Landing Hooks and Uppercuts from the outside.

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Originally Posted by hitmandonny

Obviuolsy you'd adjust, but what happens if yiou get into the habit of lunging and your opponent times you?

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Well if you're feinting and you opponent keeps falling for it then it's going to be mighty hard for them to do.


Also for feints to be effective you cannot use the same moves over and over again. For my style of landing a haymaker left hook you need to set up the right cross and for the right cross to be effective it helps to have a good jab....I use both always.


I like to see what works for other fighters and impliment it in my own way...I have used some Tyson-esque combinations and head movement, I have used the Klitschko's swat down on the guard....they all work pretty well

Hi,
I actually have some experience of using the hooks (not wild swings) in street fights.One thing I learned is using front half of your foot(the part ohter than the heel) as an anchor.When you throw a hook just pivot on it like crushing a peanut.This helps in making the hook centerlined i.e prevents it from degenerating into a swing also you can lead off the hook very easily which means after throwing a left jab just pivot on your left and you can produce a left hook without retracting the punching left hand.http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxingfor...cons/icon6.gif

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Originally Posted by Lyle

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Originally Posted by hitmandonny

Obviuolsy you'd adjust, but what happens if yiou get into the habit of lunging and your opponent times you?

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Well if you're feinting and you opponent keeps falling for it then it's going to be mighty hard for them to do.


Also for feints to be effective you cannot use the same moves over and over again. For my style of landing a haymaker left hook you need to set up the right cross and for the right cross to be effective it helps to have a good jab....I use both always.


I like to see what works for other fighters and impliment it in my own way...I have used some Tyson-esque combinations and head movement, I have used the Klitschko's swat down on the guard....they all work pretty well

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At the end of the day, anything can work in a ring if its implemented at the correct time. There can be a correct place/time for everything, if your mind is capable ,your body can follow. Cant think of a set situation where an outside uppercut from a distance would work in complete safety unless you were following his arm back in, or you were :rolleyes: Forrest that time facing Mayorga who stuck his chin right out and put his hands behind his back.

I learned how to throw a hook properly yesterday:)

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Originally Posted by hitmandonny

I learned how to throw a hook properly yesterday:)

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So did your rear heel face the target with your elbow down and your fist vertical ?











Only stirring ;D theres a couple of ways depending on the target isnt there?

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Originally Posted by Andre

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Originally Posted by hitmandonny

I learned how to throw a hook properly yesterday:)

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So did your rear heel face the target with your elbow down and your fist vertical ?











Only stirring ;D theres a couple of ways depending on the target isnt there?

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Not too specific-- he could've been fly fishing for all we know. ;D

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Originally Posted by Andre

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Originally Posted by hitmandonny

I learned how to throw a hook properly yesterday:)

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So did your rear heel face the target with your elbow down and your fist vertical ?
Only stirring ;D theres a couple of ways depending on the target isnt there?

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Nope:)

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Originally Posted by Chris Nagel

Not too specific-- he could've been fly fishing for all we know. ;D

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Fishing did come up actually.

I'm very happy, I've been shadowboxing it since!

That's good to hear. Can you tell us what you've been doing differently on the hook?

P.S. Has the term "improper hook" ever come to mind? Maybe something to think about when you accidentally nail someone in the balls. ;)

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Originally Posted by Chris Nagel

That's good to hear. Can you tell us what you've been doing differently on the hook?

P.S. Has the term "improper hook" ever come to mind? Maybe something to think about when you accidentally nail someone in the balls. ;)

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I've always been proud of my hook.
It's literally won me some fights and I've stopped a couple of fellas with it, but I've had it altered for me and now its so easy!

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Originally Posted by hitmandonny

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Originally Posted by Chris Nagel

That's good to hear. Can you tell us what you've been doing differently on the hook?

P.S. Has the term "improper hook" ever come to mind? Maybe something to think about when you accidentally nail someone in the balls. ;)

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I've always been proud of my hook.
It's literally won me some fights and I've stopped a couple of fellas with it, but I've had it altered for me and now its so easy!

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He is not going to tell us, he is forum fishing with his new hook;).

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Originally Posted by Andre

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Originally Posted by hitmandonny

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Originally Posted by Chris Nagel

That's good to hear. Can you tell us what you've been doing differently on the hook?

P.S. Has the term "improper hook" ever come to mind? Maybe something to think about when you accidentally nail someone in the balls. ;)

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I've always been proud of my hook.
It's literally won me some fights and I've stopped a couple of fellas with it, but I've had it altered for me and now its so easy!

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He is not going to tell us, he is forum fishing with his new hook;).

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Its not my hook, I'm merely borrowing it and employing for the rest of my boxing days:)

Donny i understand what your saying mate but im more of a counter puncher who works behind my jab, thats why i don't try and land Hooks or Uppercuts from the outside. The only real time i had to be aggressor was in my 3rd Amateur fight.

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Originally Posted by ICB

Donny i understand what your saying mate but im more of a counter puncher who works behind my jab, thats why i don't try and land Hooks or Uppercuts from the outside. The only real time i had to be aggressor was in my 3rd Amateur fight.

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I box very agresively, going backwards.
I then box fairly conservatively going forwards.
Strange isn't it?

I just find the ability to lead with a hook or uppercut can catch and opponent unaware and it can change your pattern just enough to make you seem unpredictable.

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Originally Posted by hitmandonny

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Originally Posted by ICB

Donny i understand what your saying mate but im more of a counter puncher who works behind my jab, thats why i don't try and land Hooks or Uppercuts from the outside. The only real time i had to be aggressor was in my 3rd Amateur fight.

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I just find the ability to lead with a hook or uppercut can catch and opponent unaware and it can change your pattern just enough to make you seem unpredictable.

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Catching them comming forwards can be even better,for force ,as it puts a different question in thier mind about what they did wrong as well as what you just got away with.

Your legs must be getting nice and flexable then, to be able to pull that off and continue moving safely? Do you go a touch low and then stay on the move throughout the process?
I liked the way Rjj used to go real low and counter with a reaching uppercut that could turn over as it rose into something like a "S" through the air ,like a rising cross appearing to follow an opponent who moved. I think he knew the target would go a certain way from experimenting with others reactions during sparring. I doubt he could interupt a fully committed shot and turn it into something else; but I suppose nothing is impossible for some if their feet legs and hips can be moving while something rare is thrown to back all of the movment up and still keep them out of reach.

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Originally Posted by Andre

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Originally Posted by hitmandonny

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Originally Posted by ICB

Donny i understand what your saying mate but im more of a counter puncher who works behind my jab, thats why i don't try and land Hooks or Uppercuts from the outside. The only real time i had to be aggressor was in my 3rd Amateur fight.

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I just find the ability to lead with a hook or uppercut can catch and opponent unaware and it can change your pattern just enough to make you seem unpredictable.

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Catching them comming forwards can be even better,for force ,as it puts a different question in thier mind about what they did wrong as well as what you just got away with.

Your legs must be getting nice and flexable then, to be able to pull that off and continue moving safely? Do you go a touch low and then stay on the move throughout the process?
I liked the way Rjj used to go real low and counter with a reaching uppercut that could turn over as it rose into something like a "S" through the air ,like a rising cross appearing to follow an opponent who moved. I think he knew the target would go a certain way from experimenting with others reactions during sparring. I doubt he could interupt a fully committed shot and turn it into something else; but I suppose nothing is impossible for some if their feet legs and hips can be moving while something rare is thrown to back all of the movment up and still keep them out of reach.

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Usually I throw them from or after a feint.

I'll actually take a look at some Jones Tonight!