Re: Froch isn't as willing to fight Taylor as he led us to believe...
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Originally Posted by
eagle
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Drago
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JT Rock
Your kidding right? Taylor has the better resume hands down
Froch is NOT THE CHAMP.. He is a paper alphabet title holder... You really think Taylor gives 2 shits about a fing belt?
Taylor has been in the ring with
Hopkins 2X
Wright
Pavlik 2X
Lacy
Who the F has Fraud been in there with?? Jean Pascal LOL!! You funny man
Froch needs to fight someone for chrise sakes
Hopkins 2X (lost in my opinion)
Wright (a draw)
Pavlik 2X (lost ha ha)
Lacy (everyone on this site say lacy was always crap and well overated)
not a good choice from you;D
Lets see.
Froch last 5 opponents.
Tony Dodson, not ranked in top 50 168 fighters in the world and was previously KO'd by Pierre Moreno(who?) and Albert Rybacki.
Sergey Tatevosyan
35 yr old journeyman not ranked in top 50 and had just come off a loss to a guy with 3 fights.
Robin Reid, 37 yr old ex pornstar, who was not ranked in top 40 at time of fight. Got owned by Jeff Lacy and had only had 4 fights in 5 years.
Albert Rybacki, world ranking in the 200s whose greatest win was Tony Dodson, sound familiar? 80% of his previous opponents had losing records.
Then he gets a title shot and really STEPS IT UP v Pascal who similiar to Froch had never beaten a guy in the top 30 at 168 and similiar to Froch did not deserve a title shot. Froch beats Pascal who will never be top 10 by decision. Well done Carl.
And u criticise Taylors resume. Yeah good thinking. Fanboy.
who's fan boy:confused:
Re: Froch isn't as willing to fight Taylor as he led us to believe...
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Violent Demise
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Fenster
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Kirkland Laing
After watching him go life and death with a Canadian who is possibly a little bit short of world level ability it wouldn't surprise me at all to see Froch stay at home and fight an easy mandatory to make a bit of money. Henessy has a contract with ITV, it'd be no problem at all for him to get the fight on the telly and he's had months to make a TV deal for the fight on British TV anyway, so he's clearly bullshitting.
I'm sure i read ITV wont show anymore fights in the early hours.. which obviously Froch-Taylor would be from the states.
But..
I'd be surprised if Froch didn't have one or two "gimme" defences before stepping up.
Respect to him if he makes his first defence in the challengers backyard ;)
How many more gimmes does he need? It's all he's had his whole career
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Drago
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Violent Demise
:lolhaha: He's a paper champion. He won a vacant title by beating a fringe contender. He never beat a champion for the title.
so he is the champ aint he!
Maybe of your heart. But in Boxing no he's not. Can't be a champ if you never beat one.
Maybe of your heart, ;D i aint no lover of the guy but he is champ regardless, dont slag froch off then slag WBC
Re: Froch isn't as willing to fight Taylor as he led us to believe...
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Originally Posted by
Drago
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Originally Posted by
Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by
Fenster
I'm sure i read ITV wont show anymore fights in the early hours.. which obviously Froch-Taylor would be from the states.
But.. I'd be surprised if Froch didn't have one or two "gimme" defences before stepping up.
Respect to him if he makes his first defence in the challengers backyard ;)
How many more gimmes does he need? It's all he's had his whole career
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Drago
so he is the champ aint he!
Maybe of your heart. But in Boxing no he's not. Can't be a champ if you never beat one.
Maybe of your heart, ;D i aint no lover of the guy but he is champ regardless, dont slag froch off then slag WBC
Whether its Froch's fault or the WBC's fault it dont change the fact that Froch has a belt without fighting anyone remotely good.
Shit even laughing stock of the 168 division Mundine has fought Kessler, Ottke, Soliman, Green, Echols, and Siaca.
Then u go and criticise Taylos record who love him or hate him has fought, champions, future hall of famers and dangerous punchers. He has fought atleast 7 or 8 fighters better than Frochs top opponent in Pascal.
Hopkins x 2
Wright
Pavlik x 2
Ouma
Spinks
Joppy
That is a solid resume win lose or draw, and has proven Taylor is world class.
Froch may go on to be a great champ, and i'll freely admit im wrong, but as of now he has done nothing but win a belt against a limited opponent and he didnt do that overly easy either.
There is a difference between being a beltholder, and being a champ.
Re: Froch isn't as willing to fight Taylor as he led us to believe...
For months Froch has been accusing Taylor of ducking him, when the reality is that Taylor still had a contract with HBO when he was first offered a shot at Froch for the WBC belt, and HBO had no interest in Froch.
So the fight wasn't made for tv reasons on Taylor's side.
Now it seems that Hennessy is using the tv excuse himself as a reason they haven't accepted DiBella's offer.
Anyone else see the irony here?
I wonder if Froch will start accusing himself of ducking. :rolleyes:
Re: Froch isn't as willing to fight Taylor as he led us to believe...
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Drago
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JT Rock
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Originally Posted by
Drago
froch is the champ fk taylor
Your kidding right? Taylor has the better resume hands down
Froch is NOT THE CHAMP.. He is a paper alphabet title holder... You really think Taylor gives 2 shits about a fing belt?
Taylor has been in the ring with
Hopkins 2X
Wright
Pavlik 2X
Lacy
Who the F has Fraud been in there with?? Jean Pascal LOL!! You funny man
Froch needs to fight someone for chrise sakes
Hopkins 2X (lost in my opinion)
Wright (a draw)
Pavlik 2X (lost ha ha)
Lacy (everyone on this site say lacy was always crap and well overated)
not a good choice from you;D
Your opinion of those fights doesn't matter; it matters that he took those fights, whereas the "cobra" has no marquee fights to date. Let him fight Taylor, Kessler, or even Bute and then Froch (and Froch fans) can have something to talk about.
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Froch is full of shit.
He reminds me of little pricks on forums who gob off and spout nonsense with no comupence.
Put him live on air with Taylor, Calzaghe and Kessler and ask him to repeat what hes bean saying then let the others put their case across, I doubt hed even join in, knowing he spouts absolute shit.
I reckon behind it all hes deeply jealous of what Joe has achieved because hes left it very late at his age to make as much of an impact, he'll never be a champ undefeated for 11 years now and even if he managed that theres no way hed be beating top pound for pound fighters when hes 42;D Hes having trouble beating inexperienced medocre fighters right now when hes 32 this year;D
The guys a joke and just like an annoying little brother to all the other real fighters who take real fights.
Re: Froch isn't as willing to fight Taylor as he led us to believe...
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Originally Posted by
eagle
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Originally Posted by
Drago
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Violent Demise
How many more gimmes does he need? It's all he's had his whole career
Maybe of your heart. But in Boxing no he's not. Can't be a champ if you never beat one.
Maybe of your heart, ;D i aint no lover of the guy but he is champ regardless, dont slag froch off then slag WBC
Whether its Froch's fault or the WBC's fault it dont change the fact that Froch has a belt without fighting anyone remotely good.
Shit even laughing stock of the 168 division Mundine has fought Kessler, Ottke, Soliman, Green, Echols, and Siaca.
Then u go and criticise Taylos record who love him or hate him has fought, champions, future hall of famers and dangerous punchers. He has fought atleast 7 or 8 fighters better than Frochs top opponent in Pascal.
Hopkins x 2
Wright
Pavlik x 2
Ouma
Spinks
Joppy
That is a solid resume win lose or draw, and has proven Taylor is world class.
Froch may go on to be a great champ, and i'll freely admit im wrong, but as of now he has done nothing but win a belt against a limited opponent and he didnt do that overly easy either.
There is a difference between being a beltholder, and being a champ.
yeah i hold my hands up i am basing froch winning against taylor more on gut instinct than facts, fact is taylor has met much better oposition. just never thought he was that good a champion. just shows that these titles mean fk all, ditch them all & lets get everyone fighting everyone no more mandatory or anything like that, we the fans would know who is the best then, what an ideal world that would be, oh wait MONEY MONEY MONEY thats what matters i suppose though:(
Re: Froch isn't as willing to fight Taylor as he led us to believe...
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Originally Posted by
JT Rock
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Originally Posted by
Drago
froch is the champ fk taylor
Your kidding right? Taylor has the better resume hands down
Froch is NOT THE CHAMP.. He is a paper alphabet title holder... You really think Taylor gives 2 shits about a fing belt?
Taylor has been in the ring with
Hopkins 2X
Wright
Pavlik 2X
Lacy
Who the F has Fraud been in there with?? Jean Pascal LOL!! You funny man
Froch needs to fight someone other than guys from the soup kitchen for chrise sakes
He barely won the first fight against Hopkins, lost the second.
Was lucky to get the draw against Winky who took his foot off the gas despite having the fight in the bag.
He got KTFO by Pavlik and then considering he is a 'skillful boxer' he got outboxed by a slugger over 12.
Lacy ? LMAO ! you dont brag that you beat a guy who could only muster a split win over Peter Manfredo mate !!
Re: Froch isn't as willing to fight Taylor as he led us to believe...
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Originally Posted by
Clanger
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Originally Posted by
JT Rock
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Originally Posted by
Drago
froch is the champ fk taylor
Your kidding right? Taylor has the better resume hands down
Froch is NOT THE CHAMP.. He is a paper alphabet title holder... You really think Taylor gives 2 shits about a fing belt?
Taylor has been in the ring with
Hopkins 2X
Wright
Pavlik 2X
Lacy
Who the F has Fraud been in there with?? Jean Pascal LOL!! You funny man
Froch needs to fight someone other than guys from the soup kitchen for chrise sakes
He barely won the first fight against Hopkins, lost the second.
Was lucky to get the draw against Winky who took his foot off the gas despite having the fight in the bag.
He got KTFO by Pavlik and then considering he is a 'skillful boxer' he got outboxed by a slugger over 12.
Lacy ? LMAO ! you dont brag that you beat a guy who could only muster a split win over Peter Manfredo mate !!
Lacy is till better than anyone Froch has fought. Th point I was making was that how can anyone criticise Taylors record and not Frochs? Carl has beat one guy in the top 20 and no one else in the top 40.
Taylor has proved he is competitive wtih ATGs
Re: Froch isn't as willing to fight Taylor as he led us to believe...
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Originally Posted by
Clanger
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Originally Posted by
JT Rock
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Originally Posted by
Drago
froch is the champ fk taylor
Your kidding right? Taylor has the better resume hands down
Froch is NOT THE CHAMP.. He is a paper alphabet title holder... You really think Taylor gives 2 shits about a fing belt?
Taylor has been in the ring with
Hopkins 2X
Wright
Pavlik 2X
Lacy
Who the F has Fraud been in there with?? Jean Pascal LOL!! You funny man
Froch needs to fight someone other than guys from the soup kitchen for chrise sakes
He barely won the first fight against Hopkins, lost the second.
Was lucky to get the draw against Winky who took his foot off the gas despite having the fight in the bag.
He got KTFO by Pavlik and then considering he is a 'skillful boxer' he got outboxed by a slugger over 12.
Lacy ? LMAO ! you dont brag that you beat a guy who could only muster a split win over Peter Manfredo mate !!
And Froch has done Jack Shit... Hope that helped;)
Re: Froch isn't as willing to fight Taylor as he led us to believe...
Man I can't believe that people are even arguing a case for Froch.... :rolleyes:
It's embaressing...It's got so bad that the best that Froch fans can come back with is an arguement for Taylor's ''contraversial'' victories (and a draw) over Bhop and Winky??? 2 ATG's?
Froch will never get a better offer to prove himself than Taylor! He should either take it or sit down and shut the fuck up.
