Mayweather v Mosley

Main thing I don't think people saw coming was that Mayweather after being stunned came right out and right at Shane Mosley he didn't run away he didnt spend the rest of the round on his bike. He sprouted wings and a tail and became a dragon just like Nazim said he would and came forward and started pushing Mosley back all night. I expected Mayweather to outbox Mosley, but I didn't think he would walk him down the way he did. No one has ever dominated Mosley that badly ever and i strongly think if Mayweather had decided to pressure Mosley then he would have stopped him or forced Nazim to throw in the towel

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The issue that most ignore is that boxing has virtually no valid drug testing. Other sports are more sophisticated. There are few rules in boxing; many are negotiated by the fighters

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The second part of drug bit is not really true. As far as the testing goes they pretty much all use the same testing facilities. It's only that different people collect the samples and even that is outsourced. Each state has it's own commission and their own policy on testing. Nevada had already implemented non-competition random testing where fighters would gain the most benefit from enhancers and it was even before the issue of Mayweather/Pacquiao.

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They don't even bother with blood testing !!!!!!

Major American sports leagues NFL, NBA, MLB do not do blood testing I believe.

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Originally Posted by Majesty

Main thing I don't think people saw coming was that Mayweather after being stunned came right out and right at Shane Mosley he didn't run away he didnt spend the rest of the round on his bike. He sprouted wings and a tail and became a dragon just like Nazim said he would and came forward and started pushing Mosley back all night. I expected Mayweather to outbox Mosley, but I didn't think he would walk him down the way he did. No one has ever dominated Mosley that badly ever and i strongly think if Mayweather had decided to pressure Mosley then he would have stopped him or forced Nazim to throw in the towel

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Yeah, what I started to try to write a couple different ways but didn't manage to. Floyd was aggressive, after almost getting KTFO in round 2. He didn't run away from this arguably harder puncher to win by potshots. He took the fight to Mosely and just outscored him with speed and timing. Exactly the kinds of things he is most often criticized for didn't happen here, against a welterweight, and he came forward to Mosely after getting hurt.

That shows a lot of things about Floyd's heart as well as his skill.

But it's also his skill to know that if he tried to run and fight cutsie solely from the outside against Sugar Shane, he'd probably get caught again, and it might end the fight next time. So taking it to Shane wasn't just heart, it was skill and understanding. He knew he had to go to Mosely and outbox him within Mosely's range to keep Mosely off him.

So he did. Because he could.

At least, that's how it looks to me.

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But it's also his skill to know that if he tried to run and fight cutsie solely from the outside against Sugar Shane, he'd probably get caught again, and it might end the fight next time. So taking it to Shane wasn't just heart, it was skill and understanding. He knew he had to go to Mosely and outbox him within Mosely's range to keep Mosely off him.

So he did. Because he could.

At least, that's how it looks to me.[/quote]

I think it was the last episode of 24/7... Floyd up close on the punch bag... Floyd snr 'thats where you need to be, right there.'

Mayweathers boring if he 'runs' and he's boring if he comes forward, lol. jokers.

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Originally Posted by Majesty

Main thing I don't think people saw coming was that Mayweather after being stunned came right out and right at Shane Mosley he didn't run away he didnt spend the rest of the round on his bike. He sprouted wings and a tail and became a dragon just like Nazim said he would and came forward and started pushing Mosley back all night. I expected Mayweather to outbox Mosley, but I didn't think he would walk him down the way he did. No one has ever dominated Mosley that badly ever and i strongly think if Mayweather had decided to pressure Mosley then he would have stopped him or forced Nazim to throw in the towel

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Yeah, what I started to try to write a couple different ways but didn't manage to. Floyd was aggressive, after almost getting KTFO in round 2. He didn't run away from this arguably harder puncher to win by potshots. He took the fight to Mosely and just outscored him with speed and timing. Exactly the kinds of things he is most often criticized for didn't happen here, against a welterweight, and he came forward to Mosely after getting hurt.

That shows a lot of things about Floyd's heart as well as his skill.

But it's also his skill to know that if he tried to run and fight cutsie solely from the outside against Sugar Shane, he'd probably get caught again, and it might end the fight next time. So taking it to Shane wasn't just heart, it was skill and understanding. He knew he had to go to Mosely and outbox him within Mosely's range to keep Mosely off him.

So he did. Because he could.

At least, that's how it looks to me.

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Yeah, I saw a change in Shane, after he stunned him it was almost like he thought he was gonna walk down Mayweather, fight at his pace and eventually stop him late. So when Mayweather started coming forward in the same round trying to pay him back for hurting him, I think in Mosley's mind he went "wtf!?! I just hit him with my hardest shots why is he coming forward? Why isnt he running!?!" And right there, Mayweather had that fight mentally, Nazim was completely correct when he said Floyd was a scrapper, I think he told Mosley that but Shane didn't believe it, till it was too late.

Gutted Floyd did'nt taste canvas in the 2nd but big props to Mayweather, schooled, well and truly. Shows he can be hurt though. I'd be very intrigued to know whether the Pac camp fancy the job or not now though. I don't see any other outcome than a Floyd win though.

Very impressed with Floyd last night he showed heart and a good chin when he got hurt and surprissed Shane by comming straight back at him after every shot Shane landed.

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Gutted Floyd did'nt taste canvas in the 2nd but big props to Mayweather, schooled, well and truly. Shows he can be hurt though. I'd be very intrigued to know whether the Pac camp fancy the job or not now though. I don't see any other outcome than a Floyd win though.

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Anybody can be hurt, so that wasn't new information. But it was definitely unfamiliar to see Floyd when he was hurt like that. Looked like "game over" for a few minutes.

Mosely Trainer said that he expects Floyd to turn into raging bull after he was hurt. That is exactly what happened in the fight. Mosely's Trainer has shown that he is a truth teller.

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Gutted Floyd did'nt taste canvas in the 2nd but big props to Mayweather, schooled, well and truly. Shows he can be hurt though. I'd be very intrigued to know whether the Pac camp fancy the job or not now though. I don't see any other outcome than a Floyd win though.

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Anybody can be hurt, so that wasn't new information. But it was definitely unfamiliar to see Floyd when he was hurt like that. Looked like "game over" for a few minutes.

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And the point of letting me know that was?

Some have better beards than others, that there is no doubt about. Mayweather's supreme defence aside, he shows that his beard can be tested. Ha. And tested it was. I certainly, if only for 20 - 30 secs thought it was curtains for floyd. At the higher weight against the bigger puncher, his beard will be tested again. I reckon Pac can test it for sure.

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Gutted Floyd did'nt taste canvas in the 2nd but big props to Mayweather, schooled, well and truly. Shows he can be hurt though. I'd be very intrigued to know whether the Pac camp fancy the job or not now though. I don't see any other outcome than a Floyd win though.

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Anybody can be hurt, so that wasn't new information. But it was definitely unfamiliar to see Floyd when he was hurt like that. Looked like "game over" for a few minutes.

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And the point of letting me know that was?

Some have better beards than others, that there is no doubt about. Mayweather's supreme defence aside, he shows that his beard can be tested. Ha. And tested it was. I certainly, if only for 20 - 30 secs thought it was curtains for floyd. At the higher weight against the bigger puncher, his beard will be tested again. I reckon Pac can test it for sure.

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Mosley is a massive puncher, look at the gif Pugilistic put up in the other thread, those were heavy shots, the 2nd right on the temple. He deserves a lot of credit for staying on his feet, and actually coming back at Shane like he did later in the round. It showed that even if Nazim didn't get the gameplan right, he was damn right that Floyd is a warrior underneath all that skill.

I don't even think it was a matter of Nazim's gameplan. Nazim gave perfect advice in the corner the whole fight, very clear, succinct and focused. He knew what he was doing.

Mayweather was just so much smoother then Mosley, I think it was in the 3rd where Mosley was moving his hands every which way standing in front trying to get Mayweather to react to something and Mayweather just stayed completely calm in front of him waiting for him to actually commit to a punch. He was just so much smoother and when he let off the right hand Mosley just could not catch that.

Add that to the fact that Mosley wasn't allowed to develop a rhythm moving forward and you have what you got last night. I don't think Mayweather standing his ground was a surprise at all.

My 2 cents on the fight.

1. I'm disappointed in Mosley's performance. It seemed as though he only had 2 rounds in him and was content to let the rest of the fight get away after round 2. 4th round was the only other round he showed any aggression.

2. Floyd showed a lot of guts and truly stood his ground and fought at range, didn't run, and clearly won the fight.

3. Floyd gets my respect for this fight and i'm just disappointed because of Shane's performance. Floyd won, no excuses, but I don't think Shane performed at his best and we could have had 12 rounds like the first 4 back and forth, lots of action.

I have to totally revise my thoughts on Mayweather as a Welter, he was amazing. There i said it. :mad: