Marquez Does Have A Few Things In His Favor

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Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer

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Originally Posted by LEGION

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Originally Posted by VanChilds

I think PBF wins a yawner. I think he does everything possible not to really engage with JMM just box and move ad nauseum on the way to an uneventful decision.

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That's kind of my exact toughts on this as well.

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When does PBF gave you an exciting fight? I slept during PBF-Baldomir and only awaken by the BOO from the crowd in the last rounds...;)

JMM is also mainly a counter-puncher so this has really a making of a boring fight...
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he was plenty entertaining against...

Hatton
Judah
Gatti
Corrales
Castillo I
Corley
Manfredy

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Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales

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Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer

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Originally Posted by LEGION

That's kind of my exact toughts on this as well.

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When does PBF gave you an exciting fight? I slept during PBF-Baldomir and only awaken by the BOO from the crowd in the last rounds...;)

JMM is also mainly a counter-puncher so this has really a making of a boring fight...
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he was plenty entertaining against...

Hatton
Judah
Gatti
Corrales
Castillo I
Corley
Manfredy

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It's entertaining coz of the opponent and PBF was forced to fire back... Took those names out and place JMM and you have 2 boxers waiting for each other on who will throw first... It's a waiting game between 2 counterpunchers...
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Originally Posted by Taeth

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Originally Posted by BoomBoom

First, I want to make it clear. I think Mayweather is too big for him and I think he sees JMM as a fight to make him look good in his return. I think Floyd will win, most likely by TKO, but don't be surprised if Marquez manages to pull out a hard-fought decision. Marquez has been active against top fighters who throw a lot of punches. He can keep a fast pace, even though he is getting up there in ring years. Im not so sure if Mayweather fight at a fast anymore. Also, JMM isnt going to be shocked by Mayweathers speed at 140. He fought faster fighters than Floyd and can deal with his speed. I dont think that will be an issue. One thing is for sure. Marquez can not be intimidated and he is confident, especially because he coming off some very big wins and a great performance against arguably the best fighter in the world. Seeing Pac have this much sucess at the higher weights can only help fuel his belief that he can beat a bigger opponent. Again, I see Mayweather winning, but an different outcome would not entirely surprise me either.

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Sorry who is faster than Floyd that he has foughten? Pacquiao is fast, but Mayweather is a little faster because he has the same handspeed, but he isn't out of position after he throws something, nor are there openings which IMO means he is taking speed off to maintain perfect coordination.

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Floyd had fast hands no question. But, look at his speed at around the weight this fight will take place and look at the speed of some of Marquez opponents in the last couple years at the weight he has fought at in the not so long ago past. Pacman at 125, Pac at 130, Chris John at 125 all at least a fast as Floyd at 140-145 based on his recent performances. Even an old Casa had comparable speed to the Floyd of today. I know many people are gonna jump on me for saying this, but Floyd is nowhere near as fast as he once was, primarily because of the weight. And of course, p4p Floyd is much faster than John but thats not relevant. Floyd is fast for his weight. Pac is one of the only fighters ive seen maintain speed as he went up. But, this isnt about him so ill get back to the point. JMM can handle his speed. Its his power, size, and style that I worry about.

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Originally Posted by Taeth

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Originally Posted by Howlin Mad Missy

Both boxers are not in their primes.

Fights to consider.

Mayweather vs ODLH (before he gassed) / vs Castillo I (several people gave that to Castillo)

JMM vs Chris John :-\

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Before OScar gassed? Mayweather was still ahead, and it was more Mayweather actually started throwing punches than just Oscar gassing. Mayweather had that plan in mind the whole time which IMO didn't allow him dominate the way he could have because when he was throwing punches, he was too quick for Oscar to retaliate.

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sorry I saw no domination or speed advantage (punch speed that is) I saw Oscar neutralise Floyd and then tank in the later rounds allowing Mayweather in the fight. If fighter A stops punching it allows fighter B to throw.
Would have been closer and equally controversial as the Mosely fights if he hadn't tanked, an issue that's become more apparent as he's got older.