Re: Why is Julio Ceasar Chavez Such a Loved Legend?
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Rican
Oscar is simply "Mexican American" as opposed to "Mexican." And the quitting was done when Chavez was past his prime. And though he got exposed against Whitaker, so did Oscar. And Taylor? He may have been winning on the scorecards, and the stoppage was contriversial, but he got a terrible beating and Chavez ended his career, you can say. I makle nothing of Oscar's fights with Chavez. Nothing. Simply another money making ploy by the Golden Boy.
A money making ploy?! You are stretching a bit much. What...JCC didn't make any money for that fight? Did someone put a gun to JCC's head and say fight Oscar. It goes both ways. Chavez represented Mexico and a certain generation in that fight and Oscar was the up and coming superstar. Of course Chavez was well past it by then...but it was still an "event" fight. As for Chavez's career in general...he was the epitome of the "Mexican Warrior". He was the people's champion. I personally don't rank him as Mexico's greatest fighter...but he certainly is Mexico's most popular fighter of all time.
Re: Why is Julio Ceasar Chavez Such a Loved Legend?
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CutMeMick
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Althugz
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CutMeMick
I don't know where to start off but right off the bat I can tell you that if your talking about JCC vs. Tszyu and ODLH and your talking about him quitting and getting found then CLEARLY you are not fully aware of JCCs career.
To judge JCC by those 2 fights and completely ignore and not look into the other 80 something fights he had is IMO a bit naive.
JCC represented much more then just a boxer. He represented a struggle, he represented a country.
I would strongly suggest you try and get your hands on JCCs documentary it was recently released and directed and produced by Diego Luna. You'll understand a lot more about JCC.
The fact that MTaylor outboxed the shit out of him but he fought 'til the end shows you the heart and determination that he had.
I can type here all night but you need to see more then just 4 fights to conprehend his status.
Mick, I didn't say he was found out against Oscar, I know that was him way past his best. Against Tzuyu, I take that back..That was even after Oscar. Also I wasn't 'judging' JCC on 2 fights. I think you just got a bit offended and failed to read my post properly. No worries.
I don't have a 'judgement' on JCC because like you say I havn't seen enough..i'm going by what I know of him and what I have seen. This led me to ask a few questions regarding him. Wanted to know what made him so popular. These responses are exactly what I needed to get educated on him. Is that naive? Sorry bro I won't ask questions in future ;) but either way you've helped me understand also why he is so popular so thank you.
If anyone has the link to JCC's documentary i'd like a watch.
Fair play I could have read your post different then how you intended it to be.
If I'm not mistaken when you 1st came on here you asked what were some of the best career sets you could get. I suggeseted a couple but now I suggest JCC.
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Kool, that must be one big ol' career set!
Havn't even watched my Ali one through and through yet. Been so busy with work and boxing training..hard to fit in anything else! :-\
Good suggestion though, i'll try and grab it.
This has been good learning thread for me so thanks to all that have contributed
Re: Why is Julio Ceasar Chavez Such a Loved Legend?
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Althugz
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Originally Posted by
CutMeMick
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Althugz
Mick, I didn't say he was found out against Oscar, I know that was him way past his best. Against Tzuyu, I take that back..That was even after Oscar. Also I wasn't 'judging' JCC on 2 fights. I think you just got a bit offended and failed to read my post properly. No worries.
I don't have a 'judgement' on JCC because like you say I havn't seen enough..i'm going by what I know of him and what I have seen. This led me to ask a few questions regarding him. Wanted to know what made him so popular. These responses are exactly what I needed to get educated on him. Is that naive? Sorry bro I won't ask questions in future ;) but either way you've helped me understand also why he is so popular so thank you.
If anyone has the link to JCC's documentary i'd like a watch.
Fair play I could have read your post different then how you intended it to be.
If I'm not mistaken when you 1st came on here you asked what were some of the best career sets you could get. I suggeseted a couple but now I suggest JCC.
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Kool, that must be one big ol' career set!
Havn't even watched my Ali one through and through yet. Been so busy with work and boxing training..hard to fit in anything else! :-\
Good suggestion though, i'll try and grab it.
This has been good learning thread for me so thanks to all that have contributed
Yes it is a long career set but for the most part you'll only be able to find some 90 something fights as a lot of his early stuff is hard to come by.
Good luck with that... :)
Suggestion, skip the LAST 2 Ali fights... :(
Re: Why is Julio Ceasar Chavez Such a Loved Legend?
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CutMeMick
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Originally Posted by
Althugz
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Originally Posted by
CutMeMick
Fair play I could have read your post different then how you intended it to be.
If I'm not mistaken when you 1st came on here you asked what were some of the best career sets you could get. I suggeseted a couple but now I suggest JCC.
.
Kool, that must be one big ol' career set!
Havn't even watched my Ali one through and through yet. Been so busy with work and boxing training..hard to fit in anything else! :-\
Good suggestion though, i'll try and grab it.
This has been good learning thread for me so thanks to all that have contributed
Yes it is a long career set but for the most part you'll only be able to find some 90 something fights as a lot of his early stuff is hard to come by.
Good luck with that... :)
Suggestion, skip the LAST 2 Ali fights... :(
Yeah, I probably will :eek:
That's just made me think of a new thread actually...!
