Re: Assault In The Ring on HBO last night
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Originally Posted by
LEGION
I was tired of all the sympathy Resto got because he's a "broken man"; fukk him and Lewis. Yeah Resto finally came clean, lol ok, but only when he had the transcripts from taped conversations put in front of him.
He's only sorry because he got caught, like most people who do sh#t things and get caught for it and then cry for forgiveness. He's real, real sorry but not because he feels for what he did to Collins, just that he got found out and ruined his own career. He says he thinks about that fight every night; I bet he does. They probably would have all laughed it up that fateful night, how fukked up Collins was and ending his undeafeated career, had those gloves not been found out; all a big joke hahaha. Too bad they were too stupid about it.
Lewis should have never been allowed in a gym again, not just banning from cornr work. In a way I feel for Resto because if he wouldn't have gone along with it then Panama might have dumped him and his already journeyman career would have probably been over; but he could have taken the right path and instead chose to play along. But he served his time so whatever; I still don't feel sorry for him that much.
And I don't believe a bit of it about the plaster, seemed like he was just trying to add more onto his story just to shift more focus to Panama. I don't see how Collins would have never made it through that fight with padding taken out AND plaster in the gloves; his face would have been broken to bits and a bloody pulp imo.
The both of them can suffer more for all I care.
Uhmm wasn't his face destroyed and never the same again? And Collins wife saying he had catract's and blind spots. I can feel your anger and we may never know the entire story but once they brought up how there was side bets going on with the cubans wanting Resto to win. Hey man who's to say they didn't approach Resto and say "We are going to do this and there is nothing you can do about it". OF course we don't know this but shit anything is possible. Resto did do a shitty thing and it was attempted murder him being a veteran at that time. At least let the man be he did a shitty thing and he apologized for it and he does seem very sincere.
Re: Assault In The Ring on HBO last night
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Hulk
All the people who have no sympathy for Resto I can see where you are coming from.
But it was over 25 years ago and he is not the same human being he was then that he is now.
He's 53 fuckin years old now for God sakes and poverty stricken.
Have none of you ever drove your cars drunk?
What if you would have killed somebody?
So then 25 years later if you are a broken destitute mess then there should be no mercy or sympathy for you?
Obviously what Resto did is much worse than drinkin and driving but still.
Sure the young street thug who did that to Collins deserves no mercy, but the 53 year old Grandfather of today, well excuse me for having a little sympathy for him.
The man is a broken mess and obviously not a criminal mastermind by any stretch of the imagination.
He's an uneducated poor kid from the Bronx who fucked up and did a terrible thing.
But he's an old man now.
53 is not old! I resemble that comment! :banghead:
Re: Assault In The Ring on HBO last night
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Originally Posted by
The Fightfan
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Originally Posted by
LEGION
I was tired of all the sympathy Resto got because he's a "broken man"; fukk him and Lewis. Yeah Resto finally came clean, lol ok, but only when he had the transcripts from taped conversations put in front of him.
He's only sorry because he got caught, like most people who do sh#t things and get caught for it and then cry for forgiveness. He's real, real sorry but not because he feels for what he did to Collins, just that he got found out and ruined his own career. He says he thinks about that fight every night; I bet he does. They probably would have all laughed it up that fateful night, how fukked up Collins was and ending his undeafeated career, had those gloves not been found out; all a big joke hahaha. Too bad they were too stupid about it.
Lewis should have never been allowed in a gym again, not just banning from cornr work. In a way I feel for Resto because if he wouldn't have gone along with it then Panama might have dumped him and his already journeyman career would have probably been over; but he could have taken the right path and instead chose to play along. But he served his time so whatever; I still don't feel sorry for him that much.
And I don't believe a bit of it about the plaster, seemed like he was just trying to add more onto his story just to shift more focus to Panama. I don't see how Collins would have never made it through that fight with padding taken out AND plaster in the gloves; his face would have been broken to bits and a bloody pulp imo.
The both of them can suffer more for all I care.
Uhmm wasn't his face destroyed and never the same again? And Collins wife saying he had catract's and blind spots. I can feel your anger and we may never know the entire story but once they brought up how there was side bets going on with the cubans wanting Resto to win. Hey man who's to say they didn't approach Resto and say "We are going to do this and there is nothing you can do about it". OF course we don't know this but shit anything is possible. Resto did do a shitty thing and it was attempted murder him being a veteran at that time. At least let the man be he did a shitty thing and he apologized for it and he does seem very sincere.
Yeah man his face was a fukkin mess, no doubt. I'm just saying, and maybe people on here who know better than me can help, that I would think without padding it's bad enough and would cause all that damage alone; but plaster too? I'd of thought his face would be cracked open and teeth missing etc. I'm not saying the damage wasn't extensive; just that it would have looked like a pipe bomb went off. It's just my opinion, help me out dude.
Either way bro'; that whole "oh by the way, he put plaster on as well as taking the padding out" seemed forced and spur of the moment; IMO. If he was trying to make Lewis look more despicable he also made himself look the same.
Re: Assault In The Ring on HBO last night
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Originally Posted by
The Fightfan
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Originally Posted by
LEGION
I was tired of all the sympathy Resto got because he's a "broken man"; fukk him and Lewis. Yeah Resto finally came clean, lol ok, but only when he had the transcripts from taped conversations put in front of him.
He's only sorry because he got caught, like most people who do sh#t things and get caught for it and then cry for forgiveness. He's real, real sorry but not because he feels for what he did to Collins, just that he got found out and ruined his own career. He says he thinks about that fight every night; I bet he does. They probably would have all laughed it up that fateful night, how fukked up Collins was and ending his undeafeated career, had those gloves not been found out; all a big joke hahaha. Too bad they were too stupid about it.
Lewis should have never been allowed in a gym again, not just banning from cornr work. In a way I feel for Resto because if he wouldn't have gone along with it then Panama might have dumped him and his already journeyman career would have probably been over; but he could have taken the right path and instead chose to play along. But he served his time so whatever; I still don't feel sorry for him that much.
And I don't believe a bit of it about the plaster, seemed like he was just trying to add more onto his story just to shift more focus to Panama. I don't see how Collins would have never made it through that fight with padding taken out AND plaster in the gloves; his face would have been broken to bits and a bloody pulp imo.
The both of them can suffer more for all I care.
Uhmm wasn't his face destroyed and never the same again? And Collins wife saying he had catract's and blind spots. I can feel your anger and we may never know the entire story but once they brought up how there was side bets going on with the cubans wanting Resto to win. Hey man who's to say they didn't approach Resto and say "We are going to do this and there is nothing you can do about it". OF course we don't know this but shit anything is possible.
Resto did do a shitty thing and it was attempted murder him being a veteran at that time. At least let the man be he did a shitty thing and he apologized for it and he does seem very sincere.
Yeah man; he did his time, state time and more. I don't wish bad on him; just saying my way isn't to feel bad for him if more does come his way.
Hell in a way I do feel for him being a goat for Lewis and maybe being coerced into the whole thing, fearing his career would be taken if he didn't go along. We all make mistakes, so I'm not trying to ride the morality train while pissing on everyone; just you gotta' wonder how sorry he is and what he's sorry for: hurting Billy or hurting his career? I suppose as we get older we tend to live with regret, if we have any sort of soul, so maybe he is truly sorry for hurting Billy; who knows?
I wish him well; but if he gets worse I won't give a sh#t. Sorry if that bothers people here.
Re: Assault In The Ring on HBO last night
Re: Assault In The Ring on HBO last night
Diane, are you a female? I need to know so I don't come across as faggy-:gay5:
Re: Assault In The Ring on HBO last night
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holmcall
Diane, are you a female? I need to know so I don't come across as faggy-:gay5:
LOL - Yes I am.
Although, there are a couple pathetic turds here that seem to believe that I don't exist, and that I'm just an alt account for Danny G, who is a guy.
But those with a brain, a soul, and a heart, knows that's not true. ;) ;D
Re: Assault In The Ring on HBO last night
Re: Assault In The Ring on HBO last night
Re: Assault In The Ring on HBO last night
To say resto didn't know is complete bs. did you see the worried look on resto's face when billy collins father started saying 'there's something wrong with the gloves'. He knew all along. he even waved lewis over because he knew he had been caught.
Re: Assault In The Ring on HBO last night
I watched it lastnight and had the instant need to take a scolding hot shower with bleach.
Re: Assault In The Ring on HBO last night
Hopefully someone makes/finds a copy of this soon for us non-HBO people. I want to see it, but also, kind of don't. This part of the sport has slowly began killing a respect I once had for it before seeing it's sleazy underbelly.
Re: Assault In The Ring on HBO last night
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Youngblood
Hopefully someone makes/finds a copy of this soon for us non-HBO people. I want to see it, but also, kind of don't. This part of the sport has slowly began killing a respect I once had for it before seeing it's sleazy underbelly.
Tbe link is posted 3 post before yours. i'm watching it now. It's the full video. i think phil posted it.
Re: Assault In The Ring on HBO last night
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Originally Posted by
Youngblood
Hopefully someone makes/finds a copy of this soon for us non-HBO people. I want to see it, but also, kind of don't. This part of the sport has slowly began killing a respect I once had for it before seeing it's sleazy underbelly.
Sleazy is right!
Re: Assault In The Ring on HBO last night
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Originally Posted by
awdleyfuturehalloffamer
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Originally Posted by
Youngblood
Hopefully someone makes/finds a copy of this soon for us non-HBO people. I want to see it, but also, kind of don't. This part of the sport has slowly began killing a respect I once had for it before seeing it's sleazy underbelly.
Tbe link is posted 3 post before yours. i'm watching it now. It's the full video. i think phil posted it.
D'oh. Thanks. I got rerouted to a youtube 2 min version avoiding the exe. file somehow. Got it working now.