Re: Do you feel bad for Clottey?
Strangely enough, I felt worse for Clottey prior to this fight. I have felt that he was one of, if not the, most avoided fighters in boxing and as such had not earned the paydays to which he was entitled. He earned the Cotto fight and IMO lost that fight by doing little to nothing in the championship rounds and not taking advantage of a one eyed fighter.
Re: Do you feel bad for Clottey?
Yeah, I felt Clottey had the moment and the edge but didn't take advantage. It was a close fight and I felt the same the Cotto Mosley fight were it could of gone either way. The only difference being that Cotto's eye was a factor in this fight.
Both fighters showed excellent chins. They took some hard shots and the respect that each gave each other was apparent by the inactivity in spots.
Re: Do you feel bad for Clottey?
Not a bit of pity from me... It was Clottey's fight to win but he let it go. Even though Cotto was battling that cut he didn't look that good.
Did anyone notice there was no ring weight announcement?
Perhaps they both weighed over 160 and the commission didn't want it broadcast?
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I agree with Stewart when he said it was Cotto's flashiness that really made him won the fight although some rounds he won really belong to Clottey. It was Cotto's fighting spirit that made people impressed. Clottey pulled a couple of ala Cintron cry baby tactics which is why I dont really feel sorry for him.
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I gotta agree with ICE.
Clottey did not know the scorecards but he did think he was well ahead if he thought he could take the last two rounds off. Whenever I thought he had Cotto in trouble, he never went in for the kill.
I said this in another thread but Clottey should've threw more right hands considering how bad Cotto's cut was. How he didn't take advantage of that is beyond me. Also, Clottey's uppercut was working too. Cotto doesn't defend against that punch all that well and Clottey didn't throw it as often as he should.
I didn't see the entire fight. I started watching at round 4 but I can't make a final decision until I see the first three.
Re: Do you feel bad for Clottey?
Yea I feel kinda bad for him. :(
Nature shorted him in the heart and Balls dept.
Re: Do you feel bad for Clottey?
I feel for Clottey, but I don't think a SD for Cotto is outrageous.
Still, the ref helped Clotty to his feet and pressured him into not quitting. If it were up to Clottey he would have squirmed around on on the canvas until they stopped it.
It's good to know the ref can help you to your feet if you slip.
Re: Do you feel bad for Clottey?
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Yea I feel kinda bad for him. :(
Nature shorted him in the heart and Balls dept.
Needed to keep his foot on the pedal didn't he... It's not good being in a close fight with one of HBO's goldenboys... especially when he's on a comeback.
Re: Do you feel bad for Clottey?
No way can you feel sorry for a "fighter" when the other fighter is badly cut "over" the left eye and can not see throughout the fight. Cotto was clearly bothered by the cut in every round and Clottey just doesn't throw enough. He is so unaggressive that I will never have any confidence in him against the top tier guys. Cotto would have boxed circles around Clottey without the cut. That cut was very bad and would have stopped the fight from continuing in many other fights but Clottey couldn't even take advantage of the obvious. He was even looking for easy ways out. Exaggerating the borderline lowblow effect, the back of the head weak punch, the slip when he fell after jumping on Cotto. Clottey is a B fighter. Lets keep it real. He lost to a badly cut Cotto from round 3 on. You can not have a fight given to you easier than that.
Re: Do you feel bad for Clottey?
Ihaven't seen the fight yet, will give it a look, analyze the whole and let you know what I personally think and I will try to do so objectively.
Re: Do you feel bad for Clottey?
I do fell sorry for him. I thought he lost by the way, just and also felt he should have done more in the final couple of rounds.
An interesting point however was that according to Compubox Clottey outlanded Cotto by 222 to 179.
Does this prove the Emmanual Stewart theory that it was the flashy shots that won him the fight?
Does it back up Clottey in his post fight interview that most of Cotto's punches were not landing and were in fact hitting his gloves.
Again my general feeling was that Cotto won by changing his style by boxing pot shotting with the odd combination. Funny how Mayweather gets slated for doing just this.
Re: Do you feel bad for Clottey?
This is one of those fights I get the feeling that if I watch it again, It could look even more Clotteys fight. He did block a lot of shots coming from Cotto. He threw the better punches, by far imo and landed at a higher percentage. He threw a little less but landed more. Im sure in his mind he did win the fight convincingly. I scored a drw, but I definately want to watch it again. Good job by Mercante jr. too. He did a good job controlling a high drama fight.
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I'm going to have to rewatch it also. The reason being, is that it seemed to me that both fighters, whenever, or atleast very often, when thry had their man trapped on the ropes and in trouble...would simple back away and let them out. Cotto would do it. I'd go wtf u doing? Clottey would do it. I'd go wtf u doing?
Anyone else see that, or did it just stand out for me how much it actually happened? I'll really have to rewatch it I guess.
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Clottey lost a close fight fair and square to a BETTER fighter. No reason to feel sorry for him.
The "robbery" merchants :beat:
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I'm going to have to rewatch it also. The reason being, is that it seemed to me that both fighters, whenever, or atleast very often, when thry had their man trapped on the ropes and in trouble...would simple back away and let them out. Cotto would do it. I'd go wtf u doing? Clottey would do it. I'd go wtf u doing?
Anyone else see that, or did it just stand out for me how much it actually happened? I'll really have to rewatch it I guess.
Clottey blocked some shots but Cotto also started to loop his hooks around the guard and shoot the right between the gloves when Clottey was on the ropes, he wasn't landing devastating shots but he was landing, a lot of Clottey's shots weren't landing either especially when Cotto played the ropes, so don't know why people are bringing up the hitting on the gloves, let's be honest here, Clottey put up a great fight but IMO he never really hurt Cotto, and if he wasn't able to capatilize against a one eyed Cotto, in a rematch i don't see him doing much better, IMO if there's a rematch and Cotto doesn't get a huge gash like the one from last night, he would most likely outbox Clottey a lot easier the second time around, honestly looked to me that Cotto was the stronger guy out there, he would push his way to get Clottey on the ropes, and even if he didn't land it all, he kept his man there, Clottey against a one eyed opponant couldn't, he put up a great effort but IMO Cotto deserved the win, like i said i had Cotto ahead by a round, could easily be 2, no way in hell by 5 points, but a 114-113 score for Cotto is no robbery