Re: Sounds like Gatti had a lot of problems in his life
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DaxxKahn
First off Mike Marley is a tool and we all know this, second this is a tabloid article, third we don't know circumstances behind any of these so called incidents.
Then Marley is going to take a cheap shot on both Gatti and Corrales, he nis a clown and the tabloid of boxing journalist.
Even if some truth to the stories he displays little class when reporting them
no shit. the qualifications for writing about boxing must be breathing.
Re: Sounds like Gatti had a lot of problems in his life
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Spicoli
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LEGION
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Spicoli
Lost life,lost freedom...and a kid lost two parents.Sucks all the way around.Its a shame.Fooking guys not even in the ground yet!Gatti may have messed up bad and a guys past follows him...constantly.You dont abuse and hit women and you sure as shite don't commit premeditated murder
I feel like a sh#t right now; hadn't even considered the kids and the impact it will have on their life.
I'm sure he has alot of family that will step in.Whatever happens in the trial I cant see The wife being given custody but thats pretty far down the road.Kids are always left to deal with the adults BS.
the child will probably be left with one helluva trust to help deal with problems.
Re: Sounds like Gatti had a lot of problems in his life
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boozeboxer
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Spicoli
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LEGION
I feel like a sh#t right now; hadn't even considered the kids and the impact it will have on their life.
I'm sure he has alot of family that will step in.Whatever happens in the trial I cant see The wife being given custody but thats pretty far down the road.Kids are always left to deal with the adults BS.
the child will probably be left with one helluva trust to help deal with problems.
Well I'm sure that'll be a plus but I'd rather be poor and have my family than $$$ and a loss of identity; though I know what you're saying.
Re: Sounds like Gatti had a lot of problems in his life
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LEGION
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boozeboxer
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Spicoli
I'm sure he has alot of family that will step in.Whatever happens in the trial I cant see The wife being given custody but thats pretty far down the road.Kids are always left to deal with the adults BS.
the child will probably be left with one helluva trust to help deal with problems.
Well I'm sure that'll be a plus but I'd rather be poor and have my family than $$$ and a loss of identity; though I know what you're saying.
Yeah I didn't mean it would replace them, but this sort of thing happens to very poor children....that would be a really rough card. Gatti had a very lucrative last few fights on the networks.
Re: Sounds like Gatti had a lot of problems in his life
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boozeboxer
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Spicoli
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LEGION
I feel like a sh#t right now; hadn't even considered the kids and the impact it will have on their life.
I'm sure he has alot of family that will step in.Whatever happens in the trial I cant see The wife being given custody but thats pretty far down the road.Kids are always left to deal with the adults BS.
the child will probably be left with one helluva trust to help deal with problems.
He'll be alright. From what I heard Gatti was pretty smart with his money
Re: Sounds like Gatti had a lot of problems in his life
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Violent Demise
Some biitches swear up and down there guys and try to act like one. If Arturo did in fact beat her ass in the past, I'm sure she deserved it.
I hope that's a really stupid joke.
Re: Sounds like Gatti had a lot of problems in his life
I can't be bothered to reply to some people individually so I'l post it here.
You men must really hate women? No sooner as the rumours come out you start saying some women are mental & deserve to get hit...no thought that he may have been a nutter, no, it was all down to her.
For gods sake, if its true that he used to knock her about it's worse because he's a boxer, you're trained to hurt people and you're trained to be control of that aggression.
I assume we can agree that hitting anyone (outside of boxing, mma, etc) is generally considered not the thing to do?
If you're are saying it's ok to punch a woman in the face - which some of you are - is it ok to punch a kid in the face?
Most men are stronger than most women. More men hit women than women hit men. Most women are murdered by boyfriends and ex's. Those are facts.
I know one women whose husband broke her nose by bashing her face on the floor. I know someone who kicked his pregnant girlfriend about - but that was ok because kicking wasn't 'hitting'.
Women can of course be violent towards men? People relationships can be strange but if anyone starts to see signs of someone being jealous/controlling, watch your step because that added to drink can lead to a world of trouble.
If she had suffered years of abuse I can understand how she could snap and react like that.
Re: Sounds like Gatti had a lot of problems in his life
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Violent Demise
Some biitches swear up and down there guys and try to act like one. If Arturo did in fact beat her ass in the past, I'm sure she deserved it.
Gotta love VD. I assume you mean if she didn't have the household chores done?
Re: Sounds like Gatti had a lot of problems in his life
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Howlin Mad Missy
I can't be bothered to reply to some people individually so I'l post it here.
You men must really hate women? No sooner as the rumours come out you start saying some women are mental & deserve to get hit...no thought that he may have been a nutter, no, it was all down to her.
For gods sake, if its true that he used to knock her about it's worse because he's a boxer, you're trained to hurt people and you're trained to be control of that aggression.
I assume we can agree that hitting anyone (outside of boxing, mma, etc) is generally considered not the thing to do?
If you're are saying it's ok to punch a woman in the face - which some of you are - is it ok to punch a kid in the face?
Most men are stronger than most women. More men hit women than women hit men. Most women are murdered by boyfriends and ex's. Those are facts.
I know one women whose husband broke her nose by bashing her face on the floor. I know someone who kicked his pregnant girlfriend about - but that was ok because kicking wasn't 'hitting'.
Women can of course be violent towards men? People relationships can be strange but if anyone starts to see signs of someone being jealous/controlling, watch your step because that added to drink can lead to a world of trouble.
If she had suffered years of abuse I can understand how she could snap and react like that.
Seriously though, it doesn't justify murder. Reports suggest it was calculated too. I see where you are coming from, but there are better ways of dealing with it. She could have pretty much ruined her own life if she did this.
Re: Sounds like Gatti had a lot of problems in his life
It's never okay to hit a woman, but likewise it's never okay to hit a man either. We don't know the ins and outs of Gattis relationship with his wife, but it would seem that it was volatile.
If he did indeed hit her then it is her responsibility to get out of the relationship. To turn around and kill him like that is just plain wrong though. That is if what we are hearing does indeed turn out to be true.
There is no excuse for violence. If she was enduring his abuse for some time then bigger fool her for not getting out of it and using legal means to do so.
There are NO excuses for this kind of behaviour.
Re: Sounds like Gatti had a lot of problems in his life
premeditation is something I have issues with. You're not dealing with someone in a 'normal' state of mind.
There have been many cases of abuse where the woman has struck back several hours after an episode of violence & that's what people have trouble understanding, if they were in the middle of a row, he hit her and she picked up a knife and stabbed him people would say ok it was wrong but y'know in the heat of the moment/she was defending herself....
People aren't thinking straight lots of people are mentally in something similar to shock. Many don't remember what they thought, what they did or even why they did it.
...& it continues, it was her fault she got hit she should have left.
Thankfully many of you don't understand because you've not had to deal with domestic violence.
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If Gatti did abuse her, of course that is wrong, but it still doesn't justify premeditated murder.
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I think the planning is a huge part of the thought process my friend years ago suffered violent abuse for 9 years 3 kids later, many hospital stays and advise to leave him from her friends, she thought the only way out was for her to kill him she never did but was always planning to on a daily basis.
In this case we dont know how she or for that matter he suffered as some women are more violent then men i guess it will all come out when it goes to trial.
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generalbulldog
If Gatti did abuse her, of course that is wrong, but it still doesn't justify premeditated murder.
The problem is the legal definition of premediation & psychological definition don't really match up...it's why so many serial killers end up on death row rather than in mental hospitals which is where I think they should be.
Re: Sounds like Gatti had a lot of problems in his life
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Howlin Mad Missy
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generalbulldog
If Gatti did abuse her, of course that is wrong, but it still doesn't justify premeditated murder.
The problem is the legal definition of premediation & psychological definition don't really match up...it's why so many serial killers end up on death row rather than in mental hospitals which is where I think they should be.
I'm with you up until the mental institution thing. I think they should just be made into fertilizer;D Though I guess studying them might in the long run help to detect those tendencies young; for whatever good that might do.