Re: Miguel Cotto, what if....
LOL thats how you wind Danny G up. I knew exactly what the response would be.
I was actually only joking with you Danny...no need to get all sensitive posting clips now...Ive owned you enough times for you to realise you shouldn´t mess with me ;)
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blegit
Cotto too hyped? Maybe you don't like the attention he gets because you don't like him. But when someone says too hyped that means they don't deserve the hype. Cotto deserves every bit of hype he gets if not more. He beat a lot of the tough good fighters who the average fan doesn't know instead of holding out for business names and bigger money. Like Abdullaev, Torres, Quintana, N'dou, etc. And he has the name fighters under his belt also. You don't have to be a fan of the guy but don't blind yourself to the truth as to make up your own reality. If you don't like him, so be it. Just leave it at that.
That's a damn good post. Too many times I've read how Cotto's list of opponents doesn't measure up somehow, and that is total B.S. in my opinion. Just because the guy isn't a household name, doesn't make him a bum. I've personally been to several of Cotto's fights, and have followed his career since the beginning. And sure, it's easy to say "so-and-so" was a bum after Cotto has beaten him. But in actuality, there's been very few soft opponents on his record. The first "break" I ever saw Cotto take was his fight against Gomez, and even then, there are those who would give Gomez more credit than I do.
So well said, blegit. You took the words right out of my keyboard.
:appl:
Re: Miguel Cotto, what if....
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Killa From Manila
Danny beat you to it boy, so now run off to the "Pac thongs for sale" thread. They got some new designs in I heard.
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TitoFan
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blegit
Cotto too hyped? Maybe you don't like the attention he gets because you don't like him. But when someone says too hyped that means they don't deserve the hype. Cotto deserves every bit of hype he gets if not more. He beat a lot of the tough good fighters who the average fan doesn't know instead of holding out for business names and bigger money. Like Abdullaev, Torres, Quintana, N'dou, etc. And he has the name fighters under his belt also. You don't have to be a fan of the guy but don't blind yourself to the truth as to make up your own reality. If you don't like him, so be it. Just leave it at that.
That's a damn good post. Too many times I've read how Cotto's list of opponents doesn't measure up somehow, and that is total B.S. in my opinion. Just because the guy isn't a household name, doesn't make him a bum. I've personally been to several of Cotto's fights, and have followed his career since the beginning. And sure, it's easy to say "so-and-so" was a bum after Cotto has beaten him. But in actuality, there's been very few soft opponents on his record. The first "break" I ever saw Cotto take was his fight against Gomez, and even then, there are those who would give Gomez more credit than I do.
So well said, blegit. You took the words right out of my keyboard.
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To brockton... see above.
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Killa From Manila
Danny beat you to it boy, so now run off to the "Pac thongs for sale" thread. They got some new designs in I heard.
But you gotta admit mine is better. ;)
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it would be shit if we didnt seee him again
shit like audley harrison
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leftylee
....he got knocked the fuck out ?
Oh wait....his punk ass already has :lolhaha:
you shouldn't be laughin so much cause at least it was against a fighter who was thought to be game and now under suspicion of using illegal wraps, not brutally against an old fighter who was very much passed it like your man Haye :-X
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leftylee
LOL thats how you wind Danny G up. I knew exactly what the response would be.
I was actually only joking with you Danny...no need to get all sensitive posting clips now...Ive owned you enough times for you to realise you shouldn´t mess with me ;)
you banned yourself cause you couldn't take all the Haye bashing lol so what are you talking about
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leftylee
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Killa From Manila
Danny beat you to it boy, so now run off to the "Pac thongs for sale" thread. They got some new designs in I heard.
and you'd be the first in line to watch David Haye's nude calender shoot, you'd probably volunteer to hold his fire hose if he was doing a firefighter shot :rolleyes:
3-0 ;D
and i know you're gonna try and blast me with some bullshit diss about Morales, but the only difference is Erik is a legend and Haye is about to get KTFO AGAIN!!! lol
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ElTerribleMorales
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leftylee
....he got knocked the fuck out ?
Oh wait....his punk ass already has :lolhaha:
you shouldn't be laughin so much cause at least it was against a fighter who was thought to be game and now under suspicion of using illegal wraps, not brutally against an old fighter who was very much passed it like your man Haye :-X
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leftylee
LOL thats how you wind Danny G up. I knew exactly what the response would be.
I was actually only joking with you Danny...no need to get all sensitive posting clips now...Ive owned you enough times for you to realise you shouldn´t mess with me ;)
you banned yourself cause you couldn't take all the Haye bashing lol so what are you talking about
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leftylee
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Killa From Manila
Danny beat you to it boy, so now run off to the "Pac thongs for sale" thread. They got some new designs in I heard.
and you'd be the first in line to watch David Haye's nude calender shoot, you'd probably volunteer to hold his fire hose if he was doing a firefighter shot :rolleyes:
3-0 ;D
and i know you're gonna try and blast me with some bullshit diss about Morales, but the only difference is Erik is a legend and Haye is about to get KTFO AGAIN!!! lol
He dont dare touch EL TERRIBLE.:mad:
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But in actuality, there's been very few soft opponents on his record. The first "break" I ever saw Cotto take was his fight against Gomez, and even then, there are those who would give Gomez more credit than I do
Not sure if I can really say that all his opponents are top world class champions. I see the guys in his resume and who they have beaten and they are not top world class opponents unless I am missing something. I see an old Zab Judah and a decision vs Mosley that could have gone either way. Other opponents in his resume seem to have a good record but, against who?
There seems to be an exciting list of top quality big name opponents who are young and in their prime that Cotto could face in the near future, let's see what happens.
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But in actuality, there's been very few soft opponents on his record. The first "break" I ever saw Cotto take was his fight against Gomez, and even then, there are those who would give Gomez more credit than I do
Not sure if I can really say that all his opponents are top world class champions. I see the guys in his resume and who they have beaten and they are not top world class opponents unless I am missing something. I see an old Zab Judah and a decision vs Mosley that could have gone either way. Other opponents in his resume seem to have a good record but, against who?
There seems to be an exciting list of top quality big name opponents who are young and in their prime that Cotto could face in the near future, let's see what happens.
Ricardo Torres became WBO jr.welter champ and has wins over Kendall Holt (by tko none the less) and Mike Arnaoutis
Randall Bailey is still making noise at 140
Paulie Malignaggi went on to become IBF jr.welter champ and has wins over Edner Cherry, Lovemore N'Dou and Herman Ngoudjo (who's still a threat at 140)
Demarcus Corley former champion and had tested both Judah and Mayweather before him
Carlos Quintana was undefeated and had just beaten (then undefeated) Joel Julio, he later went on to win the WBO welterweight title being the only fighter to beat Paul Williams
Victoriano Sosa went the distance with Mayweather Jr and was stopped in 4 by Cotto
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Chino
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But in actuality, there's been very few soft opponents on his record. The first "break" I ever saw Cotto take was his fight against Gomez, and even then, there are those who would give Gomez more credit than I do
Not sure if I can really say that all his opponents are top world class champions. I see the guys in his resume and who they have beaten and they are not top world class opponents unless I am missing something. I see an old Zab Judah and a decision vs Mosley that could have gone either way. Other opponents in his resume seem to have a good record but, against who?
There seems to be an exciting list of top quality big name opponents who are young and in their prime that Cotto could face in the near future, let's see what happens.
You've always questioned Cotto's list of opponents, and I've always told you why it's better than what you'd make it out to be. Again, not saying that "all his opponents are top world class champions", but... who can you say that about? And yet, Cotto HAS consistently faced good, young, tough opponents... some of whom have been avoided by other fighters. Abdullaev and Torres fall on that list. Also, Miguel was fighting guys with great records very early in his career. His resume is NOT full of guys with 0-0, or 1-10 records, as other coddled fighters are... and WELL into their careers, I might add. So we continue to disagree. You see Miguel as not having a bunch of "top world class champions" on his resume... and I see him as having as impressive a resume, if not more, than a lot of top fighters in the world today.
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Chino
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But in actuality, there's been very few soft opponents on his record. The first "break" I ever saw Cotto take was his fight against Gomez, and even then, there are those who would give Gomez more credit than I do
Not sure if I can really say that all his opponents are top world class champions. I see the guys in his resume and who they have beaten and they are not top world class opponents unless I am missing something. I see an old Zab Judah and a decision vs Mosley that could have gone either way. Other opponents in his resume seem to have a good record but, against who?
There seems to be an exciting list of top quality big name opponents who are young and in their prime that Cotto could face in the near future, let's see what happens.
You've always questioned Cotto's list of opponents, and I've always told you why it's better than what you'd make it out to be. Again, not saying that "all his opponents are top world class champions", but... who can you say that about? And yet, Cotto HAS consistently faced good, young, tough opponents... some of whom have been avoided by other fighters. Abdullaev and Torres fall on that list. Also, Miguel was fighting guys with great records very early in his career. His resume is NOT full of guys with 0-0, or 1-10 records, as other coddled fighters are... and WELL into their careers, I might add. So we continue to disagree. You see Miguel as not having a bunch of "top world class champions" on his resume... and I see him as having as impressive a resume, if not more, than a lot of top fighters in the world today.
Yup, Cotto has defeated more undefeated fighters than Floyd Mayweather Jr. did.
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Danny_G
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TitoFan
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Chino
Not sure if I can really say that all his opponents are top world class champions. I see the guys in his resume and who they have beaten and they are not top world class opponents unless I am missing something. I see an old Zab Judah and a decision vs Mosley that could have gone either way. Other opponents in his resume seem to have a good record but, against who?
There seems to be an exciting list of top quality big name opponents who are young and in their prime that Cotto could face in the near future, let's see what happens.
You've always questioned Cotto's list of opponents, and I've always told you why it's better than what you'd make it out to be. Again, not saying that "all his opponents are top world class champions", but... who can you say that about? And yet, Cotto HAS consistently faced good, young, tough opponents... some of whom have been avoided by other fighters. Abdullaev and Torres fall on that list. Also, Miguel was fighting guys with great records very early in his career. His resume is NOT full of guys with 0-0, or 1-10 records, as other coddled fighters are... and WELL into their careers, I might add. So we continue to disagree. You see Miguel as not having a bunch of "top world class champions" on his resume... and I see him as having as impressive a resume, if not more, than a lot of top fighters in the world today.
Yup, Cotto has defeated more undefeated fighters than Floyd Mayweather Jr. did.
How long was Valuev undefeated for again?
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Majesty
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TitoFan
You've always questioned Cotto's list of opponents, and I've always told you why it's better than what you'd make it out to be. Again, not saying that "all his opponents are top world class champions", but... who can you say that about? And yet, Cotto HAS consistently faced good, young, tough opponents... some of whom have been avoided by other fighters. Abdullaev and Torres fall on that list. Also, Miguel was fighting guys with great records very early in his career. His resume is NOT full of guys with 0-0, or 1-10 records, as other coddled fighters are... and WELL into their careers, I might add. So we continue to disagree. You see Miguel as not having a bunch of "top world class champions" on his resume... and I see him as having as impressive a resume, if not more, than a lot of top fighters in the world today.
Yup, Cotto has defeated more undefeated fighters than Floyd Mayweather Jr. did.
How long was Valuev undefeated for again?
And when the phuk did Cotto fight Valuev? Sit the hell down bro, whe aint talking heavy sloppy weights here.
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Danny_G
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Majesty
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Danny_G
Yup, Cotto has defeated more undefeated fighters than Floyd Mayweather Jr. did.
How long was Valuev undefeated for again?
And when the phuk did Cotto fight Valuev? Sit the hell down bro, whe aint talking heavy sloppy weights here.
I mean undefeated records don't really mean much nowadays. He's fought very good opposition but how many were undefeated doesnt mean a lot. Lovemore Ndou was better then Kelson pinto