Tsuyz Vs Mayweather at light welterweight?

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Originally Posted by SweetPea

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Originally Posted by Lords Gym

I think in a small ring Floyd gets smoked. Mayweather is too feather fisted to get Tszyus respect.

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at 140, I think Floyd has about as much power as Hatton. I know this has been debated a lot in other threads, and many people disagree with me, but I don't think there's that much difference.

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possible.. Its just Mayweather does not blanket a guy like Hatton does. different mind set .

its all hypothetical . cc enjoyed your read !

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Originally Posted by MV

tszyu dont beat you with speed he beats you with timing and precision. it took mayweather 4 rnds to figuer out judah and couldnt get him out of there.it took tszyu 2 rnds to figuer out judah,and when he did it was all over.but i do think that floyde might have won on points but you never know.remember tszyu has the big eraser and believes he will catch you, its only a matter of time.tszyu destroyed both mitchel and judah before floyde got to them in more impressive fashion.it would have been a heck of a fight.

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One major factor, Tszyu looks spectacular against Southpaws like Zab and Mitchell. However the right handers like Hatton or even Leija or Urkal gave him a bunch of issues. Mayweather would beat him fairly easy

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Originally Posted by Lords Gym

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Originally Posted by BoomBoom

Speed can be beat by timing and Kostya had excellent timing. He always had more trouble with pressure fighters not so much boxers. I like Kotya by close decision but it is a tough outcome to call.

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cc I agree.. nice short write-up and to the point.. :beerchug:

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Thank you sir

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Originally Posted by El Gamo

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Originally Posted by BoomBoom

Speed can be beat by timing and Kostya had excellent timing. He always had more trouble with pressure fighters not so much boxers. I like Kotya by close decision but it is a tough outcome to call.

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Excellent post,CC. The counter argument is that Floyd is super boxer,he would not have a lapse like Zab did and at 140,he had the power ot make Kostya pay. It would have been a great great fight. I'd favour lil Floyd but only slightly.

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:coolclick: back. it would have been a good fight

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Originally Posted by JT Rock

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Originally Posted by jbirdy

well obviously it would have been a totally different fight but the way floyd boxed the week after the hatton - tszyu fight (against gatti) may suggest that mayweather would have boxed very cute against tszyu and maybe earned a decision because of his speed advantage. but i dont think he would have put a dent in kostya and i also think that if hatton faught mayweather instead of tszyu on that night he would have smashed him in 2.

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:lolhaha: Thats fwockin hilarious Joe.... but April fools was 21 days ago buddy ;)

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damn you all you bunch of cunts ;D i didn't mean in 2 rounds. i meant into two pieces. meaning that he would have been all over him like a rash and basically beaten him up.

This is a fight Hatton stole from me. I was really interested on watching this fight and I was giving real changes to Tsuyz to impose his power and win the fight. But, it is hard to predict since Mayweather probably had learned the leason from Castillo I.

The Tszyu from 1999-2001 injury free and not weight drained would have at some point landed one on PBF and we will never know what would have happened. Judah dropped like a sack of potatoes and he was supposed to be faster and punch holes through Tszyu's swiss cheese defense. It didn't happen.
Styles sometimes bring you undone and Hatton had so many other advantages on that night, PBF v Tszyu in 2005 is a UD for the Pretty Boy, had he fought prime Tszyu PBF might well have ended up in the Colonel's lap at ringside. I still think it is no coincidence that PBF dodged Tszyu just as DLH and Mosley did before him. How would have PBF handled Pryor?

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Originally Posted by SalTheButcher

tszyus power is insanely overrated, and judahs is insanely underrated

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Thats bull and you know it. Name a fighter 140 and under with a more powerful right cross than Kostya Tszyu. Before KT got beat by Hatton, (who had the perfect style and gameplan to get a win over Kostya) everyone knew and would have put their houses on Kostya beating PBF, simply because Floyd stands off, anyone who stands of Kostya Tszyu gets knocked the fuck out. If he came back he'd put a cat amongst the pigeons at welterweight. Some people had Kostya Tszyu at #1 P4P and with good reason, and he was top #3 in every single corner of the boxing community, and they all thought ANYONE who gets in there with Kostya would be beaten. Then when an Englishman comes along and wins a very close but obvious would be decision, but makes the champ quit on his damn stool, he's written off, he's a fraud, he's over rated. Enough of the shit. BTW Sal I was at UFC 70 just got in I'm fucking drunk, but make sure you tune in buddy, it was awesome.

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Originally Posted by yoitsdan

Before KT got beat by Hatton, (who had the perfect style and gameplan to get a win over Kostya) everyone knew and would have put their houses on Kostya beating PBF, simply because Floyd stands off, anyone who stands of Kostya Tszyu gets knocked the F*** out.

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That's completely inaccurate. If Floyd had faced Tszyu, he would have been listed as a substantial favorite heading into the fight. Judah was a 3-to-1 favorite over Tszyu. Floyd was more accomplished than Judah, and Tszyu would have been a couple years older. The odds probably would have been closer to 5-to-1 in favor of Floyd.

5-1 I doubt it mate... like han solo said in star wars . " never tell me the odds"

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Originally Posted by Lords Gym

5-1 I doubt it mate... like han solo said in star wars . " never tell me the odds"

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Do you think Tszyu would have been favored? Because yoitsdan was saying that everyone "would have been betting their house on Tszyu"

Like I said, Judah was a 3-to-1 favorite over Tszyu.

At 140...at their primes...it would have been a tremendous fight. People are making KT to be just a power puncher. The man was a great champion...as accurate a puncher as anyone, tremendous shape, intelligent, and of course great power. Anyone who thinks this would have been an easy fight for Floyd is insane. Not saying Floyd would lose...but this would have been his toughest fight.

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Originally Posted by SweetPea

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Originally Posted by Lords Gym

5-1 I doubt it mate... like han solo said in star wars . " never tell me the odds"

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Do you think Tszyu would have been favored? Because yoitsdan was saying that everyone "would have been betting their house on Tszyu"

Like I said, Judah was a 3-to-1 favorite over Tszyu.

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you make a valid point ,, but you gotta remember Judah was supposed to be the man before Tyszu handed him his ass. 27-0 21 kos ? had some decent wins over Reggie Green. Millet, Ward , Witter.. after that sparking Kostya gave him , I think some might re-think the odds a bit on a Mayweather fight.?

.. I go back to ring size as the determining factor. Floyd is a superb boxer when he can move , I don’t think Floyd would hold up well in a small ring vs. a true natural puncher , Floyd would be forced to eat that Tszyu over hand right, and I am not so sure he would be able to digest it? Also Mayweather with his hand problems might not be able to commend the respect to keep Tszyu at bay? interesting debate for sure..

pbf be to quick
be a boring fight like him and baldomir
floyd ud

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Originally Posted by headson

pbf be to quick
be a boring fight like him and baldomir
floyd ud

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I can't see how it would have been boring? Baldomir isn't in the same class as Tszyu!
Tszyu would have stalked his prey and eventually would have caught the Pretty Boy, PBF would not have applied the pressure needed to offset Tszyu's power. PBF's style was tailor made for Tszyu.