What should Usyk do next?

[Master]

tyson v oleksandr isn't happening next is it?

Does not look like it will happen and I have to blame Tyson Fury.

Well usyk is making the outrageous demand of wanting a 50/50 split..... Actually you might be right...

Not many like Wladimir but he gave sultan and Haye 50/50 splits to get titles unified, these guys could learn from him


Wait Wilder fury four isn't happening is it...might as well do fury Chisora four too :S

I do not understand why Fury will not take the fight. This may be a once in a career opportunity to unify the division against a blown up middleweight. It is a relatively easier fight than Wilder. Money does not matter to Tyson Fury and it is all about legacy for him.

What is going on with him?

1. you have truly sucked up every word Fury has said , haven't you ? If i didn't know better , i would suspect that you're a "Fury alt" account! And as for this "Blown up MW" nonsense, absolute horseshit!
2. Money is EVERYTHING to Tyson Fury. Tell me a traveller that it doesn't mean anything to?

3. He's fucking bottling it , that's what's going on. not "scared bottling it" , more "knowing he'll get beat kind of bottling it." Try getting your head out of Fury's ass and you'll see things a lot clearer.

Colour fonts? That's new from you.

For the first point I was being sarcastic and using Tyson's own words against him.

For your second point, money means everything to all people regardless of their background.

For your third point and as I have already said Fury would beat Usyk. So do not know why his delay to the fight.

[Master]

TYSON FURY has "turned down" a 60/40 to the winner deal to fight Oleksandr Usyk in April, the Ukrainian's team claim.

The duo are targeting a historic heavyweight unification bout.

The huge fight could take place on British soil at Wembley Stadium, with an April 29 date being targeted.

But Usyk's promoter Alex Krassyuk has bemoaned the demands of Fury's camp.

Speaking to talkSPORT, he said: "Frank Warren said he's got a pot and he needs to get the agreement of both parties to participate, and if the money in the pot is not enough it won’t happen.

"I completely agree with it. On our side, we have nothing more to add.

"We are not asking for a figure, we are asking for a split and probably the split doesn’t work well if someone is asking for a figure, and I can definitely say that it’s not our party.

"We have said that we want this fight to happen as much as possible and we are in the position to share whatever the fight generates.

"If it generates a lot, then we are happy to share it. If it doesn’t, it is what it is.

"But it’s all about the glory, it’s all about the legacy, it’s all about the huge thing, the fight has never happened before so we are really thirsty to make it happen.

"But boxing is a sport of two men and if only Usyk gets into the ring, there won’t be a match for undisputed. It will be shadowboxing of the unified champion.

"What can I say? We are open, we are ready to go, maybe someone wants to avoid the danger and to stay in a comfortable position. I don’t know and I really don’t care.

"If Tyson doesn’t show up, we still have the belts and we go our way."

On their exact demands, Krassyuk added: "We initially agreed for 50/50. But then Tyson was asking for some bigger money.

"So we made it clear that we are ready to go 60/40, but the winner takes 60. That was our latest offer."

Asked to clarify if Team Fury had turned that offer down, Krassyuk confirmed: "Yes, exactly."

Despite difficulties getting the deal over the line, Krassyuk remains "optimistic" that the fight will be made.

He concluded: "I am experienced and I’ve been here for a while. Normally when a fighter does not want to take a fight, he asks for something impossible so it doesn’t take place.

"On the other side, I’m really optimistic. Maybe Tyson is not ready yet. Maybe he’s is not ready mentally, maybe he’s not ready physically, whatever, I don’t know and we don’t really care.

"We want to make it happen. If he doesn’t want it, we can’t make him want it. So what can I say? The fight should happen someday."

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/21633...ndr-usyk-deal/

[Primo Carnera]

tyson v oleksandr isn't happening next is it?

Does not look like it will happen and I have to blame Tyson Fury.

Well usyk is making the outrageous demand of wanting a 50/50 split..... Actually you might be right...

Not many like Wladimir but he gave sultan and Haye 50/50 splits to get titles unified, these guys could learn from him


Wait Wilder fury four isn't happening is it...might as well do fury Chisora four too :S

I do not understand why Fury will not take the fight. This may be a once in a career opportunity to unify the division against a blown up middleweight. It is a relatively easier fight than Wilder. Money does not matter to Tyson Fury and it is all about legacy for him.

What is going on with him?

1. you have truly sucked up every word Fury has said , haven't you ? If i didn't know better , i would suspect that you're a "Fury alt" account! And as for this "Blown up MW" nonsense, absolute horseshit!
2. Money is EVERYTHING to Tyson Fury. Tell me a traveller that it doesn't mean anything to?

3. He's fucking bottling it , that's what's going on. not "scared bottling it" , more "knowing he'll get beat kind of bottling it." Try getting your head out of Fury's ass and you'll see things a lot clearer.

Colour fonts? That's new from you.

For the first point I was being sarcastic and using Tyson's own words against him.

For your second point, money means everything to all people regardless of their background.

For your third point and as I have already said Fury would beat Usyk. So do not know why his delay to the fight.

Colour fonts were to make it clear for you.
Points 1 & 2, I wasn’t aware you were capable of sarcasm.
Point 3 , Usyk wins , that’s why Fury won’t sign. Skill always beats size.

[TIC]

tyson wants the biggest money for the least risk & oleksandr doesn't fall into that category. oleksandr should just fight joe joyce next

[palmerq]

Ugh, usyk should do that but its a bit crap that fury just get usyk to clear up the fellow big men so fury doesn't need to fight them...

I say fury v Joyce next, I also know Joyce is the mandatory for usyks belt but wotever.. don't fight wilder or Chisora again fury!.

[Spicoli]

Big "nope" from Fury. People just have to call this what it is. Annoying sure. But another month of avoidance and Fury may start growing feathers . Basically, Fury along with sooo many other top fighters today...with respect and I don't get punched in the face for a living...are too fat on mediocrity. They get massive pay days for a Chisora: Episode 12 and the bar is set going forward. Legacy and magnitude be damned. Or believability for that matter. That has left me concerning Fury long ago. Expecting Usyk to take similar terms and talking outta both sides of the mouth is just taking a piss with the sport. Not to go off the rails but this imo is a side bar as to why these Dubai mega millions excursions are not good for the big picture. Fans are just fed up with the double talk and the 'key' fights falling flat.

[Beanz]

Bottled it.

Fury has always had an overinflated opinion of his own worth. He is not the PPV draw he thinks he is, he could not even surpass Usyk / Chisora when he fought Del boy for the 15th time. Can you imagine even someone like Wlad avoiding a smaller fighter like Haye, the way Fury has dodged Usyk and getting a free pass? Wlad never bottled it and avoided Joshua either.

The fight any man for free bullshit has worn very thin now.

[TitoFan]

Big "nope" from Fury. People just have to call this what it is. Annoying sure. But another month of avoidance and Fury may start growing feathers . Basically, Fury along with sooo many other top fighters today...with respect and I don't get punched in the face for a living...are too fat on mediocrity. They get massive pay days for a Chisora: Episode 12 and the bar is set going forward. Legacy and magnitude be damned. Or believability for that matter. That has left me concerning Fury long ago. Expecting Usyk to take similar terms and talking outta both sides of the mouth is just taking a piss with the sport. Not to go off the rails but this imo is a side bar as to why these Dubai mega millions excursions are not good for the big picture. Fans are just fed up with the double talk and the 'key' fights falling flat.

Pretty much why I couldn't care less about the heavyweight division. They do more talking "per capita" than all other divisions in boxing COMBINED. If I had a dollar for every "What should "X" do next?" thread... or every "What "X" said about "Y" post in social media... I'd be a multi-millionaire. There should be a graph on "talking per actual fight" somewhere that some statistical whiz could come up with. It would be hugely interesting.

[Master]

When Matchroom promoter Hearn was asked about the situation, he immediately pointed to the fact that his client, Anthony Joshua, fought Usyk twice with no issues in the negotiations.

Hearn told IFL TV: “”Anthony Joshua fought Oleksandr Usyk back-to-back, no f****** problems, no questions, no long negotiation.

“When are you guys out there going to start understanding…”

Giving his best Fury impression, Hearn continued: “‘It’s not about the money, I’ll fight him for free, as long as the tickets are free for the general public.’

“F*** off. You want money, you want too much money, you’re not the draw you think you are, that fight’s not as big as you think it is.”

Hearn went on to say: “Greed, if you are about legacy, if you want to be undisputed, then you take the fight.

“Oh so you’re going to get £50million or 60m, instead of the £80m or £100m or £125 that you asked for. F*** me, you’ve all been played for all these years.”

When asked whether he thought the Fury vs Usyk fight would actually happen, Hearn replied: “Maybe, but if you really want the fight, you have to make concessions…

“Tyson Fury is worth more than 50/50 in this fight, but if you want to be the first undisputed heavyweight world champion since Lennox Lewis then you take 50/50 and get the fight done.

“And, if he’s a little middleweight, if he’s no good, then easy money. But, he knows how good Oleksandr Usyk is…

“When are you going to f****** wake up… some people care about legacy and some people don’t care about legacy.”

https://talksport.com/sport/boxing/1...dr-usyk-fight/

[TIC]

Ugh, usyk should do that but its a bit crap that fury just get usyk to clear up the fellow big men so fury doesn't need to fight them...

I say fury v Joyce next, I also know Joyce is the mandatory for usyks belt but wotever.. don't fight wilder or Chisora again fury!.

tyson won't go near the juggernaut. there is talk of oleksandr v daniel dubois, if that has to happen first then he should face joe joyce & then filip hrgovic, cleanout the division while tyson plays with deontay & derek

[Master]

tyson v oleksandr isn't happening next is it?

Does not look like it will happen and I have to blame Tyson Fury.

Well usyk is making the outrageous demand of wanting a 50/50 split..... Actually you might be right...

Not many like Wladimir but he gave sultan and Haye 50/50 splits to get titles unified, these guys could learn from him


Wait Wilder fury four isn't happening is it...might as well do fury Chisora four too :S

I do not understand why Fury will not take the fight. This may be a once in a career opportunity to unify the division against a blown up middleweight. It is a relatively easier fight than Wilder. Money does not matter to Tyson Fury and it is all about legacy for him.

What is going on with him?

1. you have truly sucked up every word Fury has said , haven't you ? If i didn't know better , i would suspect that you're a "Fury alt" account! And as for this "Blown up MW" nonsense, absolute horseshit!
2. Money is EVERYTHING to Tyson Fury. Tell me a traveller that it doesn't mean anything to?

3. He's fucking bottling it , that's what's going on. not "scared bottling it" , more "knowing he'll get beat kind of bottling it." Try getting your head out of Fury's ass and you'll see things a lot clearer.

Colour fonts? That's new from you.

For the first point I was being sarcastic and using Tyson's own words against him.

For your second point, money means everything to all people regardless of their background.

For your third point and as I have already said Fury would beat Usyk. So do not know why his delay to the fight.

Colour fonts were to make it clear for you.
Points 1 & 2, I wasn’t aware you were capable of sarcasm.
Point 3 , Usyk wins , that’s why Fury won’t sign. Skill always beats size.

Good big-gen beats a good small-en.

[Mark TKO]

This fight won't happen. All bollocks