Heres a good little article on it.Quote:
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He did beat Klitchko though - ask Fenster ;D
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He did beat Klitchko though - ask Fenster ;D
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The link isn't working just type in google Pele Reid vs Vitali Klitschko, click on the first link to see it.Quote:
Originally Posted by ICBHeres a good little article on it.Quote:
Originally Posted by BIG HQuote:
Originally Posted by cpcompany
He did beat Klitchko though - ask Fenster ;D
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Yep. Fenster never lies.Quote:
Originally Posted by ICBThe link isn't working just type in google Pele Reid vs Vitali Klitschko, click on the first link to see it.Quote:
Originally Posted by ICBHeres a good little article on it.Quote:
Originally Posted by BIG H
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An eye witness account there of Vitali getting knocked unconcious by Pele Reid. Fact.
That's why it's laughable when these know-nothings say Haye can't KO Vitali :beat:
I might say Bob Sapp. You look at him and the guy's a monster. I saw some of those K-1 bouts and apart from size he had nothing. He could lay on an opponent, sap him and tap him a couple times and win. But anyone who knew how to stay away long enough could slap him around once he got tired. I remember him screaming, "I want Tyson!" Even that faded version of Tyson would have KILLED him. Sapp was too slow to touch Mike and let's be honest, Mike fought a hundred tomato cans who looked just like him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
over here Bernard Dunne is way over hyped, beat a load of nobodys then lost to a...nobody
Andy Lee was way over hyped aswell even though I think he is quite talented
Clearly you can not deny his skills.No boubt about it.But I think you sumed it up perfectly right there.Thats my point,he was riding with skills yes...but had emmence backing/buildup...and yes Hype stemming from the gold at the Olympics.I mean,who doesn't.The networks could not get to him fast enough and he was in the limelight from dayone.Clearly he was talented but could not totally meet the level of expections that his handlers and Media set for him.He was all balls in with Tito,fought like a champion...but he was done after that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent DemiseReid had fantastic skills. And a great right hand. But that eye was a liability. He was basically a one eyed fighter. For him to become a champion and beat some good fighters along the way, to me is highly impressive.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli surfs 'NawlinsHAHA...wut a Dikk.What goes around comes around potna but Im going to rise above this night;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Violent Demise
Reid skilled no doubt,slick fawka.But He rode that lone olympian hype all over the networks and burned quick.Just never did it for me,Loved his smashing on usually tough Rupa,what he did to Waaaay past it Brown is what I hold against him.You KNOW that was a mirage:fight:.It got ugly at the end with him,getting knocked around by so-so types.
A bunch of idiots like to blame Reid's handlers for rushing him in against Felix Trinidad. They think they did a poor job of handling him. But them idiots don't know shiit about Boxing. I think they did of great job of handling him. Reid was already struggling with fighters he had no business struggling with in sparring. Him losing to a lesser fighter in the ring would not be a surprise. So they took advantage of his undefeated record and title and cashed him out against Felix Trinidad. He took a beating in the fight. But he accounted himself quite well and earned a career high pay day of 2.5 million I belive. If Reid would of lost prior to facing Trinidad there was no way he would earn that much money. It was the right move.
JCC Jr. and Amir Khan currently.
To be fair.. Khan was a 17-year-old Olympic silver medalist hailing from Britain - not a place exactly overrun by worldwide boxing champions.Quote:
Originally Posted by killersheep
And he is a very talented fighter.. just has a brain malfunction when it comes to defence and unfortunately possesses one of the most fragile chins ever known to man.
you all clearly forgot Prince Nasseem Hamed
I can't think of a fighter with more undeserved hype though, the Reebok sponsorship and PPV events, surely his career thus far should not merit such things. Hatton has truely earned his PPV status through attrition, I'm not a fan, but he has fought his way to where he is. You don't see Andre Ward headlining PPV events.Quote:
Originally Posted by FensterTo be fair.. Khan was a 17-year-old Olympic silver medalist hailing from Britain - not a place exactly overrun by worldwide boxing champions.Quote:
Originally Posted by killersheep
And he is a very talented fighter.. just has a brain malfunction when it comes to defence and unfortunately possesses one of the most fragile chins ever known to man.
Audley Harrison
Enzo Maccarinelli
I agree.. it's very annoying that Khan has NOT even proven himself to be the best lightweight in the UK.Quote:
Originally Posted by killersheepI can't think of a fighter with more undeserved hype though, the Reebok sponsorship and PPV events, surely his career thus far should not merit such things. Hatton has truely earned his PPV status through attrition, I'm not a fan, but he has fought his way to where he is. You don't see Andre Ward headlining PPV events.Quote:
Originally Posted by FensterTo be fair.. Khan was a 17-year-old Olympic silver medalist hailing from Britain - not a place exactly overrun by worldwide boxing champions.Quote:
Originally Posted by killersheep
And he is a very talented fighter.. just has a brain malfunction when it comes to defence and unfortunately possesses one of the most fragile chins ever known to man.
But you have to bear in mind that Britain is tiny compared to the US.. so obviously potential world stars are far more infrequent.
If Andre Ward was British he'd be in Khan's boat.. you could bet your house on that ;)
i never liked andre ward, i hate it when a young fighter is being compared to a great so soon into their career.Quote:
Originally Posted by FensterI agree.. it's very annoying that Khan has NOT even proven himself to be the best lightweight in the UK.Quote:
Originally Posted by killersheepI can't think of a fighter with more undeserved hype though, the Reebok sponsorship and PPV events, surely his career thus far should not merit such things. Hatton has truely earned his PPV status through attrition, I'm not a fan, but he has fought his way to where he is. You don't see Andre Ward headlining PPV events.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
But you have to bear in mind that Britain is tiny compared to the US.. so obviously potential world stars are far more infrequent.
If Andre Ward was British he'd be in Khan's boat.. you could bet your house on that ;)
...let me know when it's going to be legal for David Haye to kick in a boxing match buddy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
Vitali's BOXING RECORD speaks for itself he's never been down, he's never been counted out, he has RARELY been hurt and even then only by the BIGGEST of punchers.
i know everybody has their own opinion and taste about boxing and how fighters should be. I, for one, likes a good fight. back and forth action. guzman doesnt do that. when guzman fought soto there was one time that he turned his back from soto and ran. come on man, who does that? he might have been good before but that was from mediocre fighters? his last KO was 2004. he hyped himself by sending letters to pacman too.. what a tool. even his last fight with ameth diaz was crap. he is lazy in training and it shows on how he fights. he's supposed to be a slick boxer with amazing handspeed yet his punch count is low compared to what is expected of him. he had his chance with campbell yet he blew what could have been the biggest money maker of his life.i dont think floyd sr even trains him anymore. if he is not hype then i dont know what hype is..Quote:
Originally Posted by ICBBeing disappointing of late and being a hype job is totally different, Joan Guzman is P4P one of the most skilled fighters in the world today. And he could beat anyone on any given night.Quote:
Originally Posted by josef4334
And i honestly can't see how any true fan could find watching a skilled fighter like that boring. But i guess everyone has there own tastes/opinions.
well thats just my opinion.