blown up MW" nonsense, absolute horseshit!
2. Money is EVERYTHING to Tyson Fury. Tell me a traveller that it doesn't mean anything to?
3. He's fucking bottling it , that's what's going on. not "scared bottling it" , more "knowing he'll get beat kind of bottling it." Try getting your head out of Fury's ass and you'll see things a lot clearer.
Colour fonts? That's new from you.
For the first point I was being sarcastic and using Tyson's own words against him.
For your second point, money means everything to all people regardless of their background.
For your third point and as I have already said Fury would beat Usyk. So do not know why his delay to the fight.
Colour fonts were to make it clear for you.
Points 1 & 2, I wasn’t aware you were capable of sarcasm.
Point 3 , Usyk wins , that’s why Fury won’t sign. Skill always beats size.
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tyson wants the biggest money for the least risk & oleksandr doesn't fall into that category. oleksandr should just fight joe joyce next
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Ugh, usyk should do that but its a bit crap that fury just get usyk to clear up the fellow big men so fury doesn't need to fight them...
I say fury v Joyce next, I also know Joyce is the mandatory for usyks belt but wotever.. don't fight wilder or Chisora again fury!.
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Big "nope" from Fury. People just have to call this what it is. Annoying sure. But another month of avoidance and Fury may start growing feathers :-X. Basically, Fury along with sooo many other top fighters today...with respect and I don't get punched in the face for a living...are too fat on mediocrity. They get massive pay days for a Chisora: Episode 12 and the bar is set going forward. Legacy and magnitude be damned. Or believability for that matter. That has left me concerning Fury long ago. Expecting Usyk to take similar terms and talking outta both sides of the mouth is just taking a piss with the sport. Not to go off the rails but this imo is a side bar as to why these Dubai mega millions excursions are not good for the big picture. Fans are just fed up with the double talk and the 'key' fights falling flat.
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Bottled it.
Fury has always had an overinflated opinion of his own worth. He is not the PPV draw he thinks he is, he could not even surpass Usyk / Chisora when he fought Del boy for the 15th time. Can you imagine even someone like Wlad avoiding a smaller fighter like Haye, the way Fury has dodged Usyk and getting a free pass? Wlad never bottled it and avoided Joshua either.
The fight any man for free bullshit has worn very thin now.
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Re: What should Usyk do next?
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tyson v oleksandr isn't happening next is it?
Does not look like it will happen and I have to blame Tyson Fury. :(
Well usyk is making the outrageous demand of wanting a 50/50 split..... Actually you might be right...
Not many like Wladimir but he gave sultan and Haye 50/50 splits to get titles unified, these guys could learn from him
Wait Wilder fury four isn't happening is it...might as well do fury Chisora four too :S
I do not understand why Fury will not take the fight. This may be a once in a career opportunity to unify the division
against a blown up middleweight. It is a relatively easier fight than Wilder. Money does not matter to Tyson Fury and it is all about legacy for him.
What is going on with him?
1. you have truly sucked up every word Fury has said , haven't you ? If i didn't know better , i would suspect that you're a "Fury alt" account! And as for this "Blown up MW" nonsense, absolute horseshit!
2. Money is EVERYTHING to Tyson Fury. Tell me a traveller that it doesn't mean anything to?
3. He's fucking bottling it , that's what's going on. not "scared bottling it" , more "knowing he'll get beat kind of bottling it." Try getting your head out of Fury's ass and you'll see things a lot clearer.
Colour fonts? That's new from you.
For the first point I was being sarcastic and using Tyson's own words against him.
For your second point, money means everything to all people regardless of their background.
For your third point and as I have already said Fury would beat Usyk. So do not know why his delay to the fight.
Colour fonts were to make it clear for you.
Points 1 & 2, I wasn’t aware you were capable of sarcasm.
Point 3 , Usyk wins , that’s why Fury won’t sign. Skill always beats size.
Good big-gen beats a good small-en.
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Re: What should Usyk do next?
This fight won't happen. All bollocks