I wish Jack Johnson was alive

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Originally Posted by rjj tszyu

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Originally Posted by LEGION

Right about now I'd be happy to have a Tex Cobb or Jerry Quarry;D

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IMO Quarry is the best man never to have held the HW title.

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Agreed.

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Originally Posted by Lyle

People keep slagging off on Wladimir, what does the guy have to do to get some damn credit??? I'm not going to lay back and accept this bullcrap, you guys look at Jack Johnson and say "he's exciting", Mike Tyson said he fell asleep watching Jack Johnson fights.

Wladimir wins and wins by KO that is all

If you guys like Jack Johnson you should like Wladimir

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Yeah, Johnson was more of a slick defensive fighter, then a knockout artist.

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Originally Posted by Lyle

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Originally Posted by JazMerkin

But the thing is, and I know you'll agree with this, but David Haye IS NOT the HW division. It seems we can't discuss HWs without Haye getting mentioned, often by you, and as he hasn't done enough in the division, why do we have to mention him every time any HWs get mentioned. Wlad has earnt the right to at least be discussed in context with great HWs of the past, Haye hasn't so let's leave him out of discussions about Jack Johnson

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The only reason you guys want to compare Wlad with the greats is to bitch and moan about him so if you're thinking that reading about David Haye and how much I hate him is annoying and you want me to lay off, then I'd oblige you if the people who dislike Wladimir would stop knocking him all the time.

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I'd like you to find the post where I have b1tched & moaned about Wlad, or where I've knocked him. I have some criticisms, but I'm not one to lay into him, I give him the respect & due he deserves. However, that really is no excuse for you going on about Haye. PBF is my favourite fighter, yet I read endless threads where people slag him off about this and that, saying he's a 'pussy', however I don't then start badmouthing Cotto or Pacquiao just because those people are idiots

Well to each their own....you don't like my posts then don't read them

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Originally Posted by Lyle

Well I guess the move to heavyweight fits David Haye because he is trash....perfect match

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lol what the fuck Lyle... was anybody even talking about Haye? ???

Bit out of left field that one.

I know you love Wlad but has Haye honestly hit that nerve of yours THAT hard? ???

Not every fighter is like Mike Tyson, a swarming wrecking ball that throws caution to the wind. Obviously Wlad had some problems (got caught and stamina) when he was more agressive so he has toned down his attack. Wlad is a big guy, is not young, and doesnt have great stamina so if he goes for broke too early (and blows his load some might say) and doesnt get the guy out of there Wlad may run into some trouble. He is making millions right now, dominating the division, and fighting every top fighter there is. If you dont like it, dont watch him. I appreciate his style, and the fact that he KO's his opponents. Wlad regularly sells out large fight venues so other people enjoy his fights as well......This is by far not the worst the division has been, John Ruiz and Chris Byrd used to be top HWs..:rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by Hunter

If you dont like it, dont watch him.

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That's what people are doing... ;)

That's why HBO didn't even bother buying the fight.

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Originally Posted by AdamGB

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Originally Posted by Lyle

Well I guess the move to heavyweight fits David Haye because he is trash....perfect match

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lol what the fuck Lyle... was anybody even talking about Haye? ???

Bit out of left field that one.

I know you love Wlad but has Haye honestly hit that nerve of yours THAT hard? ???

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I think Lyle fancies Haye and dreams about him, making him feel like a traitor to the Klits and then takes it out on us lot.

Holy smoke batman I didn't realise what i was about to start. It was a fairly off hand comment really particularly regarding Jack Johnson. I guess I just had a hankering for the old days of the HW division when it seemed a lot tougher. I'm not one to bag the Klits too much but the fight really didnt do anything for me. And Lyle you are right about some of the things you say about Mr Johnson, he was in it for the $$ I guess as much as anyone. Maybe I should have said Foreman, or Marciano or Ali instead of Johnson but I still have the hankering. : )

I really do like both Klitscho brothers because they are sound technical boxers, but I can understand why people are complaining that they are not blowing away their opponents in an exciting fashion that dominant HW champs have done.

And the HW champion has always been recognized as the face of the sport.

JT Rock said it best ;)

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Originally Posted by AdamGB

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Originally Posted by Hunter

If you dont like it, dont watch him.

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That's what people are doing... ;)

That's why HBO didn't even bother buying the fight.

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Than why did ESPN pick it up? Wlad sells out fight venues all the time.

I enjoy watching Wlad dish out punishment on his opponents and wondering how much longer they can keep taking those shots. People complain that Wlad jabs his way to victory but his jab is more powerful than most HWs straight rights/lefts....Wlad has bad fights (Sultan) just like any other fighter but for me the Ruslan fight was pretty good.

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Originally Posted by Hunter

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Originally Posted by AdamGB

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Originally Posted by Hunter

If you dont like it, dont watch him.

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That's what people are doing... ;)

That's why HBO didn't even bother buying the fight.

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Than why did ESPN pick it up? Wlad sells out fight venues all the time.

I enjoy watching Wlad dish out punishment on his opponents and wondering how much longer they can keep taking those shots. People complain that Wlad jabs his way to victory but his jab is more powerful than most HWs straight rights/lefts....Wlad has bad fights (Sultan) just like any other fighter but for me the Ruslan fight was pretty good.

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Yea Espn Classic:rolleyes:

Bottom line is HBO is the premier Boxing network, if they pass on the #1 and #3 heavy fighting for the ring belt you know synchronized paint drying is more interesting than Wlad Klitschko

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Originally Posted by Hunter

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Originally Posted by AdamGB

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Originally Posted by Hunter

If you dont like it, dont watch him.

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That's what people are doing... ;)

That's why HBO didn't even bother buying the fight.

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Than why did ESPN pick it up? Wlad sells out fight venues all the time.

I enjoy watching Wlad dish out punishment on his opponents and wondering how much longer they can keep taking those shots. People complain that Wlad jabs his way to victory but his jab is more powerful than most HWs straight rights/lefts....Wlad has bad fights (Sultan) just like any other fighter but for me the Ruslan fight was pretty good.

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The heavyweight division STINKS period

You cant blame it on the klitschkos for being too good. The reason heavyweight boxing is in a rut is mainly down to countrys like the US/UK that produce the exciting, powerful guys but just arent bringing them through anymore.

Since lewis we`ve had sod all other than a brief 15minutes of fame from danny williams and the current overhyping of the showhorse that is david haye.

America hasnt produce a quality heavyweight for 15 odd years now and ive already made my thoughts on this situation many times over.

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Originally Posted by JT Rock

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Originally Posted by Hunter

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Originally Posted by AdamGB

That's what people are doing... ;)

That's why HBO didn't even bother buying the fight.

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Than why did ESPN pick it up? Wlad sells out fight venues all the time.

I enjoy watching Wlad dish out punishment on his opponents and wondering how much longer they can keep taking those shots. People complain that Wlad jabs his way to victory but his jab is more powerful than most HWs straight rights/lefts....Wlad has bad fights (Sultan) just like any other fighter but for me the Ruslan fight was pretty good.

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Yea Espn Classic:rolleyes:

Bottom line is HBO is the premier Boxing network, if they pass on the #1 and #3 heavy fighting for the ring belt you know synchronized paint drying is more interesting than Wlad Klitschko

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Arent you a big fan of Floyd Maweather? Talk about paint drying, I would rather watch Wlad than Floyd any day. at least Wald tries to fight the best fighters out there.:rolleyes: