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I find Wilder is always cringeworthy when he talks, while Fury can come across as likeable, but I don’t care much about that. I don’t know if it’ll make any difference whether Wilder is rattled or not, because he always fights like a spaz and this fight especially wasn’t going to be any different. He will either be able to land early or he won’t.
So people are saying that Fury has lost weight ..... and it is the equivalent of an entire prime Ricky Hatton?
That must be a weigh-in Hatton, not a 'between fights' Hatton, otherwise Tyson Fury would make the bantamweight limit right now ;D
I think both are cringeworthy when they start prattling on about higher power, God and being anointed. It suggests Fury hasn't fully recovered from his mania and that Wilder was a seriously indoctrinated young child. However, in saying that, apart from the cult like leanings, they are both people you could have a pint with.Quote:
Originally Posted by p4pking
Let's set the record straight in case anyone had any doubts. Fury can talk Wilder under a table with both hands tied behind his back. Wilder is a horrible talker, and can be had by a trash-talking 5th-grader. This is why Wilder comes across as unhinged, and could very well be frustrated at how Fury gets the best of him at every face-to-face. Howeverrrrrr....... this should not be confused with saying Fury has gotten into Wilder's head. Wilder is NOT Wlad. Repeat..... NOT Wlad. Wlad let Fury get into his head and became timid. He seemed scared that Fury could take him out. He threw 4 punches a round. Wilder is definitely NOT scared of Fury. Frustrated because Fury has made him look like a fool..... absolutely. Having second thoughts about being able to beat Fury? Nah. The only chance Fury has at playing with Wilder's mind is getting Wilder so pissed off he gets even wilder (no pun intended) than usual. That, I can see.
I am not sure how he has been made to look a fool really. Wilder comes across as unhinged? And Fury doesn't? Wilder is just too nice when he could easily have run Fury down over becoming so obese he was at serious risk of a heart attack, for testing positive, for his drug use, for Fury's own lunatic rantings, he just avoided most of that and declared that he was going to eat Fury which to be fair would not be a good thing to do as he would be bound to end up with blocked up arteries himself. That was not sensible, but otherwise, it was Fury up there unable to sit down because he drank too much coffee or something.
Settles it for me then, I'm backing FuryQuote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
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Originally Posted by Gandalf
It's simple really. Some guys are good at talking and some aren't. I've seen them face-to-face and Wilder can't hold a candle to Fury talking-wise. He reverts to his "Bronze Bomber" shouts because he's left with little to say. It's nothing bad, nor is it a preclude of what's to come. I still think Fury is writing checks his ass won't be able to cash. But in talking contests it's no contest.
Fury is better at talking smack and I would agree with that. I also think when Wilder does it it seems kind of forced and not really his thing. He has to try and hype a fight and cannot do a Mike Tyson impression well. I don't think he comes across as unhinged at all though, whence me finding it all rather forced. Fury on the other hand likely is a bit unhinged and that's no criticism. I don't really regard it as a verbal competition and find these conferences more pantomime than anything else.Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanQuote:
Originally Posted by Gandalf
It's simple really. Some guys are good at talking and some aren't. I've seen them face-to-face and Wilder can't hold a candle to Fury talking-wise. He reverts to his "Bronze Bomber" shouts because he's left with little to say. It's nothing bad, nor is it a preclude of what's to come. I still think Fury is writing checks his ass won't be able to cash. But in talking contests it's no contest.
If you have done the work in the gym and are confident in your abilities then you know in yourself that is likely more than enough, especially if you are undefeated, stay in shape, and have recently proven you can fight when up against it. Fury seems the one more desperate to get under Wilder's skin whilst Wilder has simply let a lot of things slide. For instance, Fury is dressing sharper but it is just hot air really isn't it to make a song and a dance about it? Doesn't matter really and if Fury was so enamored with his clothes why the desperate need to take them all off? Couldn't that wait for the weigh in? Isn't that unhinged? Flouncing about topless at the very end of a press conference?
I hope he is going to shave some of that beard off too as you wouldn't want that rubbing in the eyes. He should have an X marked on it too to add to the pantomime. Fury is all pantomime. The most likely person to be knocked out is Fury. By his own uppercut. Wilder is a bit soft and just doesn't throw out lines that way, but if talking makes you the best then why was Malignaggi never P4P number 1? Words can only take you so far in boxing. In the real world of course it is a different story.
Miles doesn't think Wilder comes across as unhinged.
Well observed Rocco. When Wilder goes down the Broner/Mayweather/Tyson/Taylor route I will concede that he is unhinged. The odd rant about eating an opponent is rather mild all things considered.
Fury - here we have a 6'9 lumbering limbo dancing galoot with average power , he has a good engine but isn't pretty to watch.
Wilder - Fine condition , he lacks the boxing basics , however this drunken Giraffe of a fighter carries Dynamite in either hand.
This is likely to be an awful spectacle for the paying public.
It is a pickem fight for the simple reason that both have padded records bar a few name fighters.
If I had to make a pick , I will go for Wilder via 5 round KO.
By that time of the fight the referee will likely stop the fight , to save the audience from further punishment.
Miles will eventually concede to Wilder being unhinged.
I never concede. I follow them all the way to the asylum pleading their sanity.Quote:
Originally Posted by ruthless rocco
Nearly as big as my bet.Quote:
Originally Posted by smashup
This is why Wilder mentally cracked
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugc3ezFPqek