Oscar vs PBF II

I honestly don't even belive oscar belives he can win this fight. But at the end of the day if they make a boatload of cash no matter how much we all hate this idea yet still pay and watch, they are the winners no matter what. And i think that's what oscar see's. Another 24/7 some new little kinks to sucker the casual fan (like floyd sr involved etc..) I think this fight is crap but i'm not gonna hate. Shit..... wish i was in a place in life i could get paid for this type of garbage as well. Early prediction oscar throws his jab for a round or two get's countered and pot-shotted like crazy the rest of the fight will be the same as last time with floyd working even less hard this time.

I won't pay fo rthis one but I know the casino by my house is showing it so I'll be there. That's all I got left.

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Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer

I'll pity another batch of 2 million PPV buyers getting robbed again watching a boring circus fight of Oscar vs. Fraud ...

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Watch this one do HALF the PPV sale as the first.

Casual fans didn't enjoy the first one, and boxing fans aren't looking forward to the second.

No way I am contributing a cent to this fight!

The problem with this high dollar event being a chess match is that this will be the most watched boxing event of the year, and in many cases probably be the only boxing that some casual fans will see all year.
And while some of us here on the board can appreciate a good tactical bout, the general public can't. IMO this will hurt the sport as a whole more than help, sure ODLH and PBF can pad their off-shore accounts a little more, but it will definately turn off a lot of casual fans. Looking at the bigger picture at boxing as a whole I want it to do better in the publics eye and there are fights that could bring in a swarm of new fans, that would stick around to see more fights. This isn't one of those.

I only hope that the undercard has something stellar, I look forward to seeing how these two adapt after being in the ring together before there are adjustments both of them can make, but I feel I am in a small minority here, nothing new for me though.

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Originally Posted by killersheep

The problem with this high dollar event being a chess match is that this will be the most watched boxing event of the year, and in many cases probably be the only boxing that some casual fans will see all year.
And while some of us here on the board can appreciate a good tactical bout, the general public can't. IMO this will hurt the sport as a whole more than help, sure ODLH and PBF can pad their off-shore accounts a little more, but it will definately turn off a lot of casual fans. Looking at the bigger picture at boxing as a whole I want it to do better in the publics eye and there are fights that could bring in a swarm of new fans, that would stick around to see more fights. This isn't one of those.

I only hope that the undercard has something stellar, I look forward to seeing how these two adapt after being in the ring together before there are adjustments both of them can make, but I feel I am in a small minority here, nothing new for me though.

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That is EXACTLY my sentiments with this fight. It's not that I don't care to see these two fight again, hell anytime you have two fighters in the ring with as much ability between them as these two, I'll gladly watch with interest. It's just that they doll so much hype into the fight, that the casual fan expects some great action, and then don't even really know what to look for when the bell rings. It's the kind of fight that is guarenteed to attract a lot of new viewers, but almost as much guarenteed not to win them over.

I think after Oscar's Forbes fight, this upcoming bout has even less interest. (Although that might be discrediting Stevie Forbes slightly)

To most people it's a given that Floyd is gonna run through him again like a hot knife through butter so fans are getting impatient..especially with Cotto vs Mayweather being such a mouth-watering prospective match up! Bring that fight on already!

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Originally Posted by Tins06

IMO oscar took that fight i had him up by one point up. He has the tools to take it next time and im gonna be putting a decent bet on it.

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You had Oscar leading by one point when there were no point deductions, knockdowns or dominant rounds to one fighter? Strange ;)

Jus playin with ya..but I still can never fathom how some people had Oscar winning that bout. I had it 9 rounds to 3 but then again I'm a Floyd fan. Hell I'm also an Oscar fan but he came nowhere near close to winning that fight IMO. Not enough clean work.
In fact I wholeheartedly agreed with Kellerman's rant about the judging afterwards.

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Originally Posted by killersheep

The problem with this high dollar event being a chess match is that this will be the most watched boxing event of the year, and in many cases probably be the only boxing that some casual fans will see all year.
And while some of us here on the board can appreciate a good tactical bout, the general public can't. IMO this will hurt the sport as a whole more than help, sure ODLH and PBF can pad their off-shore accounts a little more, but it will definately turn off a lot of casual fans. Looking at the bigger picture at boxing as a whole I want it to do better in the publics eye and there are fights that could bring in a swarm of new fans, that would stick around to see more fights. This isn't one of those.

I only hope that the undercard has something stellar, I look forward to seeing how these two adapt after being in the ring together before there are adjustments both of them can make, but I feel I am in a small minority here, nothing new for me though.

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That is EXACTLY my sentiments with this fight. It's not that I don't care to see these two fight again, hell anytime you have two fighters in the ring with as much ability between them as these two, I'll gladly watch with interest. It's just that they doll so much hype into the fight, that the casual fan expects some great action, and then don't even really know what to look for when the bell rings. It's the kind of fight that is guarenteed to attract a lot of new viewers, but almost as much guarenteed not to win them over.

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PIss on the casual fan. The kind that thinks ODLH is a top 10 fighter. I know if I pay 50 or 60 bucks for any kind of entertainment I do a little research on it. And last year do you know what anyone with an ounce of investigation in them would have found out, "the real thrill is going to be in Vasquez/Marquez.......and its FREE." So fuck the pansy ass ESPN loving bastards.

Im sorry but it has to be said that those people who had ODLH ahead either didn't pay attention enough to ODLH's flurries missing. Or can't score fight properly or are biased not to sound rude here, but i cannot understand those people who had ODLH ahead. Stats wise it was all Mayweather by a land side and just by watching the fight ODLH was missing majority of his punches and he never really landed a clean shot or even rocked Mayweather once. Mayweather landed much more cleaner effective blows, he rocked ODLH on at least two occasions, and pretty much from a technical point of view dominated ODLH in the later rounds, now through 9 rounds it was close, but after that it was all Mayweather except the 12th round which i gave ODLH giving him the benefit of the doubt, but between 9th round and the 11th, those 3 rounds were clearly Mayweather's IMO. So for the people who had ODLH winning they must of had him well ahead after 9 rounds which i cannot fathom at all.

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Originally Posted by ICB

Im sorry but it has to be said that those people who had ODLH ahead either didn't pay attention enough to ODLH's flurries missing. Or can't score fight properly or are biased not to sound rude here, but i cannot understand those people who had ODLH ahead. Stats wise it was all Mayweather by a land side and just by watching the fight ODLH was missing majority of his punches and he never really landed a clean shot or even rocked Mayweather once. Mayweather landed much more cleaner effective blows, he rocked ODLH on at least two occasions, and pretty much from a technical point of view dominated ODLH in the later rounds, now through 9 rounds it was close, but after that it was all Mayweather except the 12th round which i gave ODLH giving him the benefit of the doubt, but between 9th round and the 11th, those 3 rounds were clearly Mayweather's IMO. So for the people who had ODLH winning they must of had him well ahead after 9 rounds which i cannot fathom at all.

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How many people have said this about having B-Hop ahead?

Tell you what i saw neither fighter landing anything much at all until about the 9th round when Mayweather came on strong but up until that point alot of the rounds could have gone either way. I had Oscar to far ahed by this point just because he was aggresing. Most of what Mayeather landed was parried from my point of veiw except maybe one or two clean blows...one clean shot dont win you a round though IMO.

Mayweather should win a much wider decision this time!

it shouldn't be a bad fight.

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Originally Posted by ICB

Im sorry but it has to be said that those people who had ODLH ahead either didn't pay attention enough to ODLH's flurries missing. Or can't score fight properly or are biased not to sound rude here, but i cannot understand those people who had ODLH ahead. Stats wise it was all Mayweather by a land side and just by watching the fight ODLH was missing majority of his punches and he never really landed a clean shot or even rocked Mayweather once. Mayweather landed much more cleaner effective blows, he rocked ODLH on at least two occasions, and pretty much from a technical point of view dominated ODLH in the later rounds, now through 9 rounds it was close, but after that it was all Mayweather except the 12th round which i gave ODLH giving him the benefit of the doubt, but between 9th round and the 11th, those 3 rounds were clearly Mayweather's IMO. So for the people who had ODLH winning they must of had him well ahead after 9 rounds which i cannot fathom at all.

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How many people have said this about having B-Hop ahead?

Tell you what i saw neither fighter landing anything much at all until about the 9th round when Mayweather came on strong but up until that point alot of the rounds could have gone either way. I had Oscar to far ahed by this point just because he was aggresing. Most of what Mayeather landed was parried from my point of veiw except maybe one or two clean blows...one clean shot dont win you a round though IMO.

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B-Hop vs Calzaghe is totally different fight, but forgetting that yes i like going with aggressive fighter. But it has to be "Effective aggression" meaning get the other fighter off his game plan, and actually landing solid punches, which i didn't see ODLH doing either of those things. Mayweather pot shotted all night and the first 9 rounds were close but no way was ODLH that far ahead after 9 rounds. At least 3 rounds through the first 9 rounds were clearly Mayweather's.

I think you need to pay a little more attention when ODLH throws his flurries, because most of ODLH's punches hit arms, shoulder, gloves. Mayweather landed the much more cleaner effective blows, and even stunned ODLH twice. Even if you had ODLH ahead after 9 rounds i can't see how you can have him anymore than 2 rounds ahead. All i know is that from technical point of view Mayweather dominated ODLH in the later rounds. And even if you had ODLH winning after 9 rounds i think the later rounds would have been more than enough to give Mayweather the nod.

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Im sorry but it has to be said that those people who had ODLH ahead either didn't pay attention enough to ODLH's flurries missing. Or can't score fight properly or are biased not to sound rude here, but i cannot understand those people who had ODLH ahead. Stats wise it was all Mayweather by a land side and just by watching the fight ODLH was missing majority of his punches and he never really landed a clean shot or even rocked Mayweather once. Mayweather landed much more cleaner effective blows, he rocked ODLH on at least two occasions, and pretty much from a technical point of view dominated ODLH in the later rounds, now through 9 rounds it was close, but after that it was all Mayweather except the 12th round which i gave ODLH giving him the benefit of the doubt, but between 9th round and the 11th, those 3 rounds were clearly Mayweather's IMO. So for the people who had ODLH winning they must of had him well ahead after 9 rounds which i cannot fathom at all.

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How many people have said this about having B-Hop ahead?

Tell you what i saw neither fighter landing anything much at all until about the 9th round when Mayweather came on strong but up until that point alot of the rounds could have gone either way. I had Oscar to far ahed by this point just because he was aggresing. Most of what Mayeather landed was parried from my point of veiw except maybe one or two clean blows...one clean shot dont win you a round though IMO.

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B-Hop vs Calzaghe is totally different fight, but forgetting that yes i like going with aggressive fighter. But it has to be "Effective aggression" meaning get the other fighter off his game plan, and actually landing solid punches, which i didn't see ODLH doing either of those things. Mayweather pot shotted all night and the first 9 rounds were close but no way was ODLH that far ahead after 9 rounds. At least 3 rounds through the first 9 rounds were clearly Mayweather's.

I think you need to pay a little more attention when ODLH throws his flurries, because most of ODLH's punches hit arms, shoulder, gloves. Mayweather landed the much more cleaner effective blows, and even stunned ODLH twice. Even if you had ODLH ahead after 9 rounds i can't see how you can have him anymore than 2 rounds ahead. All i know is that from technical point of view Mayweather dominated ODLH in the later rounds. And even if you had ODLH winning after 9 rounds i think the later rounds would have been more than enough to give Mayweather the nod.

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Alot of DLH's flurries were parried but he was atleast getting through with some shots to the body and they were clean.Mayweather maybe didn't show it but they got in. And i felt Mayweather pot shots were just bouncing off glove, Oscars great at parrying and they looked blocked to me.

I thought the shots Mayweather did land were solid, accurate and damaging.