Re: Great fighters who cant take a punch!
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markb018
Joe Calzaghe
Disagree with that 1. If he couldnt take a punch he wouldnt have stayed undefeated and won every fight he ever had
Re: Great fighters who cant take a punch!
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GAME
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markb018
Joe Calzaghe
Disagree with that 1. If he couldnt take a punch he wouldnt have stayed undefeated and won every fight he ever had
I just credit him being undefeated to being a great boxer and not leaving England till later in his career, but thats a different debate. Doesn't change the fact of Joe being knocked down a bit
Re: Great fighters who cant take a punch!
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AdamGB
as soon as I read the thread title I knew people would be starting with the Lennox lewis nonsense...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIRShCBKwng
He's a heavyweight for god's sake... yes he has two KO losses but if a 220 pound man hits anybody clean on the chin and they don't see it coming then they will get knocked out.
The two shots that got him were pretty massive. The glass jaw chin is basically a story/fallacy spread about him by people who haven't seen much, if any of his fights besides:
a) The Tyson fight
b) The Knockouts
Bruno hit him with some MASSIVE punches.
As for Roy Jones Junior, that's debatable... who had
decent punch resistance... tarver caught him right on the button with a massive punch he didn't see coming, again - if a light heavyweight hits you flush then you'll know about it.
The Johnson knock out was the result of a sustained beating.
I don't think Roy had a great chin or anything but it is underrated to say the least.
and Lewis' chin is ridiculously underrated.
Well said, Lennox has actually been in fights where he took massive shots and stood up to them....In the Tua fight he took big shots and stayed upright
The Bruno fight is another
Roy is another fighter it is hard to judge because it was not until after the return trip from HW and combined with age before he was starched
Re: Great fighters who cant take a punch!
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DaxxKahn
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AdamGB
as soon as I read the thread title I knew people would be starting with the Lennox lewis nonsense...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIRShCBKwng
He's a heavyweight for god's sake... yes he has two KO losses but if a 220 pound man hits anybody clean on the chin and they don't see it coming then they will get knocked out.
The two shots that got him were pretty massive. The glass jaw chin is basically a story/fallacy spread about him by people who haven't seen much, if any of his fights besides:
a) The Tyson fight
b) The Knockouts
Bruno hit him with some MASSIVE punches.
As for Roy Jones Junior, that's debatable... who had
decent punch resistance... tarver caught him right on the button with a massive punch he didn't see coming, again - if a light heavyweight hits you flush then you'll know about it.
The Johnson knock out was the result of a sustained beating.
I don't think Roy had a great chin or anything but it is underrated to say the least.
and Lewis' chin is ridiculously underrated.
Well said, Lennox has actually been in fights where he took massive shots and stood up to them....In the Tua fight he took big shots and stayed upright
The Bruno fight is another
Roy is another fighter it is hard to judge because it was not until after the return trip from HW and combined with age before he was starched
I actually think the Gary Mason fight is his most underrated one, Gary Mason could hit really hard. And he hit Lennox Lewis with plenty of flush shots, and gave him a good argument. But that eye of Gary Mason's was horrendous, i think Memphis once told me. He was there ringside, and he heard Gary Mason "Yelp". As the final blow hit him right in his swollen eye.
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Lyle
Frank Bruno
Donovan Rudduck
Michael Moorer
Frank Bruno wasn't chinny it's just he lacked survival instinct, he took bombs off massive punchers like Lennox Lewis without going down. And Razor Ruddock chinny ?
I don't think so he had a broken jaw against Mike Tyson and still went 12 rounds, aswell as surviving a war against a big puncher like Boncrusher Smith.
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"Hurricane" Peter McNeeley
Re: Great fighters who cant take a punch!
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Hulk
"Hurricane" Peter McNeeley
;D.Hey,he tried vs Tyson.
Re: Great fighters who cant take a punch!
I think some people are missing the point here, this thread means "great fighters". Not any boxer who had a weak chin ;D
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ICB
I think some people are missing the point here, this thread means "great fighters". Not any boxer who had a weak chin ;D
Jeremy Williams :dontknow: :shinner:
I think its the 'great'.Always gets a bit dicey....much easier to call out chins made of dry match sticks;D
Re: Great fighters who cant take a punch!
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ICB
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ElTerribleMorales
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kingfrnk
why tito?
Trinidad like Corrales was only really KO'd once, and that in Corrales case was against Castillo, the Mayweather TKO and Casamayor TKO especially were basically cause of damage done, he wasn't SERIOUSLY hurt against Floyd
but Trinidad was dropped a hell of a lot of times
Campas
Carr
Vargas
Hopkins
Mayorga
Jones Jr
all dropped him, and i know there are more, just can't think of em
Well i don't count the Roy Jones Jr fight, i don't know why you would either to be honest bro. I've seen all of those fights you mentioned, and i think the Mayorga, Campas, knockdowns were flash knockdowns. The Carr, Vargas, knockdowns were more heavy knockdowns. And the Hopkins one was after he got beat up for 11 rounds,
But i think out of all the ones there, only really one of those knockdowns affected him. And that was the Vargas knockdown, and obviously the Hopkins one. He was also knocked down by David Reid and a few other times early in his career. But again i don't feel he was hurt by any of them. I don't think Felix Trinidad's chin was that bad to be honest.
I think that he was the kind of fighter, that took a few rounds to get going and warmed up. Which is why he was floored early and not late on, infact i think he was only floored three times after the 6th round, twice by Roy Jones, which i don't count. Because that was at Light Heavyweight, and Felix Trinidad was badly ring rusty. And the only other time was against Bernard Hopkins, after taking a sustained beating.
Yeah... I would've answered the same as Ice. Tito's early knockdowns were pretty much flash knockdowns, probably more a problem with Tito's balance than anything else. He rarely looked really hurt or stunned by them. On the contrary, he usually got up and finished off the offender.
Against Hopkins, Tito was beaten to the punch consistently throughout the whole fight. So when the TKO finally came, it was more an accumulation of Hopkins' punches, than anything having to do with a weak chin.
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Spicoli
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Hulk
"Hurricane" Peter McNeeley
;D.Hey,he tried vs Tyson.
Yeah he did fight bravely against Tyson. Went right after him.
Unfortunately he was KO'd even quicker by fucking Butterbean...
Useless trivia for ya:
McNeeley's Father fought and was KO'd by Cus D'amato trained Floyd Patterson.
Re: Great fighters who cant take a punch!
As far as I am concerned, the greatest jaw ever: The Cuban HAwk, Kid Gavilan, more than 143 fights, never got knocked out, never got knocked down, how incredible is that?